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    Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    All season long, the Bills have had success with misdirection plays. Usually, it's a motion man going to the right, then when the play starts, a WR or RB will run behind the line of scrimmage in the opposite direction, and Allen will flip him the ball.

    They didn't use that play at all yesterday. They faked it a few times, and once Allen kept it and ran right (and IIRC it got a decent gain).

    It just really surprised me that they didn't use plays that had worked in the past, especially when they struggled offensively early in the game.

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    All season long, the Bills have had success with misdirection plays. Usually, it's a motion man going to the right, then when the play starts, a WR or RB will run behind the line of scrimmage in the opposite direction, and Allen will flip him the ball.

    They didn't use that play at all yesterday. They faked it a few times, and once Allen kept it and ran right (and IIRC it got a decent gain).

    It just really surprised me that they didn't use plays that had worked in the past, especially when they struggled offensively early in the game.
    Also, all season long, Miami has struggled against those plays.

    It really doesn't make sense.

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    Daboll sucks

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Haile SpikedLemonade View Post
    Daboll sucks
    That explains it. ))

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    So basically, we DID use a misdirection play, it was just an indirect misdirection at a higher level that goes a little something like this...

    Daboll thought process:

    -- "We've been using misdirection plays all year, Miami will expect us to use those plays. So, we'll surprise Miami by NOT using those plays at all; in essense 'misdirecting' them! I'm a genius!!!"

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaziganth View Post
    So basically, we DID use a misdirection play, it was just an indirect misdirection at a higher level that goes a little something like this...

    Daboll thought process:

    -- "We've been using misdirection plays all year, Miami will expect us to use those plays. So, we'll surprise Miami by NOT using those plays at all; in essense 'misdirecting' them! I'm a genius!!!"
    Sounds like the reverse of some of Gregg Williams' "This is so stupid they'll never expect us to do it!" play calls.

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    I really do think Daboll is holding the offense back. Allen’s strength is his ability to elude defenders. Put him in a position outside the pocket to do so. More rollouts!

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    They did try a 'jet sweep' with TE Knox in the second half, and several plays where the 'jet' ran the motion but didn't get the ball.
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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamze132 View Post
    I really do think Daboll is holding the offense back. Allen’s strength is his ability to elude defenders. Put him in a position outside the pocket to do so. More rollouts!
    The goal is to lessen the hits on Allen, not increase them.

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    All season long, the Bills have had success with misdirection plays. Usually, it's a motion man going to the right, then when the play starts, a WR or RB will run behind the line of scrimmage in the opposite direction, and Allen will flip him the ball.

    They didn't use that play at all yesterday. They faked it a few times, and once Allen kept it and ran right (and IIRC it got a decent gain).

    It just really surprised me that they didn't use plays that had worked in the past, especially when they struggled offensively early in the game.
    Agreed 100% keep the defense off balance.
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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    I think the reason is that he tends to save it for the Redzone. Outside the redzone he takes shots at the Endzone.

    The first FG we never made it there, but he did have that throw screen thing to DiMarco, and had an endzone throw to McKenzie I think. The second FG, same thing never made it to the Redzone, had the throw to Knox that would've gone for a TD. The third FG same thing, outside the redzone, no TD throw but a couple more drops by Knox.

    TD pass, same thing, outside the Redzone, but made a deep attempt for the TD to Brown.

    The TD after the fumble we had the McKenzie razzle dazzle that almost went for a TD. Then we went for a high percentage pass to Beasly for an easy TD.

    Outside the scoring drives we had three punts. All deep on the wrong side of the 50. Mess up one of those plays on our side and we're losing the field position battle.

    Overall it's a really conservative approach. They are fine with safe vanilla offense until they get beyond midfield and maybe beyond opponent's 40-35. Then they take a shot at the endzone when WRs can still run a full route. If they get into the redzone they have saved the tricks for scoring TDs instead of FGs. I don't have ANY problem with how that game was called.

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    The goal is to lessen the hits on Allen, not increase them.
    He doesn’t have to be hit if he’s taught how to slide and avoid the big hits.

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    prior to yesterday, the offense was top 10. This is with 8-9 new starters on offense which is pretty much a unit that is learning an entire new offense and learning how to play together with a QB who was rawer than sashimi when we drafted him.

    The only way for a team to get gel well is continuity both schematically and player personnel.
    While Im not sold on Daboll , he comes from a NE type of thinking where they have to have a different scheme every week . Cant have continuity if you are not doing the same thing over and over again because you have to game plan differently every week with an overhauled line up at that.

    IMO, scheming is not whats killing us. Its just a new offense with a young qb thats still leaning how to be a qb at the NFL level.

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    Re: Why didn't we use the misdirection plays?

    I have no issues with the play calling. The pre-snap penalties are hurting us more than anything. I think Daboll is really being conservative about what he puts out there. Keeping the cards close to the vest if you will. Revealing yourself against the Dolphins seems like a waste of effort.
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