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    Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You


    The president keeps baring his ass, and the people talking about his clothing as he does so are part of the problem.The president is a racist, in his words and his actions.

    Before you go clutching your pearls and extolling the virtues of “civility,” let me say this: Put a sock in it.

    This is not a new revelation, nor is it something that we can continue to ignore as though it were coming from a drunk uncle at the family barbecue. Bigotry is dangerous and, coming from our nation’s commander in chief, it can mean an inability to recognize individual humanity and a failure to act with moral authority in times of crisis. Every person talking about his clothes as he cheerfully bares his ass is part of the problem.

    On Sunday, he claimed that newly elected progressive Democrats “originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe” and “the worst, more corrupt and inept anywhere in the world.” And he toldfreshmen Reps. Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar—outspoken Democratic women of color who have challenged the administration’s inhumane immigration policies—to leavethe country.

    Three of the four were born here in the United States. All are American citizens, and duly elected members of Congress.

    Trump’s repugnant rebuke of American values did not come out of thin air. It unfolded days after “the Squad” travelled with a delegation of congressional Democrats to tour detention facilities in border states. What they found was deplorable. Reports of rampant abuse and neglect filled the airwaves, leading Trump to again dismiss accurate coverage as “fake news.” Rather than focus on improving basic conditions and getting to work on bi-partisan, comprehensive reforms, the president basically said if immigrants didn’t like how they were being treated, they should stay in their own country.

    This morning, he turned his ire on some of his most vocal critics in Congress—all of whom have previously called for his impeachment.

    “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came,” Trump tweeted about the four congresswomen today. “Then come back and show us how it is done.”

    “These places need your help badly,” he went on, “you can’t leave fast enough.”

    While Republicans predictably remained tight-lipped and oblivious, Democrats reacted swiftly.

    “Mr. President, the country I ‘come from,’ and the country we all swear to, is the United States,” Rep. Ocasio-Cortez responded. “You are angry because you can’t conceive of an America that includes us. You rely on a frightened America for your plunder.”

    “When @realDonaldTrump tells four American Congresswomen to go back to their countries, he reaffirms his plan to ‘Make America Great Again’ has always been about making America white again,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a tweet. “Our diversity is our strength and our unity is our power.”

    This isn’t simply disgusting and divisive rhetoric. Whether it is the abhorrent, inhumane treatment of immigrants detained in government-sponsored concentration camps or the slow, piecemeal aid sent to Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria, for some, his policies have been deadly.

    Certainly, this is not the first time Trump has shamelessly revealed himself in public. His “Make America Great Again” campaign was always about catering to our lowest common denominator—a hateful sector of the electorate that believes themselves culturally superior by skin color and religion.

    For years, even before mounting a formal bid for the presidency, Trump regaled television news audiences with racist conspiracy theories about former President Barack Obama. He pledged to send investigators out to prove the nation’s 44th president was not born in the United States. He later derided immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African countries, calling those foreign nations “**** hole countries.” He once said immigrants from Haiti all “have AIDS” and that Nigerian immigrants would never “go back to their huts.”

    In Trump’s mind, a judge’sMexican heritage made him incapable of ruling fairly in a civil fraud case against one of his companies, and he believes “laziness is a trait in blacks.” Trump, whose real estate company was sued for housing discrimination in the 1970s, went on to place a full-page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five innocent black teenagers. Even after the Central Park Five were exonerated, he refused to take it back. After Heather Heyer was murdered in Charlottesville, Virginia, amid a white supremacist protest, he lamented the there were “some very fine people” on “both sides.”

    Trump is not a fine person. His words Sunday were not racially “charged,” “fueled,” or “tinged.” They were unapologetically racist.

    And, if you support him, so are you.

    The majority of Republicans and conservatives are racist bigots. They prove it time and time and time again.

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    If there is not a race war in the US over the next 30 years, I will be surprised.

    Trump is just saying what a good 25% of Americans think.

    Having a Black President really chapped their asses.

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    America no longer has to have RED ALERT for Islamic Terrorists, we are gonna need a RED ALERT against Americans ... People like Moonie have been pounding their chests for HOW long for this war to begin??
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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    You should have seen how this Trump apologist just defended Trump's comments on Outnumbered on FOX News just now..



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    Trump doesn’t see immigrants as Americans, even when they enter the country legally and become citizens.

    Trump doesn’t seem to realize that people of color can be native born US citizens. He seems to think that anyone who’s not white must be from somewhere else.

    You know, I’ve been hesitant to call Trump a racist. He has certainly said a lot of racially charged things since he started campaigning and certainly as president, but as others have pointed out, he was never accused of being a racist before he was the Republican candidate. I was holding out hope that he was just saying those things because he knows it plays well with his base (which is really sad, but not the point of this discussion). But as time goes on and these things constantly come out of his mouth, it’s become way too obvious.

    Trump is a racist.

    I think he was just really good at hiding it all these years.

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Trump doesn’t see immigrants as Americans, even when they enter the country legally and become citizens.

    Trump doesn’t seem to realize that people of color can be native born US citizens. He seems to think that anyone who’s not white must be from somewhere else.

    You know, I’ve been hesitant to call Trump a racist. He has certainly said a lot of racially charged things since he started campaigning and certainly as president, but as others have pointed out, he was never accused of being a racist before he was the Republican candidate. I was holding out hope that he was just saying those things because he knows it plays well with his base (which is really sad, but not the point of this discussion). But as time goes on and these things constantly come out of his mouth, it’s become way too obvious.

    Trump is a racist.

    I think he was just really good at hiding it all these years.
    Not that well to anyone who cares...




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    Hate is what we need if we are going to get something done ...

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Quote Originally Posted by Haile SpikedLemonade View Post
    You should have seen how this Trump apologist just defended Trump's comments on Outnumbered on FOX News just now..


    Sorry, but I cannot watch 10 minutes of this dribble. Can you paraphrase what they said please?

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Quote Originally Posted by Haile SpikedLemonade View Post
    Not that well to anyone who cares...




    "I want society to hate them...."
    Trump's daddy was a racist. Trump is a racist, Trump's kids are racists.

    Jesus....his daddy taught him how to keep blacks out of his rental properties. The whole Trump family are a bunch of Anti-American value scumbags!!!

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    Sorry, but I cannot watch 10 minutes of this dribble. Can you paraphrase what they said please?
    Basically it is just Trump talking like Trump talks.

    He didn't mean it literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    Trump's daddy was a racist. Trump is a racist, Trump's kids are racists.

    Jesus....his daddy taught him how to keep blacks out of his rental properties. The whole Trump family are a bunch of Anti-American value scumbags!!!
    When he says “Make America Great Again,” i hear “Let’s put women and uppity minorities back in their place!”

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Quote Originally Posted by Haile SpikedLemonade View Post
    Basically it is just Trump talking like Trump talks.

    He didn't mean it literally.
    Well most of the people that voted for him are the same people who cherry-pick which sections of the Bible are to be taken literally and which sections are metaphorical, based on no criteria whatsoever, so it’s not really surprising that they’re doing the same thing with Trump’s words.
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    Trump just double downed on his racist comments.

    Why is he bringing up the Jews when no one is talking about the Jews?

    How much coq is he prepared to suck for Jewish votes and Jewish donations?

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Donald Trump's long history of racism, from the 1970's to 2019

    Trump has a long history of racist controversies

    Here’s a breakdown of Trump’s history, taken largely from Dara Lind’s list for Vox and anop-ed by Nicholas Kristof in the New York Times:

    • 1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.


    • 1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”


    • 1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speechaccusing countries like Japan of “stripping the United States of economic dignity.” This matches much of his current rhetoric on China


    • 1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.


    • 1991: A bookby John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interviewthat “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”


    • 1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.


    • 1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”


    • 2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of adssuggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”


    • 2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”


    • 2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. Hesaid he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”


    • 2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy outone of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”


    • 2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.



    • 2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”



    For many people, none of these incidents, individually, may be totally damning: One of these alone might suggest that Trump is simply a bad speaker and perhaps racially insensitive (“politically incorrect,” as he would put it), but not overtly racist.

    But when you put all these events together, a clear pattern emerges. At the very least, Trump has a history of playing into people’s racism to bolster himself — and that likely says something about him too.

    And of course, there’s everything that’s happened through and since his presidential campaign.

    As a candidate and president, Trump has made many more racist comments

    On top of all that history, Trump has repeatedly made racist — often explicitly so — remarks on the campaign trail and as president:

    • Trump launched his campaign in 2015 by calling Mexican immigrants “rapists” who are “bringing crime” and “bringing drugs” to the US. His campaign was largely built on building a wall to keep these immigrants out of the US.
    • As a candidate in 2015, Trump called for a ban on all Muslims coming into the US. His administration eventually implemented a significantly watered-down version of the policy.
    • When asked at a 2016 Republican debate whether all 1.6 billion Muslims hate the US, Trump said, “I mean a lot of them. I mean a lot of them.”
    • He arguedin 2016 that Judge Gonzalo Curiel — who was overseeing the Trump University lawsuit — should recuse himself from the case because of his Mexican heritage and membership in a Latino lawyers association. House Speaker Paul Ryan, who endorsed Trump, later called such comments “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”
    • Trump has been repeatedly slow to condemn white supremacists who endorse him, and he regularly retweetedmessages from white supremacists and neo-Nazis during his presidential campaign.
    • He tweeted and later deletedan image that showed Hillary Clinton in front of a pile of money and by a Jewish Star of David that said, “Most Corrupt Candidate Ever!” The tweet had some very obvious anti-Semitic imagery, but Trump insisted that the star was a sheriff’s badge, and said his campaign shouldn’t have deleted it.
    • Trump has repeatedly referred to Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) as “Pocahontas,” using her controversial — and later walked-back — claims to Native American heritage as a punchline.
    • At the 2016 Republican convention, Trump officially seized the mantle of the “law and order” candidate — an obvious dog whistle playing to white fears of black crime, even though crime in the US ishistorically low. His speeches, comments, and executive actions after he took office have continued this line of messaging.
    • In a pitch to black voters in 2016, Trump said, “You’re living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?”
    • Trump stereotypeda black reporter at a press conference in February 2017. When April Ryan asked him if he plans to meet and work with the Congressional Black Caucus, he repeatedly asked her to set up the meeting — even as she insisted that she’s “just a reporter.”
    • In the week after white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, Trump repeatedly said that “many sides” and “both sides” were to blame for the violence and chaos that ensued — suggesting that the white supremacist protesters were morally equivalent to counterprotesters that stood against racism. He also said that there were “some very fine people” among the white supremacists. All of this seemed like a dog whistle to white supremacists — and many of them took it as one, with white nationalist Richard Spencer praisingTrump for “defending the truth.”
    • Throughout 2017, Trump repeatedly attackedNFL players who, by kneeling or otherwise silently protesting during the national anthem, demonstrated against systemic racism in America.
    • Trump reportedly said in 2017 that people who came to the US from Haiti “all have AIDS,” and he lamented that people who came to the US from Nigeria would never “go back to their huts” once they saw America. The White House denied that Trump ever made these comments.
    • Speaking about immigration in a bipartisan meeting in January 2018, Trump reportedly asked, in reference to Haiti and African countries, “Why are we having all these people from ****hole countries come here?” He then reportedly suggested that the US should take more people from countries like Norway. The implication: Immigrants from predominantly white countries are good, while immigrants from predominantly black countries are bad.
    • Trumpdenied making the “****hole” comments, although some senators present at the meeting said they happened. The White House, meanwhile,suggested that the comments, like Trump’s remarks about the NFL protests, will play well to his base. The only connection between Trump’s remarks about the NFL protests and his “****hole” comments is race.
    • Trump mocked Elizabeth Warren’s presidential campaign, again calling her “Pocahontas” in a tweet before adding, “See you on the campaign TRAIL, Liz!” The capitalized “TRAIL” is seemingly a reference to the Trail of Tears — a horrific act of ethnic cleansing in the 19th century in which Native Americans were forcibly relocated, causing thousands of deaths.
    • Trump tweeted that several black and brown members of Congress — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) — are “from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe” and that they should “go back” to those countries. It’s a common racist trope to say that black and brown people, particularly immigrants, should go back to their countries of origin. Three of four of the members of Congress whom Trump targeted were born in the US.

    This list is not comprehensive, instead relying on some of the major examples since Trump announced his candidacy. But once again, there’s a pattern of racism and bigotry here that suggests Trump isn’t just misspeaking; it is who he is.
    "Making Racism GREAT Again" is Trump's 2020 Re-Election Campaign slogan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haile SpikedLemonade View Post
    You should have seen how this Trump apologist just defended Trump's comments on Outnumbered on FOX News just now..


    Wow! Harris Faulkner sure looks like a KKK Grand wizzard. Good thing the democrats like Pelosi don't at all.

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    Wow! Harris Faulkner sure looks like a KKK Grand wizzard. Good thing the democrats like Pelosi don't at all.
    There's your modern day Uncle Tom.

    She couldn't give a crap about average Black people and certainly does not self-identify as one.

    Why should she --- she thinks she is much better than the average Black person.

    She was born well off and married that way as well.

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Trump doesn’t see immigrants as Americans, even when they enter the country legally and become citizens.

    Trump doesn’t seem to realize that people of color can be native born US citizens. He seems to think that anyone who’s not white must be from somewhere else.

    You know, I’ve been hesitant to call Trump a racist. He has certainly said a lot of racially charged things since he started campaigning and certainly as president, but as others have pointed out, he was never accused of being a racist before he was the Republican candidate. I was holding out hope that he was just saying those things because he knows it plays well with his base (which is really sad, but not the point of this discussion). But as time goes on and these things constantly come out of his mouth, it’s become way too obvious.

    Trump is a racist.

    I think he was just really good at hiding it all these years.
    Dude. Come on. I know you are not that nieve. That man has a long LONG history of racism. He's not being called racist because he's Republican. It's because he says and does a HUGE number of things you refer to as "racially charged". For decades.

    He "seems racist" because he is and forever will be a blatant racist.

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Quote Originally Posted by Haile SpikedLemonade View Post
    If there is not a race war in the US over the next 30 years, I will be surprised.

    Trump is just saying what a good 25% of Americans think.

    Having a Black President really chapped their asses.
    We didn't just have a black President, we had a good & decent black President.

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    Re: Trump Is a Racist. If You Still Support Him, So Are You

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian'eh! View Post
    Dude. Come on. I know you are not that nieve. That man has a long LONG history of racism. He's not being called racist because he's Republican. It's because he says and does a HUGE number of things you refer to as "racially charged". For decades.

    He "seems racist" because he is and forever will be a blatant racist.
    If Stormy Daniels was a black chick, you don't think he still would've paid to cheat on his wife with her?

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