Pretty simple, did we draft any hall of fame talented players from 2000 until now?
Marshawn had HOF talent, but he's a piece of **** human being. He won't get in.
Dareus also had HOF talent, but he got paid and he was done.
Lynch has a shot, along with Jason Peters, that's about it. Kyle never got the notoriety early in his career, hell of a player though.
Edit: If being a piece of **** kept players out of the HoF....
Last edited by kingJofNYC; 08-21-2017 at 02:27 PM.
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If they do, they're not going in as Bills. I think the organization should be talking about how to salvage our historical image during the drought- that is, how we view it as a snapshot of the franchise. If I'm Russ Brandon, I make a push to (obviously) sign Fred Jackson to a 1-day contract so he retires as a Bill and then (not as obviously) retire #22. It's a good PR move to reward a guy who is one of the most beloved Bills of the post-SuperBowl era.
Going to make it into the hall is the deal, it's voted on by the press so you can simply forget about Marshawn Lynch. Peters might but what success did he ever really have, so I doubt it. Did we go almost 20 years without one standout player ?? It's all really hitting home, we haven't been ran properly for a long time.
Peters was undrafted. I think we signed him off of the Giants practice squad.
Marshawn is probably my favorite Bill that we've drafted in this span, but his stats right now are nothing compared to LT who just got in. I think he needs a couple more big seasons to have a chance.
The only other player that might have a shot is Ko Simpson.
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So you think Peters might get into the HoF but question his success, how does that make sense?
I know we didn't outright draft Peters, and I was going to put that caveat in my original post, but we did sign him as UDFA and then too a risk in cutting him only to bring him back and groom him into one of the best the LTs in football. He's getting into the HoF, no question.
Do agree that Lynch doesn't have the big time stats, but he has some of the biggest post season runs, the guy has great tape and even though the media hates doing interviews with him I'm sure they all love his game. He could have used a couple of more seasons with big numbers, sat out almost two years (1 due to injury mostly).
But we've had some really good players, unfortunately you can't win when you get rid of them or don't foster more development.
Pat Williams, Winfield, Fletcher, Spikes, Lynch, Peters, Jabari Greer were all good players. Many of them played in big games when they left Buffalo, some of them won superbowls. How many Hall of Famers did last year's Patriots team have? 1? It's a team game, you need some studs, but it never hurts to have above average football players. We had some studs, but they never stick around or never had talent added around them. Kyle Williams isn't going to throw and catch touchdowns, neither is Freddie or Marshawn.
Last edited by kingJofNYC; 08-21-2017 at 03:04 PM.
Kiko and the Polish windshield will get in.
You could go all the way back to 1989 and the answer will still be zero. Thurman Thomas was drafted in 1988. There hasn't been a HOF player drafted since. I think Eric Moulds had the talent, but wasted too many years playing on crappy teams with crappy qb's. I think Sam Cowart could have had the talent too, but a ruptured achilles ruined his career. Ruben Brown made a bunch of probowls, but he's not one of the greatest players ever.
00-Brian Urlacher, Tom Brady
01-LT, Steve Hutchinson, Reggie Wayne, Drew Brees
02-Julius Peppers, Dwight Freeney, Ed Reed
03-Terrell Suggs, Troy Polamalu, Jason Witten, Anquan Boldin
04-Eli Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Vince Wilfork
05-Demarcus Ware, Aaron Rodgers, Frank Gore
06-Mario Williams, Haloti Ngata, Nick Mangold
07-Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Darrelle Revis, Steve Smith
08-Matt Ryan, Jonathon Stewart
09-Lesean McCoy
There's 10 years worth, it actually gets difficult around then because guys this decade just haven't had the time to build a resume. Considering there are three, maybe four in every draft (and IMO I'm being generous) I don't think it's really that big of a deal that Buffalo hasn't drafted any and they certainly aren't the only NFL team in that boat.
Historically speaking, especially starting with the Super Bowl era drafts, there just aren't that many and more than 4 or 5 from one draft class is by the exception, not the rule.
http://www.profootballhof.com/heroes...by-draft-year/
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#56 DARRYL TALLEY #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS
Only two games even have a shot and that is Lynch and Kyle.
I'm sorry, but if Jonathan Stewart is a potential HoF, then Lynch is already in. Check the numbers, Stewart can't hold Marshawn's jock.
Peterson not on the list either. Makes me sick thinking Mario Williams has a better chance than Kyle, I know who I'm going to war with, and so do most NFL coaches.
Last edited by kingJofNYC; 08-21-2017 at 03:18 PM.
I think Lynch will get in and Peters & Big Pat should get in... but idk if we can count them because 1) they left 2) Peters & Williams were UDFA
When was Antoine Winfield drafted? 1999? He has a shot. Maybe Kyle.
Nothing surefire :'(
And I don't think it's because there were not any who could have done it... more the lack of success and leadership ruining anyone in this building from reaching their true potential (individually and collectively).
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Sorry, I can't resist:
Sammy Watkins