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    Question Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    Handing off less than 10 times to the RBs in a low scoring game where we were never behind by more than 6 points seems on the face of it to be utterly stupid especially when Singletary was running hard and fighting to finish each run for additional yardage.

    That lack of commitment to the run by Daboll results in absolutely no flow to the run game to allow the OL to open run lanes.

    However, then you have Daboll's design of plays where he has a FB split out wide in short yardage fooling no one. What competent NFL OC does that?

    Why design a play where Beasley is going long when you have Brown and Foster to do that?

    I can't figure out whether it is Daboll's in game play calling or the plays he designs and inserts in the playbook.

    I do know that after 2 off-seasons and a 1 & 1/2 years of season play that Daboll still does not know how to properly use Allen and has done a piss poor job of developing Allen.

    You can't be a play-off team in today's NFL if you don't score 20 points in a game.

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    I don't think it's the plays per se, it's poor situational football.

    Like throwing the bomb on 3rd and 3.

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    Daboll has it in his head that his offense will weekly morph into whatever it has to be to beat that weeks opponent. This is why IMO we see no continuity, no identity and no go to plays. He's trying to make an immature offense play at a level it's not ready for. That and he's a blockhead.
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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    I don't think it's the plays per se, it's poor situational football.

    Like throwing the bomb on 3rd and 3.
    This.....he has no clue on the situation. it's like he;s just calling whatever he feels like. Coach MC D needs to be in in his ear on this stuff. Pretty sure he can say "hey Brian its 3 and 4 lets get the first down here and keep this dive moving." right?

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    There is no rhyme or reason for his playcalls. There are plays where an open WR is out there but Allen only has one read and if that guy isn’t all the way open, we’re screwed.

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    I , again, mention the lack of receiver in motion to determine coverage. Brady uses it all the time to know if he’s facing man or zone. He then knows if his deep guys are in a zone and he can go to Edelman underneath or if there is man... he can go deeper trusting his receivers 1 on 1 to get open.

    you cannot figure out a D by just looking at it when coming up to the line.

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamze132 View Post
    There is no rhyme or reason for his playcalls. There are plays where an open WR is out there but Allen only has one read and if that guy isn’t all the way open, we’re screwed.
    More than half of the plays Allen is staring down his receiver and doesn't even look at the other half of the field.

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turf View Post
    More than half of the plays Allen is staring down his receiver and doesn't even look at the other half of the field.
    This is my greatest fear -- that he simply never learns to read NFL defenses to a competent level.

    Not sure if he has the head for the game.

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    Quote Originally Posted by Haile SpikedLemonade View Post
    This is my greatest fear -- that he simply never learns to read NFL defenses to a competent level.

    Not sure if he has the head for the game.
    #7 overall draft pick might be a mental midget. I’d be interested to see if a competent OC could get Josh to play better. Let’s find out!

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    Quote Originally Posted by Haile SpikedLemonade View Post
    However, then you have Daboll's design of plays where he has a FB split out wide in short yardage fooling no one. What competent NFL OC does that?

    Why design a play where Beasley is going long when you have Brown and Foster to do that?

    I can't figure out whether it is Daboll's in game play calling or the plays he designs and inserts in the playbook.
    He's so lost in his play call sheet and calls such random plays that he doesn't keep track of what personnel grouping he has on the field, or doesn't care because it's theoryball.
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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    I don't think it's the plays per se, it's poor situational football.

    Like throwing the bomb on 3rd and 3.
    Who makes that final decision to throw that ball though ? The deep pass is just one option, that specific play where Allen threw deep to Beasley, there were shorter routes, with open receivers. The final decision on where the ball goes is on Allen, there are no plays where he has only 1 option on what to do.

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    I think he tries to outsmart the other team way too much. Just play football. You have one of the best 3rd down WR in football, in Beasley, who is open probably most of the time. Run crossing routes. Run draw plays. Run plays that make sense. There's a time to try and out-smart, and it's maybe a few times a game. Not every time a crucial situation arises. Why in the balls are you lining your FB out wide? He has, what, 10 career catches? Makes zero sense. Why are you running 10-15 yard routes with no underneath route on 3rd and 3? Why are you not running the ball?

    Daboll is an idiot. He has moments where his playcalling has looked good, but then he refuses to adapt to the game, and keeps trying to get cute.

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    Re: Is it More Daboll's in Game Play Calling or Seasonal Play Design?

    What always amazes me about the NFL is that you just know that after Daboll is fired for the 4th time as a NFL OC after being with a different NFL team for two or one years, in a couple of years he will be hired as an OC again.

    This guy is a 4 time NFL OC loser yet he will no doubt be recycled.

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