The Patriots also make trades because they're pretty bad at drafting. One thing I will give them credit is finding reasonably priced guys that they can plug and play into their system. They also aren't afraid to trade talented guys they'd more likely lose as UFAs. Yet honestly without Brady or Belichick I don't think anyone buy into the Patriots philosophy. As those two are easily best at their respective positions and what make the Patriots elite.Originally Posted by sudzy
They are a little more valuable now, because they can be traded. Extra late-round picks can come in handy if you want to move up.
Also, they are extra chances, and since the draft is really a lottery they have the potential to pay off big. After all, Tom Brady was selected with a compensatory pick.
Who's to say that Mr. Beane and McDermott won't.
It sucks that we didn't have a compensatory draft pick until the 7th round in 2000. Can you imagine if the Bills had a chance to draft Tom Brady??
Ryan Davis does not cancel out Gilmore. The formula is based, among other things, on the contract that the free agent signed. The Bills are paying Davis a lot less than Gilmore, Davis was an undrafted free agent who bounced around the league while Gilmore was a former #1 pick. If each was the only FA signed & lost by the Bills, the Bills would still be getting a comp pick for Gilmore. Below is a good article on comp picks. After you read it, you might understand why Ryan Davis by himself won't cancel out Gilmore.
From article:
As the NFL explains, compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lose more or better compensatory free agents than they acquire. The number of picks a team can receive equals the net loss of compensatory free agents, up to a maximum of four. Compensatory free agents are determined by a secret formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. Not every free agent lost or signed is covered by the formula.
Although the formula has never been revealed, by studying the compensatory picks that have been awarded since they began in 1994, I’ve determined that the primary factor in the value of the picks awarded is the average annual value of the contract the player signed with his new team, with an adjustment for playing time and a smaller adjustment for postseason honors
https://overthecap.com/the-basics-an...y-draft-picks/
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Yes a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. My point is historically unless it is a third round comp and even those how often do comp picks turn out to be anything. Now that you can trade them they do have more value I understand that. That said I would assume an UFA to have more of an impact than a comp pick.
Until we get a QB and a long time coach and GM who can install their vision and system we will see this pattern.
They are extra draft picks, and can be valuable because you get extra shots at getting good players. How is that not valuable? There have been a lot of good players who were comp picks, like Brian Dawkins, Hines Ward, Larry Allen, La'Roi Glover, Marques Colston, Matt Hasselbeck, Antoine Bethea, Pierre Garcon, Mike Vrabel, Josh Sitton, Edwin Mulitalo, Yeremiah Bell, etc. The Bills drafted Jonas Jennings with a comp pick. They should always be a consideration in free agency, for a smart team.
Actual Ryan Davis could cancel out Steppin Gilmore.
The contract of Gilmore is not considered, UNLESS the Bills have a NET loss of FAs.
By signing Davis, we don't have a NET loss. Therefore Gilmore is cancelled out.
Gilmore's contract would come into play if we signed fewer FAs.
....I know it is a confusing rule. But the thing to remember is contracts, etc. play NO PART unless you sign fewer than you lose.
Yes Ginger, good post.
Smart teams at least consider the potential of getting a comp pick when thinking of signing a UFA.
I would definitely take a 3rd round comp pick in next year's draft.
This year some of the 3rd round comp picks were:
Tankersley, Cordrea, CB
Williams, Chad, WR
Douglas, Rasul, CB
Hendrickson, Trey, OLB
Smith, Jonnu, TE
I would take anyone of those guys. Especially Rasul Douglas, CB West Virginia. I think he has a shot.
Due to roster re-building, courtesy of the latest coaching changes, we probably won't have any comp picks in 2019 either. Once you get a good team put together, then you can start nit-picking about comp picks, until then......
Today LaGarrette Blount was signed by another team, so the Patriots might get a comp pick for losing him in Free Agency.
This was pure Belicheat. He just recently floated Blount out there under an obscure rule that apparently only Belicheat bothered to read in the rule book.
Just read this somewhere but lost the link.....
Buffalo: They loaded up on low-level CFAs to give them a lost/gained difference of -2–five CFAs lost, seven CFAs gained. Five of those seven signed CFAs (Stephen Hauschka, Patrick DiMarco, Andre Holmes, Vladimir Ducasse and Ryan Harris) are currently projected to be valued as 7th rounders in the compensatory formula. If the Bills cut three of those five players before Week 10 (thus getting positive in their ratio), they would pick up a 3rd round comp pick for Stephon Gilmore. If they cut four of the five, they would also pick up a 4th round comp pick for Robert Woods. Only the Bills can decide for themselves if cutting this many veterans is worth picking up draft picks next year. Buffalo could also get some help if former Bills Justin Hunter, Robert Blanton, and EJ Manuel play a high enough number of non-special teams snaps to qualify for the compensatory formula. However, that’s not a hope they should place in high regard since it’s out of their control.
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Who the hell is Ryan Harris?
OL who just retired from the Steelers earlier in the year. Whaley must have signed him so he could retire as a Bill even though he never played for the Bills.
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