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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    While I listen to the radio a lot when I'm in the car, I'm definitely not an audiophile. I mostly listen to sports talk if I can find anything decent (not XM/Sirius).I'm not too particular about comfort either, except a like enough lumbar support to help keep my back from hurting after a couple hours. Mostly I'm interested in what can get me from here to there as cheaply and reliably as possible. I really liked my Honda Fit. My current car (Nissan Versa Note is cheaply built and not quite as economical to drive as the Fit, but it's been reliable. I think I'll look for something a bit bigger next time. I no longer need a hatchback, so a sedan will probably be fine. I usually buy a used car with under 30,000 miles. They have worked out well for me in recent years.
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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Check this out

    Mercedes 2012 e350 coupe

    45,000 miles.

    $20,000

    https://wwwb.autotrader.ca/ico/merce...15_312&sprx=-2
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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
    Check this out

    Mercedes 2012 e350 coupe

    45,000 miles.

    $20,000

    https://wwwb.autotrader.ca/ico/merce...15_312&sprx=-2
    A quick Google search shows 4.5 stars.

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    A quick Google search shows 4.5 stars.
    Not sure what this means...

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
    Not sure what this means...
    A simple Google search for "2012 E350" brings up all the standard reviews. All around 4.5 stars.

    https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF...er&q=2012+e350

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    A simple Google search for "2012 E350" brings up all the standard reviews. All around 4.5 stars.

    https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF...er&q=2012+e350
    That's pretty good I presume?

    The etype is not significantly more expensive than a 2012 c250, and seems it would have been 20 grand more expensive new.

    The interior is significantly snazzier and the v6 puts out 100 more horsepower than the supercharged 4.

    More bang for the used car dollar.
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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Here's the pitch from a used car salesman...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cyv3pRzbmQ

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    This is the exact same car I had stolen in 2000.

    A beautiful car that was ahead of its time.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KaXSEojSdm0&t=10s

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
    This is the exact same car I had stolen in 2000.

    A beautiful car that was ahead of its time.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KaXSEojSdm0&t=10s
    That video is from 2014- who would want a ‘99 Chrysler in 2014?

    Also how did they make a ‘99 Chrysler last that long? The V6’s they were making at that time notoriously had transmission issues. We had a 99 Concord and the tranny went at 70k miles- completely seized up

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    That video is from 2014- who would want a 99 Chrysler in 2014?

    Also how did they make a 99 Chrysler last that long? The V6s they were making at that time notoriously had transmission issues. We had a 99 Concord and the tranny went at 70k miles- completely seized up
    I bought this car in late 98 and it was stolen in late 2000.

    Ran perfectly the whole time I had it.

    The design came from a special group in California and the car was manufactured in Japan by Mitsubishi. Basically a one off totally unrelated to the rest of the Sebring line.

    A really, really nice car.

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
    That's pretty good I presume?

    The etype is not significantly more expensive than a 2012 c250, and seems it would have been 20 grand more expensive new.

    The interior is significantly snazzier and the v6 puts out 100 more horsepower than the supercharged 4.

    More bang for the used car dollar.
    That v6 was new in 2012 and was direct injection. Here's Scott to talk about that technology and specifically the trouble Honda has had with it, and I don't think MB was immune to the issues.

    https://youtu.be/VIRBsn3xfoc

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    That v6 was new in 2012 and was direct injection. Here's Scott to talk about that technology and specifically the trouble Honda has had with it, and I don't think MB was immune to the issues.

    https://youtu.be/VIRBsn3xfoc
    I checked some of the MB boards and they were aware of the issue but I couldn't find anybody claiming it had caused them a problem.

    It seemed the consensus was just because some manufacturers ****ed up their DI engines doesn't mean Mercedes did.

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
    I checked some of the MB boards and they were aware of the issue but I couldn't find anybody claiming it had caused them a problem.

    It seemed the consensus was just because some manufacturers ****ed up their DI engines doesn't mean Mercedes did.
    Perhaps MB got it right there. I have no idea. What is inherent though in all direct injection fuel systems is the higher pressure that the fuel is being injected under. I think Scottie made a point about that. It is a more complex machine that returns better performance with better fuel economy. If there is to be a cost of those gains, it will come at a price of reliability in many cases.

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    Perhaps MB got it right there. I have no idea. What is inherent though in all direct injection fuel systems is the higher pressure that the fuel is being injected under. I think Scottie made a point about that. It is a more complex machine that returns better performance with better fuel economy. If there is to be a cost of those gains, it will come at a price of reliability in many cases.
    Here's a video about a 2011 for sale.

    I'm seriously falling in love with the car...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fivHxz2X7hc

    If the price and mileage were similar, do you think I'd be better off getting the 2011 rather than 2012 or 2013 because of the direct injection concerns?

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
    Here's a video about a 2011 for sale.

    I'm seriously falling in love with the car...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fivHxz2X7hc

    If the price and mileage were similar, do you think I'd be better off getting the 2011 rather than 2012 or 2013 because of the direct injection concerns?
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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
    Here's a video about a 2011 for sale.

    I'm seriously falling in love with the car...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fivHxz2X7hc

    If the price and mileage were similar, do you think I'd be better off getting the 2011 rather than 2012 or 2013 because of the direct injection concerns?
    Nice cars. The direct injections will be something I will consider in car purchases moving forward. I like to get upwards of 200k miles or more on my cars.

    You on the other hand...
    1. Are old.
    2. Are looking for a weekend car to cruise around and put low mileage on.

    At that rate, the car may outlive you. DIs should be less of a concern to you.

    Nonetheless, while DI offers better performance, there is more to go wrong. As is true with luxery brands in general.

    Enjoy.
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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Here's a 2011 E550 (V8) coupe with just over 50,000 miles.

    $17,888

    https://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes...RKETING_CRITEO

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Seems like your pretty dialed in to the year and make. Summer is almost over. Are you going to pull the trigger?

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    Seems like your pretty dialed in to the year and make. Summer is almost over. Are you going to pull the trigger?
    Can't do it yet for reasons beyond my control.

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    Re: 2018 Toyota Corolla: not impressed.

    Hopefully that changes soon.

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