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    The media tries to change your language to manipulate you

    Yesterday on Twitter, Julia Carrie Wong, The Guardian’s senior technology editor announced that they would be making some changes to their style guide. “Climate change” will become “climate emergency, crisis or breakdown.” “Global warming” will become “global heating.” “Climate skeptic” will become “climate science denier.”



    In the mid 2000’s, according to Elizabeth Kolbert’s extensive New Yorker series on climate change, the idea was that, before the climate got warmer, it would get colder. The concept was that the Gulf Stream would break down, forcing cold air to sweep across North America and the U.K. Part of the fluctuation in the language surrounding climate change is that the scientific consensus on exactly how it all could play out keeps changing. This is when global warming became climate change, because the fear was that if the earth didn’t actually warm, people would stop believing in the catastrophe.

    The idea behind The Guardian’s new style guide is that circumstances are so dire that along with vital action to disrupt anthropocentric climate activity we must disrupt the discourse in our brains. It is an effort to add a sense of urgency to our thought process about this issue, where what is needed is not for us to tear our neurons apart, but to think rationally and calmly about an effective approach.

    It is another step forward in the breathless social panic that is sweeping western outlets as they fight for control of the narrative. More important than accuracy, rationalism, and logic, is the word war that dominates the conversation around important issues. Before a reader can get any true understanding of what’s going on, the nuances, the varying perspectives, they are first told the proper language to internalize.






    If The Guardian intends to change the language they are using to reference and explain the phenomenon previously known as global warming, more mandated doublespeak terminology is likely to flow through the publication pipeline. The Guardian’s amendments to its style guide is part of a larger trend to massage the language we use towards the aims of activists and ideologues.

    The way to get everyone on the same page is to control their thoughts, and the way to control their thoughts is to dictate their language. By manipulating the words people use, even within their own consciousness, their minds are locked in to a particular way of thinking. This is why there has been so much hay made of how racial and ethnic groups both refer to themselves and are referred to in culture and discourse. The words we use have direct corollaries to the way we think.

    An outlet can have a perspective, a journalistic bent, and many do. But The Guardian is claiming that that their language of fear mongering is objective. It put us in mind of other attempts to enforce doublespeak in the media. In 2015, a major push was made by a Canadian activist group called Femifesto to compel the media to use very specific, feminism-approved language in reporting on sexual assault. They told the media: “DON’T Overuse words like ‘alleged’ or ‘claimed.’ … DON’T Default to the descriptor ‘victim’ unless this is the wording an interviewee prefers. Many people feel ‘victim’ has negative connotations. DON’T Make the survivor the subject of the sentence and assign the verb to them.”

    We can see now, in 2019, just how insidious and effective this kind of linguistic authoritarianism can be. The concept of innocent-until-proven-guilty is frowned upon. Almost all mainstream media outlets insist upon calling alleged victims “survivors” without evidence that they survived anything at all.






    Today we are constantly facing demands that we speak and write in a politically correct way. They demand that we all use preferred pronouns so that theys, thems, xims, and xirs don’t feel left out. They insist that the terminology surrounding womanhood and motherhood be changed: woman is wrong; menstruator or pregnant person is correct; breastfeeding is wrong; chestfeeding is correct. The language surrounding the concept of racial and ethnic discrimination has been broadened. Teens in MAGA hats and evolutionary biologists are now racists and sexists respectively. Even with regard to suicide, there is an argument being made that people should stop saying “committed suicide,” because it legitimizes the idea that it is a crime.

    Major media outlets like The Guardian are in lockstep with governments and social media companies in attempts to monitor your speech and censor what you say. The well-intentioned but Orwellian Christchurch Call is just the latest manifestation of this. It’s frightening. In a healthy, free society, the media should question abuses of power, not contribute to them.

    British singer Morrissey recently implored us in the song “Spent the Day in Bed” to “stop watching the news because the news contrives to frighten you, to make you feel small and alone, to make you feel like your mind isn’t your own.” When you consider all of these recent attempts to infuse the language we use with hysteria, Morrissey is singing some sound advice.
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    Re: The media tries to change your language to manipulate you

    What’s your point? The media and politicians have done this throughout history on both sides. “Late term abortions” became “partial birth abortions.” “Illegal aliens” became “undocumented workers”. It goes on and on.

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    The point is, why lie if you believe it to be happening. And people wonder why others are so skeptical.

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    Re: The media tries to change your language to manipulate you

    Quote Originally Posted by ticatfan View Post
    The point is, why lie if you believe it to be happening. And people wonder why others are so skeptical.
    Changing terminology isn’t lying. It’s emphasizing the seriousness of the situation.

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    Re: The media tries to change your language to manipulate you

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Changing terminology isn’t lying. It’s emphasizing the seriousness of the situation.
    Remember global warming where the earth is going tom burn up?? Now it is CC. This is what left wing governments do, cant trust them at all. Even now here, the government has announced that the words sikh, muslim, islam can not be used while talking about terrorism ,because they might offend some voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Changing terminology isn’t lying. It’s emphasizing the seriousness of the situation.


    In the case of global warming, the name was changed because the pattern didn't fit.

    Government wants to keep taxes on carbon emissions. Give subsidies to solar power - Go Solyndra Go! And scientists want to keep getting grant money.

    Global warming, climate change, man made climate change, and now apparently whatever new terminology they want to give it is big business fearmongering at its finest.

    And some of you are still gullible, or arrogant enough, to believe that we, as a species, are so much bigger and more important than the Earth, the Sun, volcanoes to be the main driving force of change. It's laughable.

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    Re: The media tries to change your language to manipulate you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post


    In the case of global warming, the name was changed because the pattern didn't fit.

    Government wants to keep taxes on carbon emissions. Give subsidies to solar power - Go Solyndra Go! And scientists want to keep getting grant money.

    Global warming, climate change, man made climate change, and now apparently whatever new terminology they want to give it is big business fearmongering at its finest.

    And some of you are still gullible, or arrogant enough, to believe that we, as a species, are so much bigger and more important than the Earth, the Sun, volcanoes to be the main driving force of change. It's laughable.
    Yeah that’s right. Scientists- you know, the smartest people in the world- couldn’t figure out any legitimate way to make money so they created a giant international conspiracy to defraud governments, private businesses and individuals alike. That’s a completely insane point of view.

    And you know what, suppose it isn’t real. Then we’d get clean air, clean water, renewable energy and energy independence for no good reason. That sure would suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Yeah that’s right. Scientists- you know, the smartest people in the world- couldn’t figure out any legitimate way to make money so they created a giant international conspiracy to defraud governments, private businesses and individuals alike. That’s a completely insane point of view.

    And you know what, suppose it isn’t real. Then we’d get clean air, clean water, renewable energy and energy independence for no good reason. That sure would suck.
    It's insane to keep believing a theory that has to keep changing to reflect reality.

    It's insane to think we are so much greater than the Earth, the Sun, volcanoes to change anything.

    Really think global warming is a problem? Get some scientists together and tell them how to figure out how to artificially cause volcanoes to explode. That'll cool the Earth and will slow down the warming that some of you think we're doing and is going to doom the Earth!

    Or of course you could just buy some future beachfront property in Arizona Bay.

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    Re: The media tries to change your language to manipulate you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    It's insane to keep believing a theory that has to keep changing to reflect reality.

    It's insane to think we are so much greater than the Earth, the Sun, volcanoes to change anything.

    Really think global warming is a problem? Get some scientists together and tell them how to figure out how to artificially cause volcanoes to explode. That'll cool the Earth and will slow down the warming that some of you think we're doing and is going to doom the Earth!

    Or of course you could just buy some future beachfront property in Arizona Bay.
    imagine thinking you know more than a bazillion scientists with degrees on climate and ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupremeParentHater View Post
    imagine thinking you know more than a bazillion scientists with degrees on climate and ****
    Define scientist . Is it someone with merely a degree in something sciencey? Climate scientists , if they exist, are in the 10s NOT bazillions.

    Do some research and look at data on your own. Sea level rise is not accelerating. The global temperature flatlined for nearly 19 years while CO2 steadily increased. Science would call that a flaw in the theory that no one can explain. Is it warming, warming and sometimes cooling, not warming but will soon, any warming is bad even if the warming is only at night and in winter.

    hurricanes will increase, or decrease. Calif. is in a drought, now flood prone. More tornados , less tornados. It can’t fit into anything that is scientific hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Define scientist . Is it someone with merely a degree in something sciencey? Climate scientists , if they exist, are in the 10s NOT bazillions.

    Do some research and look at data on your own. Sea level rise is not accelerating. The global temperature flatlined for nearly 19 years while CO2 steadily increased. Science would call that a flaw in the theory that no one can explain. Is it warming, warming and sometimes cooling, not warming but will soon, any warming is bad even if the warming is only at night and in winter.

    hurricanes will increase, or decrease. Calif. is in a drought, now flood prone. More tornados , less tornados. It can’t fit into anything that is scientific hypothesis.

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    Yes Tyke, the media spins things and always has. That is why it helps to have a wide variety of sources and always helps to question everything you read. When questioning what you read you want to know the following:

    1a. Who wrote it? Is it Tommy Tinfoil in his bunker with a rebel battle flag on the wall waiting for the race war, is it Dr Bombsalot of the Rand Corp contemplating how we can justify the next putsch in Venezuela or the next bombing campaign against Syria as a "humanitarian" campaign, Is it Groovy Hippy Dude saying why we have war man?
    1b. What is their bias? Everyone has bias. For instance I have an anti official Washington bias and I frankly feel the CIA and the intel aparat, the state dept, the MIC, and the Military are all working to keep us at war constantly because war is good for business and because they hope through war and regime change to get the reich global hegemony over the raw materials it needs to keep it going, there is nothing necessarily wrong with bias and in fact the evidence overwhelmingly supports my position, but you must understand that bias can color how you perceive reality and the narrative you attempt to sell to others

    2. What are their sources? Did they just pull it out of their ass, did it come from James Jimmy Gonnorhea Clapper, or was it a trust worthy source? In your case, is it a coal industry spokesman or is it an actual scientist who is reporting what the research and the scholarship has to say

    3. Who pays them and why?

    4. What are they trying to tell you?

    5. Can what they say be independently verified by reading the primary source material?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    It's insane to keep believing a theory that has to keep changing to reflect reality.

    It's insane to think we are so much greater than the Earth, the Sun, volcanoes to change anything.

    Really think global warming is a problem? Get some scientists together and tell them how to figure out how to artificially cause volcanoes to explode. That'll cool the Earth and will slow down the warming that some of you think we're doing and is going to doom the Earth!

    Or of course you could just buy some future beachfront property in Arizona Bay.
    It’s actually not insane at all to think we are greater than the sun, earth, volcanoes. Think about it. Nature spends billions of years putting all those fossil fuels in the ground, storing up energy. Then we dig it all up and release all that energy in a couple of centuries. Nature can’t possibly be equipped to deal with that because there’s no way for it to happen naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticatfan View Post
    Remember global warming where the earth is going tom burn up?? Now it is CC. This is what left wing governments do, cant trust them at all. Even now here, the government has announced that the words sikh, muslim, islam can not be used while talking about terrorism ,because they might offend some voters.
    What do Muslims and terrorism have to do with anything? The fact that it’s always on your mind and pops out so quickly shows your fears and biases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    It’s actually not insane at all to think we are greater than the sun, earth, volcanoes. Think about it. Nature spends billions of years putting all those fossil fuels in the ground, storing up energy. Then we dig it all up and release all that energy in a couple of centuries. Nature can’t possibly be equipped to deal with that because there’s no way for it to happen naturally.
    Uh, we are nature so it’s natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticatfan View Post
    Yesterday on Twitter, Julia Carrie Wong, The Guardian’s senior technology editor announced that they would be making some changes to their style guide. “Climate change” will become “climate emergency, crisis or breakdown.” “Global warming” will become “global heating.” “Climate skeptic” will become “climate science denier.”
    What if we're doing it just so we can eventually get through to knuckleheads like yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Uh, we are nature so it’s natural.
    What an idiotic thing to say. Human beings do so many things that go against nature that it isn’t even funny. Not all of them are bad. For example, we go out of our way to make sure people with disabilities get a fair shot. Every other species rejects those that can’t fend for themselves- survival of the fittest. But some are bad- no other species poisons their own environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    It's insane to keep believing a theory that has to keep changing to reflect reality.

    It's insane to think we are so much greater than the Earth, the Sun, volcanoes to change anything.

    Really think global warming is a problem? Get some scientists together and tell them how to figure out how to artificially cause volcanoes to explode. That'll cool the Earth and will slow down the warming that some of you think we're doing and is going to doom the Earth!

    Or of course you could just buy some future beachfront property in Arizona Bay.
    Scientists have already been telling us what we need to do to change course. People like you just want the easy answer. Take a pill. Explode a volcano. Sacrifice a little bit? Nahhhhh

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    Re: The media tries to change your language to manipulate you

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    What an idiotic thing to say. Human beings do so many things that go against nature that it isn’t even funny. Not all of them are bad. For example, we go out of our way to make sure people with disabilities get a fair shot. Every other species rejects those that can’t fend for themselves- survival of the fittest. But some are bad- no other species poisons their own environment.
    I would argue that those would still be nature. But OUR slice of nature - the great things we can do if we work together. The co-burden of responsibility that we have over the garden we were gifted.

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