Who more at fault for this play's failure ??

[Skooby]

I haven't put a user on ignore in my 15 plus years here. I've now put 2 idiots on ignore in the past 2 weeks. Congrats guys.

They're making me look like the G-damn genius of posting, complete stupidity.

[Joe Fo Sho]

I haven't put a user on ignore in my 15 plus years here. I've now put 2 idiots on ignore in the past 2 weeks. Congrats guys.

[ICRockets]

I come here to talk about the Bills, this is the only forum I frequent. I could not possibly care less about anyone's views on any topic that isn't NFL related. I barely think you guys as real people.

Just so you know who you're getting in bed with. This dude is legit unhinged.

does our Establishment's deliberate policy of abolishing the existence of the white race constitute an unspeakable crime against future generations?

[Wally The Barber]

Was a strong wind from the north carrying the ball southward. while turning his body west his body weight gushed east causing a pass catching difficulty.

I won't place any real blame here.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Just so you know who you're getting in bed with. This dude is legit unhinged.

I have to get in bed with this guy now??

Sheesh, all I did was like a post of his where he complained about you. I didn't realize that would cause such a strongly perceived emotional bond towards him.

[daryls61]

I think Jones ran the route wrong. Should ran more towards end zone and open space instead of sideline.

[DraftBoy]

Per former Bills WR Donald Jones:

"When you're running that route, you get taught to run the ball high...Tyrod is thinking Zay is going to, but the quarterback will throw you late if he needs to be."

I believe, that D. Jones is basically saying that Z. Jones broke the route flat toward the boundary when he needed to keep it high.

[Mr. Pink]

With little time left on the clock most plays are designed to go toward the sideline.

Zay is running a route that would have literally taken him to the pylon or just short of it.

The pass was thrown back towards the middle of the field and back towards the safety, proper placement of that pass is on the outside where Zay was looking to begin with and furthest from any defensive resistance.

A throw to the outside there is a TD.

[Turf]

After watching the replay again it was Taylors fault.

[ICRockets]

Per former Bills WR Donald Jones:

"When you're running that route, you get taught to run the ball high...Tyrod is thinking Zay is going to, but the quarterback will throw you late if he needs to be."

I believe, that D. Jones is basically saying that Z. Jones broke the route flat toward the boundary when he needed to keep it high.

Yeah, I have no idea what anybody who blames Tyrod on that play is thinking. You can believe he's a a stinking garbage heap under center and still acknowledge errors made by his teammates.

[ICRockets]

Zay is running a route that would have literally taken him to the pylon or just short of it.

Keep watching it, man. This is just flat-out empirically untrue. The route he is running takes him out of bounds around the 4 yard line.

[Mr. Pink]

Anyone who doesn't blame Tyrod on that throw simply doesn't understand football or watch what real football teams actually do.

You throw away from defenders.

You throw towards the sideline in the 2 minute offense.

You throw towards the way the receiver is looking.

That QB failed on all 3 of those.

Could Zay have still come down with the pass? Yes. But if that throw is in the proper place, the Bills win that game yesterday.

[senseofdoom]

Keep watching it, man. This is just flat-out empirically untrue. The route he is running takes him out of bounds around the 4 yard line.

Even if his route was taking him out of bounds 2 yards deep in the end zone that pass would've still been behind him. Granted he probably would've been able to adjust to it but let's not pretend that was an accurate throw.

[ICRockets]

Even if his route was taking him out of bounds 2 yards deep in the end zone that pass would've still been behind him. Granted he probably would've been able to adjust to it but let's not pretend that was an accurate throw.

I mean, this is Tyrod we're talking about, so accuracy doesn't really enter the equation. For all we know, he was trying to throw it where you guys wanted him to.

That said, it's absolutely insane to me that you guys watched that entire game and still insist that TT had any business throwing to the outside shoulder. He consistently overthrew receivers when trying to do so. Several passes soared harmlessly out of bounds that way.

[senseofdoom]

I mean, this is Tyrod we're talking about, so accuracy doesn't really enter the equation. For all we know, he was trying to throw it where you guys wanted him to.

That said, it's absolutely insane to me that you guys watched that entire game and still insist that TT had any business throwing to the outside shoulder. He consistently overthrew receivers when trying to do so. Several passes soared harmlessly out of bounds that way.

I feel like a lot of those throws are wide because he's so deathly afraid of a turnover that he's erring on the side of caution.

[ICRockets]

I feel like a lot of those throws are wide because he's so deathly afraid of a turnover that he's erring on the side of caution.

Yep. There's a serious mental block there. It's infuriating to watch.

[kishoph]

Anyone who doesn't blame Tyrod on that throw simply doesn't understand football or watch what real football teams actually do.

You throw away from defenders.

You throw towards the sideline in the 2 minute offense.

You throw towards the way the receiver is looking.

That QB failed on all 3 of those.

Could Zay have still come down with the pass? Yes. But if that throw is in the proper place, the Bills win that game yesterday.

Exactly. Was Jones suppose to adjust his route to go back into the safety ? The Bills have run that corner route (to the outside) many times with Taylor the past 2 years. Not only have we've seen Taylor throw that corner route, but if you watch the video Jones runs the most basic corner route with the fake inside then break out to the corner. It's insulting to hear these apologist try to insist that Taylor didn't blow that throw. I guess on the pass a couple plays earlier if Jones would of adjusted his route to go 3 yards out of bounds, he would of caught that one too, stupid rookie.

[ICRockets]

Exactly. Was Jones suppose to adjust his route to go back into the safety ?

Nope. He just needs to take a slightly different angle so that he's running toward the pylon instead of toward the 4 yard line.

[Mr. Pink]

Nope. He just needs to take a slightly different angle so that he's running toward the pylon instead of toward the 4 yard line.

And what does that get the Bills?

That just places Zay 4 yards deeper than he was and the pass is still thrown to the wrong shoulder and behind him.

[ICRockets]

And what does that get the Bills?

That just places Zay 4 yards deeper than he was and the pass is still thrown to the wrong shoulder and behind him.

No it doesn't. It just puts him on a slightly shallower angle and actually puts him in pretty much perfect position to catch that ball in stride.