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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    While I think it's certainly fair to point out that Boldin is not the player he used to be, it seems reasonable to me that he saw the events in Charlottesville as a call to action. Anybody with even a shred of ill will towards Anquan for fighting the good fight needs to choke on their white hood.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    You and I both are well aware that FJ's leadership is not the sole factor for this team's won-loss record over that time period.
    Well, clearly it's not as important as having the physical talent. A team full of coaches and leaders won't get you anywhere if they can't play at this level.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    Don't overestimate Joe's awareness. He thinks veteran players have no intangible benefits to the locker room because that's what coaches are for.
    Oh man, I didn't realize Fred Jackson was an brilliant as the great TJ Yates. If I'd have know that Fred Jackson could bring such knowledgeable tidbit as:

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    "Don't worry about your timing being off in the preseason. If you know you're doing what Coach says, if you know your timing is right, don't compensate for the receivers. They'll get their timing right or they'll be off the team. Do your job correctly, and the rest will come."
    ...or be able to explain such a complex scenario as...

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    Say you're a rookie QB in the NFL. Say you're more talented than the receivers you're currently playing with. Say you're out of sync with them on various timing patterns. You might instinctively believe that you're doing the right thing by compensating for their timing by adjusting yours, even though your timing is where the coaches want it. Sometimes it takes a veteran who has seen the pitfalls of covering up for your teammates' bad habits to explain those pitfalls.
    Why didn't you say something! Someone get Freddie back here to explain some of the most basic information possible to some of the best football players in the world!

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    Oh man, I didn't realize Fred Jackson was an brilliant as the great TJ Yates. If I'd have know that Fred Jackson could bring such knowledgeable tidbit as:



    ...or be able to explain such a complex scenario as...



    Why didn't you say something! Someone get Freddie back here to explain some of the most basic information possible to some of the best football players in the world!
    I love how these posts were attacked from both sides. You claim they're generic and obvious, Skoob told me they were needlessly introspective. You can't both be right.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    I love how these posts were attacked from both sides. You claim they're generic and obvious, Skoob told me they were needlessly introspective. You can't both be right.
    If you think either of the examples you provided are useful in today's NFL, then you're a bigger idiot than even I thought. I didn't think that was possible.

    Do you have anymore brilliant examples of how Yates can provide an insight that our QB coach can't?

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    If you think either of the examples you provided are useful in today's NFL, then you're a bigger idiot than even I thought. I didn't think that was possible.

    Do you have anymore brilliant examples of how Yates can provide an insight that our QB coach can't?
    There are countless hypothetical examples I could provide, but you won't accept a single one. Neither of us knows specifically what insight the coaches do or do not possess. Unless I'm mistaken, we agree that last year's staff was a bunch of incompetent clowns. What makes you particularly confident that the guys who hired them got it right this time? I know I'm hopeful that they did, but you're completely taking for granted the possibility that we have ****ty, stupid coaches.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Maybe Yates can teach Peterman the secret of sticking around the NFL for years when you aren't a very good player...

    Of course we don't want Peterman to learn these types of things...

    Lots and lots of QBs could probably have had more career longevity if they were forced to start so many games early in their career.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    While I think it's certainly fair to point out that Boldin is not the player he used to be, it seems reasonable to me that he saw the events in Charlottesville as a call to action. Anybody with even a shred of ill will towards Anquan for fighting the good fight needs to choke on their white hood.
    http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffal...alo_bills.html

    Anquan Boldin says he retired because of Charlottesville, not Buffalo Bills

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Maybe we'll be able to find someone after final cuts????

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffal...alo_bills.html

    Anquan Boldin says he retired because of Charlottesville, not Buffalo Bills
    That and being warned of being cut, so why should he have stayed ?

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    There are countless hypothetical examples I could provide, but you won't accept a single one.
    Because they're all crap.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    Neither of us knows specifically what insight the coaches do or do not possess. Unless I'm mistaken, we agree that last year's staff was a bunch of incompetent clowns. What makes you particularly confident that the guys who hired them got it right this time? I know I'm hopeful that they did, but you're completely taking for granted the possibility that we have ****ty, stupid coaches.
    That was my original question that started this whole thing. I asked if our coaches were so bad that we couldn't develop a QB without the help of TJ 'the mastermind' Yates. Can you remember that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    Is that not what coaches are for? Do we have any of those?? Are they that bad that we can't develop a young quarterback without TJ friggin' Yates on this team???
    If our coaches are terrible, then we've got bigger problems. TJ Yates is not going to be the difference between developing a NFL caliber QB and a scrub who'll be out of the league in 3 years.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post

    If our coaches are terrible, then we've got bigger problems. TJ Yates is not going to be the difference between developing a NFL caliber QB and a scrub who'll be out of the league in 3 years.
    Where did I say otherwise? Remember, my contention in the thread you DESPERATELY want to prove me wrong about was purely that he has enough value not to cut in the middle of preseason. You realize that's a thing teams don't have to do anymore, right? The only cut is the cut to 53.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    Where did I say otherwise? Remember, my contention in the thread you DESPERATELY want to prove me wrong about was purely that he has enough value not to cut in the middle of preseason. You realize that's a thing teams don't have to do anymore, right? The only cut is the cut to 53.
    TJ Yates and his 1 on 1 mentoring sessions with Peterman are worth nothing. Cut him.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    TJ Yates and his 1 on 1 mentoring sessions with Peterman are worth nothing. Cut him.
    What universe do you live in that you think aggressively impulsive roster decisions build championship-caliber teams?

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    What universe do you live in that you think aggressively impulsive roster decisions build championship-caliber teams?
    No championship caliber team has ever cut their 3rd string QB during the preseason?

    What universe do you live in that you think TJ Yates would be a valuable contributor to a championship team?

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post

    What universe do you live in that you think TJ Yates would be a valuable contributor to a championship team?
    If you're not going to at least TRY to use things I've actually said as the foundation for your responses, I'm going to be forced to assume you enjoy being ridiculed.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    If you're not going to at least TRY to use things I've actually said as the foundation for your responses, I'm going to be forced to assume you enjoy being ridiculed.
    Pats cut Matt Flynn in mid-August, 2015

    https://www.patspulpit.com/2015/8/10...ack-matt-flynn

    Pats trade Ryan Mallett on August 31st, 2014

    http://www.espn.com/boston/nfl/story...houston-texans

    Pats cut Brian Hoyer on August 31st, 2012

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...b-brian-hoyer/

    The Falcons cut their 2015 2nd string QB on August 27, 2016.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-fal...ck-last-season

    Then they cut Matt Simms a week later on Sept 3, 2016

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...cuts/89830242/



    It took me all of 10 minutes to find real world examples that throw your argument right in the trash where it belongs.

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    Pats cut Matt Flynn in mid-August, 2015

    https://www.patspulpit.com/2015/8/10...ack-matt-flynn

    Pats trade Ryan Mallett on August 31st, 2014

    http://www.espn.com/boston/nfl/story...houston-texans

    Pats cut Brian Hoyer on August 31st, 2012

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...b-brian-hoyer/

    The Falcons cut their 2015 2nd string QB on August 27, 2016.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-fal...ck-last-season

    Then they cut Matt Simms a week later on Sept 3, 2016

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...cuts/89830242/



    It took me all of 10 minutes to find real world examples that throw your argument right in the trash where it belongs.


    You are such a ****ing idiot. I'm legitimately embarrassed for you, now.

    Matt Flynn was cut because he was injured.

    Ryan Mallett was TRADED, not cut.

    Hoyer, Renfree, and Simms were all cut at roster deadlines.

    Not a single one of those examples is the same as cutting Yates out of the blue. Be honest, did you even bother to read a single one of those links before posting?

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post


    You are such a ****ing idiot. I'm legitimately embarrassed for you, now.

    Matt Flynn was cut because he was injured.

    Ryan Mallett was TRADED, not cut.

    Hoyer, Renfree, and Simms were all cut at roster deadlines.

    Not a single one of those examples is the same as cutting Yates out of the blue. Be honest, did you even bother to read a single one of those links before posting?
    Cutting a worthless QB when you find out he's worthless is out of the blue?

    You must be a bigger moron than everyone thought. You said that cutting Yates would be an 'aggressively impulsive roster decision' that championship caliber teams do. It's a list of 3rd string QBs who were cut/traded (cuz it's the same thing, as you lose the 'valuable' mentoring ability) around this time, which is something you said championship caliber teams don't do. You're a big dumb dummy, you big dumb dummy.

    You act like cutting Yates today is so much different than cutting him in 2 weeks. It's the same thing, anyone who's not a big dumb dummy would know that.

    But hey, that's 2 more weeks for Yates to tell Peterman more about how you have 4 downs to gain 10 yards, or that getting sacked is bad, or how when the play clock reaches 0 it's a delay a game, or how he should put his pants on 1 leg at a time.

    Any other words of wisdom Yates could tell Peterman?

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    Re: Anquan Boldin retiring

    Do you even have a point anymore besides making yourself look stupid?

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