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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cali512 View Post
    First off if you ever seen the opposition, that's billsimpossible so I've lost any impact of his posts as true feeling. Second taking his post if actually true feeling is dumb AF. So just because we wear red white and blue,if we didn't protest (half the league didn't), we would be America's team. I take the protesters as way more American than people that don't because suppressing protesting is what the anti civil rights people did, the protesters are asking for equality, that's it
    Equality? Most NFL players cash a check in 1 week that is worth more than most Americans make in a year.

    Equality my ass, those who kneel are complete hypocrites.

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    The Pegulas should stick to drilling wells. They suck at running sports franchises.
    No one cares.

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal View Post
    The NFL went along with the PC crap until they (finally) realized it was hurting their bottom line. They have Trump to thank for taking the role of the jerk and letting them know why their ratings and attendance were down and how to fix it. If the players know what's good for them, they'll go back to standing for the Anthem andd start protesting real issues facing their people, on their own time.
    You DO know that players didn't start appearing on field for the anthem until 2009, right?

    That was also the same time the NFL(and some of its teams, INCLUDING BUFFALO)started taking money from the Defense Department for those displays of patriotism that are now commonplace.
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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal View Post
    No one cares.
    You cared enough to comment.

    So who's the idiot now, hmmm?

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    The collective bargaining agreement explicitly defines the club owners as 'employers' and the players as 'employees'.
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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by ckg927 View Post
    You DO know that players didn't start appearing on field for the anthem until 2009, right?

    That was also the same time the NFL(and some of its teams, INCLUDING BUFFALO)started taking money from the Defense Department for those displays of patriotism that are now commonplace.
    I could have swore that Bud Grant had national anthem drills for his Vikings and that the Bills of the 90s stood on the sideline during the anthem. I think it was left up to the teams before 09 but in that year the DOD started paid for patriotism

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby View Post
    I could have swore that Bud Grant had national anthem drills for his Vikings and that the Bills of the 90s stood on the sideline during the anthem. I think it was left up to the teams before 09 but in that year the DOD started paid for patriotism
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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by ckg927 View Post
    You DO know that players didn't start appearing on field for the anthem until 2009, right?

    That was also the same time the NFL(and some of its teams, INCLUDING BUFFALO)started taking money from the Defense Department for those displays of patriotism that are now commonplace.
    Quote Originally Posted by ckg927 View Post
    You cared enough to comment.

    So who's the idiot now, hmmm?
    Considering your first post above, obviously you. What 2009 has to do with 2016 is anyone's guess!

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    The Buffalo Bills are the only team in the NFL that wear the Red, White and Blue colors so prominent as the US Flag.

    The Patriots and Giants don the Colors in minimal fashion, but they're nothing like the Buffalo Bills true Red, White and Blue.

    What could have been....

    Instead of taking a stand with a powerful and heavy pair of balls, the Pegula's took a weak knee and bowed down to the NFL's politically correct altar.

    Jerry Jones recently said that any Cowboy that takes a knee on Sunday during the National Anthem will not play.

    If he stays true to his word, I'm going to become a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.

    No other owner in the NFL has had the balls to stand up for what's right. That is smart business.

    Jerry Jones is listening to his customers, the NFL is not.

    If Terry Pegula said, "We are America's team, our Buffalo Bills wear the Red, White and Blue proudly, and any player that takes a knee during the National Anthem will be replaced by a player with more heart and respect for our country," the Buffalo Bills would be America's Team right now and this forum would have a hell of a lot more viewers than it currently has.

    In previous years I've noticed a slight drop off in viewers during the bye week, but less than 100 viewers with a 3-2 team that could be 5-0 if Zay Jones caught a pass and Kyle Williams didn't get penalized for defensive holding on 3rd down?

    Unheard of.

    Terry and Kim Pegula f'd up, royally.

    Never in my life have I been so disappointed to be a fan of the Buffalo Bills.

    I love the NFL, but the NFL can give a hoot about me, my friends, and my family that has loyally supported the league for so long.

    The Pegula's made a calculated moove that followed 30 other franchise cows off a cliff.
    Who cares?

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Those players are going to sue Jerry Jones because they have a Constitutional right to do what they want with regards to kneeling. Jones cannot force them to stand. It's in the Constitution.
    They can protest... take the knee and face financial consequences. The protest right isn't being trampled on. They can kneel in protest.

    Employers have rights too. employees cannot break the code of conduct in the name of protest and NOT have consequences. I cannot wear swim trunks to work in protest. I'll be sent home then most likely fired if I persist. My rights will not have been violated.

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    They can protest... take the knee and face financial consequences. The protest right isn't being trampled on. They can kneel in protest.

    Employers have rights too. employees cannot break the code of conduct in the name of protest and NOT have consequences. I cannot wear swim trunks to work in protest. I'll be sent home then most likely fired if I persist. My rights will not have been violated.
    Exactly. The players have a Constitutional right to kneel for the National Anthem, but they don't have a Constitutional right to be employed by the Dallas Cowboys.

    The new CBA negotiations in a couple years are going to be really fun to watch I think. I'm gonna get my popcorn ready.

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    If he stays true to his word, I'm going to become a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.
    So Sunday is your last day here?

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    Equality? Most NFL players cash a check in 1 week that is worth more than most Americans make in a year.

    Equality my ass, those who kneel are complete hypocrites.
    Why do people keep bringing up how much NFL players make? That is not a measure of racial equality in any way, shape or form.

    There are 315 million people in the US, of whom roughly 12% are black, so around 37 or 38 million.

    There are 1600 NFL players and not all of them are black. A few hundred black guys getting rich playing football proves nothing about how the other 37 million or so are treated.

    Oh, and being rich doesn't prove that a person never experienced injustice or inequality. Probably should have opened with that.

    You're trying to do the "How can I be racist? I have a black friend!" thing on a national level.
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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Why do people keep bringing up how much NFL players make? That is not a measure of racial equality in any way, shape or form.

    There are 315 million people in the US, of whom roughly 12% are black, so around 37 or 38 million.

    There are 1600 NFL players and not all of them are black. A few hundred black guys getting rich playing football proves nothing about how the other 37 million or so are treated.

    Oh, and being rich doesn't prove that a person never experienced injustice or inequality. Probably should have opened with that.

    You're trying to do the "How can I be racist? I have a black friend!" thing on a national level.
    And of course rich white men using wealth and privilege to say, dodge the draft, is no big deal. Those types are true patriots!

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Why do people keep bringing up how much NFL players make? That is not a measure of racial equality in any way, shape or form.

    There are 315 million people in the US, of whom roughly 12% are black, so around 37 or 38 million.

    There are 1600 NFL players and not all of them are black. A few hundred black guys getting rich playing football proves nothing about how the other 37 million or so are treated.

    Oh, and being rich doesn't prove that a person never experienced injustice or inequality. Probably should have opened with that.

    You're trying to do the "How can I be racist? I have a black friend!" thing on a national level.
    Amen to this post.

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    The collective bargaining agreement explicitly defines the club owners as 'employers' and the players as 'employees'.
    So what?
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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by EDS View Post
    And of course rich white men using wealth and privilege to say, dodge the draft, is no big deal. Those types are true patriots!
    Are we talking about The Don or Slick Willy here?

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal View Post
    Are we talking about The Don or Slick Willy here?
    Both, not to mention many others. That said, it takes a special level of depravity to criticize the actions of others as being un-patriotic when you have taken active measures to avoid an obligation to serve.

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    Patriotism is not standing for the anthem and saluting the flag. It is about respecting, loving, and caring for other fellow citizens of the country we call home, and uniting as one. When we have people that hate others based on their color or religion or culture or sexuality, take away others' rights to medical care or education, and treat others as lesser or pieces of meat, that's fake patriotism, that's hypocrisy. And those are the ones that should be deported.

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    Re: The Pegula's Blew A Huge Opportunity To Make The Buffalo Bills, "America's Team"

    The players that are protesting are not doing it for theirselves. They’re using their status and ability to be heard on a public stage for those that can’t be heard. I have no idea what an NFL salary has to do with the protest.

    I still disagree in which the manner of the protest is being conducted, but I fully support the reason they’re protesting.

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