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    Bolivian coup forces Morales to flee

    Another one bites the dust.

    Trump praises coup and calls for the Venezuelan and Nicaraguan governments to be overthrown in the name of "freedom"...

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../mora-n12.html

    Bolivia’s Evo Morales forced out by coup
    By Andrea Lobo
    12 November 2019
    Bolivian president Evo Morales of the Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) party was forced to resign Sunday evening by the Bolivian military in a coup backed by the United States. Last night, Morales tweeted that he is “leaving for Mexico” after that country agreed to grant him asylum.

    After three weeks of protests following the disputed October 20 presidential elections, the imperialist powers and their Bolivian client elite have overthrown the government of Morales. In the context of a deepening crisis of global capitalism and a resurgence of the class struggle internationally, including recent mass strikes among miners and doctors in Bolivia, the ruling class lost confidence that Morales and the MAS apparatus can continue to suppress social opposition.

    Despite empty calls to “preserve democracy,” the US government is backing a takeover of the most racist and authoritarian Bolivian politicians and state officials to install a regime that will ruthlessly crackdown on opposition as global finance demands a full-blown exploitation of Bolivia’s vast and strategic oil and mining resources, including 70 percent of global lithium reserves.

    Yesterday, US president Donald Trump released a statement celebrating the coup and applauding “the Bolivian military for “abiding by its oath to protect not just a single person, but Bolivia’s Constitution.” He then threatened the Venezuelan and Nicaraguan governments with the same fate, ending: “We are now one step closer to a completely democratic, prosperous and free Western Hemisphere.”

    Pitched fighting took place last night as thousands of peasants and workers from El Alto and other regions surrounding La Paz mobilized in the capital to protest the coup, chanting “Now it’s time for civil war.” Several police buildings were occupied and then burned in El Alto.

    The armed forces have responded by activating “Plan Sebastián Pagador” to restore “peace and stability,” which the police are enforcing by shooting protesters with volleys of live bullets and grenades.

    The Mexican government agreed yesterday to Morales’s request for asylum after his house was burned down and an arrest warrant issued by the Bolivian police. The Mexican Foreign Ministry asked the same Bolivian authorities that overthrew Morales to provide a “safe passageway.” However, the governments of Argentina and Brazil said they would not allow Morales to use their airspace.

    The head of the pro-Morales Supreme Electoral Tribunal (TSE) and several electoral officials were arrested Sunday, while about 20 MAS politicians have sought asylum in the Mexican embassy in La Paz.

    Given the resignation of the presidents of the Senate and Chamber of Deputies along with Morales, the next in line will be the Senate vice president and opposition figure Jeanine Añez.

    However, Luis Fernando Camacho, a far-right leader of the Santa Cruz Civic Committee —an organization led by business groups—who has become the de facto leader of the demonstrations, called for a “junta” including the military and police chiefs. The corporate media has gleefully branded Camacho “Bolivia’s Bolsonaro,” in reference to the Brazilian fascistic president.

    Protests erupted across the country after the broadcast of electoral results stopped for 23 hours between Sunday and Monday evening October 20-21. During this period, Morales’s lead over Carlos Mesa in second place jumped from 7.87 percent to 9.36 percent. The TSE’s final result gave Morales 35,000 votes above the 10 percent lead needed to avoid a run-off.

    Morales’s vote fell from 63 percent in the 2014 elections to 47 percent, while MAS lost 21 seats in the Chamber of Deputies and four seats in the Senate, keeping slight majorities.

    Some sections of the working class participated in the initial protests amid widespread concerns over fraud; however, as the far-right character of the political parties and “civic committees” leading the protests became apparent, many workers dropped their support. For instance, medical professionals carried out a national strike, seeing the unrest as potential opportunity to rally popular support behind their demands against austerity, but the strike ended after only three days.

    Clashes between protesters, government supporters and police have left three dead, 221 arrested and 383 injured, including several from gunshots. Pro-Morales trade union thugs were among those deployed against protesters, while far-right anti-Morales attackers were filmed beating up indigenous people. On November 7, demonstrators captured Patricia Arce, a MAS mayor in the small town of Vinto, blaming her for one of the killings. She was released after being drenched in red paint as protesters cut her hair.

    Morales and MAS responded by inviting the Organization of American States (OAS), which had already demanded a second round before the final results, to carry out a “binding audit.” The main backer of the OAS, the US government, proclaimed that MAS had “stolen” the elections, while the European Union had also called for a second round.

    Morales’s decision to allow the OAS to approve or disapprove the results meant placing the fate of his government in the hands of the US State Department. The audit began on Thursday, October 31.

    On Monday, November 4, Morales’s helicopter had to make an immediate and emergency landing due to suspicious mechanical issues. On Friday and Saturday, entire police departments, including in the capital of La Paz, rioted and joined the anti-Morales protests. Then, on Sunday morning, the OAS released its preliminary report, alleging that 78 of the 333 recount processes “showed irregularities and manipulation” and that “the manipulations of the computer systems are of such magnitude that they must be deeply investigated by the Bolivian state.”

    Without presenting the corresponding evidence, the OAS then called for new elections overseen by a new electoral commission. Shortly after, the US Secretary of State, Michael Pompeo, released a statement backing the OAS report and adding a statement directed against MAS: “In order to restore the credibility of the electoral process, all government officials and officials of any political organizations implicated in the flawed October 20 elections should step aside from the electoral process.”

    Morales initially responded in a press conference by agreeing to new elections under a new electoral commission, without indicating if he would participate or when the elections would occur. Effectively, this meant that he would abide by any arrangement imposed by Washington.

    The Bolivian Workers Central (COB), which constituted a central instrument in the MAS government, then called for Morales’s resignation. Significantly, the Peasant Trade Union Confederation (CSUTCB), which belongs to the COB and assembled some of the main indigenous leaders that backed Morales, demanded that Morales “rot in the Chonchocoro jail because this was a fraud and deception against the Aymara.”

    Several ministers whose houses were set on fire and MAS deputies resigned. Then, Evo Morales and vice president Álvaro García Linera, announced their resignations from the Chapare region in central Bolivia, where Morales began his political career as a trade unionist.

    During his announcement, Morales denounced that he was being subjected to a “civilian and police coup,” and said he was resigning to avoid further violence and persecutions against his supporters and himself. At the same time, he said the OAS report was based on political, not technical considerations, but that he “understood” and “respected that.”

    As demonstrated by its continued subservience to the demands of imperialism and its institutions like the OAS, any future role played by Morales, MAS and their apologists will be aimed at providing a democratic cover to the reality that Bolivian economic and political life are dominated by the US and European financial aristocracies and its military puppets in Bolivia, while there is no section of the Bolivian ruling class capable of fighting imperialism

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    Re: Bolivian coup forces Morales to flee

    I don't know much about Bolivia or Morales and I won't pretend to pass judgement on this is a good or bad move for Bolivia. What I did find interesting is that he was granted asylum in Mexico and as he was boarding the plane said he would be back with more power and energy.
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    Mexico? When he returns he’ll be hung over and suffering the squirts.

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    Morales is about the last South American president I expected to bite the dust.

    I guess this just goes to show that if you do so much a lift a finger to help poor people in South America, the United States is gunning for you. Literally.
    Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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    Re: Bolivian coup forces Morales to flee

    That's your boy Shiva.

    Bravo.

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    Re: Bolivian coup forces Morales to flee

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Morales is about the last South American president I expected to bite the dust.

    I guess this just goes to show that if you do so much a lift a finger to help poor people in South America, the United States is gunning for you. Literally.
    I know a bit about Bolivia under Morales.
    This has nothing to do with the US.
    Nothing.

    Eventually, these guys always go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain gameboy View Post
    I know a bit about Bolivia under Morales.
    This has nothing to do with the US.
    Nothing.

    Eventually, these guys always go away.
    The same way you knew a bit about Saddam's WMDs?

    You lack credibility. I'll wait for someone else to chime in here, because you're just a sad, aging Republican water carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    The same way you knew a bit about Saddam's WMDs?

    You lack credibility. I'll wait for someone else to chime in here, because you're just a sad, aging Republican water carrier.
    And this is how incredibly stupid this forum has become.

    I carry water for nobody, certainly not the Republican Party, and the foolish linkage is par for the course.

    You have absolutely no idea of the issues in Bolivia over the past 15 years.
    No idea of the players.
    No idea at all, about anything.

    Instead, you bring up some red herring which has zero to do with anything related to this topic.
    I don't give a **** about perceived credibility here.

    One by one they all go away.
    Expropriating people's stuff only works when you have a plan what to do with it, and they never do, other than to use it to pay off political allies, fix elections and punish opposition.

    This idiotic view that any of this is caused by the US is the stuff or ignorant morons, completely lacking any awareness of anything local.

    Always the same.
    One could write the same foolish claims here, for so many years, and just substitute the country and the leader, but it's always the same ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain gameboy View Post
    And this is how incredibly stupid this forum has become.

    I carry water for nobody, certainly not the Republican Party, and the foolish linkage is par for the course.

    You have absolutely no idea of the issues in Bolivia over the past 15 years.
    No idea of the players.
    No idea at all, about anything.

    Instead, you bring up some red herring which has zero to do with anything related to this topic.
    I don't give a **** about perceived credibility here.

    One by one they all go away.
    Expropriating people's stuff only works when you have a plan what to do with it, and they never do, other than to use it to pay off political allies, fix elections and punish opposition.

    This idiotic view that any of this is caused by the US is the stuff or ignorant morons, completely lacking any awareness of anything local.

    Always the same.
    One could write the same foolish claims here, for so many years, and just substitute the country and the leader, but it's always the same ignorance.
    Lies make baby Jesus cry :)

    I keep a relatively close tab on Bolivia. I get a large portion of my news from my subscription to the somewhat right-of-center publication, The Economist, which covers South American politics extensively.

    Do I fly over Bolivia every couple months? No, I sure don't.

    I guess I'll have to stop doing so much boring reading and start getting window seats on flights to Argentina. If we fly over Bolivia, maybe I'll even catch that no-good rascal, Evo Morales, up to his usual shenanigans from an altitude of 35,000 feet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain gameboy View Post
    And this is how incredibly stupid this forum has become.

    I carry water for nobody, certainly not the Republican Party, and the foolish linkage is par for the course.

    You have absolutely no idea of the issues in Bolivia over the past 15 years.
    No idea of the players.
    No idea at all, about anything.

    Instead, you bring up some red herring which has zero to do with anything related to this topic.
    I don't give a **** about perceived credibility here.

    One by one they all go away.
    Expropriating people's stuff only works when you have a plan what to do with it, and they never do, other than to use it to pay off political allies, fix elections and punish opposition.

    This idiotic view that any of this is caused by the US is the stuff or ignorant morons, completely lacking any awareness of anything local.

    Always the same.
    One could write the same foolish claims here, for so many years, and just substitute the country and the leader, but it's always the same ignorance.
    then why do you keep on coming back?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Lies make baby Jesus cry :)

    I keep a relatively close tab on Bolivia. I get a large portion of my news from my subscription to the somewhat right-of-center publication, The Economist, which covers South American politics extensively.

    Do I fly over Bolivia every couple months? No, I sure don't.

    I guess I'll have to stop doing so much boring reading and start getting window seats on flights to Argentina. If we fly over Bolivia, maybe I'll even catch that no-good rascal, Evo Morales, up to his usual shenanigans from an altitude of 35,000 feet!
    He got caught cheating in the election, by the sounds of it. But that does not bother people, or is this trump playing games. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticatfan View Post
    He got caught cheating in the election, by the sounds of it. But that does not bother people, or is this trump playing games. lol
    I don't rubber stamp any ol' socialist leader in South America. I certainly don't approve of Maduro.

    But I would like to know see more proof regarding the voting irregularities levied against Morales as he's always struck me as a cut above a lot of other leaders in the region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    then why do you keep on coming back?????
    I read about five minutes worth of stuff here in the morning.
    I occasionally respond to subjects I am familiar with, and only if I am personally familiar-not media sources.

    One feels a responsibility to offer a view that does not go with the consensus, if he thinks that view is a more accurate view of the issue.

    That's kind of a therapeutic response, and my self justification.

    The real reason is I think this is a hilarious train wreck, and five minutes a day is not much to spend when the option is seeing the local weather forecast for the fifth time.

    Even in retirement, I am an extremely busy guy, but the crap here is funny.
    Not edifying.....Funny.

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    On the lighter side, here's a tip re Bolivia.
    I spent a fair amount of nights there, in Santa Cruz.
    The absolute best food I have ever eaten, and I've kind of been around, is the ceviche in Santa Cruz.

    I was so committed to it that I wanted to start a business importing their marinade.
    Had it shipped up once, and it was great, but the shipping was too hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain gameboy View Post
    On the lighter side, here's a tip re Bolivia.
    I spent a fair amount of nights there, in Santa Cruz.
    The absolute best food I have ever eaten, and I've kind of been around, is the ceviche in Santa Cruz.

    I was so committed to it that I wanted to start a business importing their marinade.
    Had it shipped up once, and it was great, but the shipping was too hard.
    What was so difficult about getting the recipe and making it yourself?

    Do they use magic ingredients only found in Bolivia?

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    https://consortiumnews.com/2019/11/1...ivia-coverage/

    MSM Adamantly Avoids the Word ‘Coup’ in Bolivia Coverage
    November 12, 2019 •

    By Caitlin Johnstone
    CaitlinJohnstone.com

    There has been a military coup in Bolivia backed by violent right-wing rioters and the U.S. government, but you’d hardly know this from any of the mainstream media headlines.

    “Bolivian President Evo Morales steps down following accusations of election fraud” proclaims CNN.

    “Bolivia’s Morales resigns amid scathing election report, rising protests” reports The Washington Post.

    “Bolivian Leader Evo Morales Steps Down” says The New York Times.

    “Bolivian President Evo Morales resigns amid fraud poll protests” declares the BBC.

    “President of Bolivia steps down amid allegations of election rigging” we are informed by Telegraph.

    “Bolivia’s President Morales resigns after backlash to disputed election” says the Sydney Morning Herald.

    So, there you have it. The indigenous leader of a socialist South American government which has successfully lifted masses of people out of crushing poverty, which happens to control the world’s largest reserves of lithium (which may one day replace oil as a crucial energy resource due to its use in powering smartphones, laptops, hybrid and electric cars), which has an extensive and well-documented history of being targeted for regime change by the U.S. government, simply stepped down due to some sort of scandal involving a “disputed election.” Nothing to do with the fact that right-wing mobs had been terrorizing this leader’s family, or the fact that the nation’s military literally commanded him to step down and are now currently searching for him to arrest him, leading to ousted government officials being rounded up and held captive by soldiers wearing masks.

    All perfectly normal and not suspicious at all.


    Secretary Pompeo

    @SecPompeo
    Fully support the findings of the @OAS_official report recommending new elections in #Bolivia to ensure a truly democratic process representative of the people’s will. The credibility of the electoral system must be restored.

    As is usual, mass media’s reporting on this story is in full alignment with the U.S. State Department, with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo also advancing the “disputed election” line in a tweet shortly before the forced resignation of Morales. Pompeo cited the evidence-free and discredited allegation of suspicious vote tallies during Morales’s re-election last month from the Washington-based Organization of American States (OAS). As Mark Weisbrot of the Center for Economic & Policy Research explains in a recent article for The Nation, the OAS receives 60 percent of its funding from Washington, which gives the U.S. tremendous leverage over the supposedly neutral and international body. This ties in interestingly with what we discussed the other day about Washington’s known history of using its disproportionate financial support for the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons as leverage to force that supposedly neutral and international body to comply with U.S. agendas.

    The field of narrative management keeps making more and more advances.


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    They never did find any evidence of fraud in the October 20th election, but the media repeated the allegation so many times that it became "true," in this post-truth world. Thread: https://twitter.com/MarkWeisbrot/sta...29359925579776

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    Well it's officially a military coup now in Bolivia. And, as usual, backed by the United States government. Without the US-dominated OAS, & a lot of terrible and even false reporting, it probably wouldn't have happened.

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    The U.S.-centralized empire just keeps throwing coup attempts at unabsorbed governments until they stick. The coup in Venezuela failed in 2002 and again in 2019, but they’ll just keep attempting them until one takes hold. A kickboxer throws strikes in combinations with the understanding that most attacks will miss or do minimal damage against a trained opponent, but eventually one will get through and score the knockout blow. Imperialist regime change agendas employ the same punches-in-bunches philosophy: just keep attacking and undermining at every possible turn, and eventually something will stick.

    And the empire can afford to do this. When you have all the power and resources, you can bide your time, knowing that if the current attempt at toppling the government in a sovereign nation fails, there’s always tomorrow.

    At a United Nations Security Council meeting last year, Morales summed up the true nature of America’s role in the world very accurately, and, it turns out, very presciently.

    “I would like to say to you, frankly and openly here, that in no way is the United States interested in upholding democracy,” Morales said. “If such were the case it would not have financed coups d’etat and supported dictators. It would not have threatened with military intervention democratically elected governments as it has done with Venezuela. The United States could not care less about human rights or justice. If this were the case, it would have signed the international conventions and treaties that have protected human rights. It would not have threatened the investigation mechanism of the International Criminal Court, nor would it promote the use of torture, nor would it have walked away from the Human Rights Council. And nor would it have separated migrant children from their families, nor put them in cages.”

    “The United States is not interested in multilateralism,” Morales continued. “If it were interested in multilateralism it would not have withdrawn from the Paris Agreement or given the cold shoulder to the global compact on migration, it would not have launched unilateral attacks, nor have taken decisions such as illegally declaring Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel. This contempt for multilateralism is motivated by the thirst of the United States for political control and for the seizing of natural resources.”

    “Each time that the United States invades nations, launches missiles, or finances regime change, it does so behind a propaganda campaign which incessantly repeats the message that it is acting in the course of justice, freedom and democracy, in the cause of human rights or for humanitarian reasons,” Morales also said.

    “The responsibility of our generation is to hand over a fairer and more secure world to the following generation,” Morales concluded. “We will only achieve this dream if we work together to consolidate a multipolar world, a world with common rules that are respected by and defended from all the threats ranged against the United Nations.”

    Indeed, the only reason the U.S. is able to wage its endless campaign of regime change agendas against unabsorbed governments is because the unipolar world order it rules has allowed it the power, resources and leisure to do so. A multipolar world would enable the citizenry of this planet to have a say in what happens to them in a way that is not dictated by a few sociopaths in and around Washington, DC. A multipolar world is to democracy as a unipolar world is to monarchy. The citizens of the world should oppose this unipolarity.

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    Re: Bolivian coup forces Morales to flee

    Quote Originally Posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
    What was so difficult about getting the recipe and making it yourself?

    Do they use magic ingredients only found in Bolivia?
    I couldn't do it, and I tried, using every research asset available.
    Ceviche is cold cooked seafood. The proteins cook because of the acidity of the marinade, which has the same effect as heat, but with much better results.

    The marinade is the secret. I figured out that they were blending garlic with their peppers, along with the basic ingredient, which is lime juice.
    Not just marinading, but actually emulsifying the garlic/acid mix.

    Their peppers are much sweeter than grown in the norther hemisphere, but the limes they use is the key.

    Anyway, I had a quart or so sent to me.
    Marinated the Chilean sea bass and got the same result....Not quite as good, but better than any ceviche I've had in the US, a view agreed to by four people.
    Again the best food I have ever eaten, but I can't replicate it, and importing the marinade from there is not reasonable.
    I've tried.
    I did the same thing, with good, but not equal results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    I don't rubber stamp any ol' socialist leader in South America. I certainly don't approve of Maduro.

    But I would like to know see more proof regarding the voting irregularities levied against Morales as he's always struck me as a cut above a lot of other leaders in the region.
    Can you become a leader in SA without corruption and cheating??

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    Re: Bolivian coup forces Morales to flee

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Lies make baby Jesus cry :)

    I keep a relatively close tab on Bolivia. I get a large portion of my news from my subscription to the somewhat right-of-center publication, The Economist, which covers South American politics extensively.

    Do I fly over Bolivia every couple months? No, I sure don't.

    I guess I'll have to stop doing so much boring reading and start getting window seats on flights to Argentina. If we fly over Bolivia, maybe I'll even catch that no-good rascal, Evo Morales, up to his usual shenanigans from an altitude of 35,000 feet!
    I have spent scores of nights in Bolivia, and I can see from what you post that you have no idea of the history and the current situation there.
    You can insult me all you want.
    Just another damn fool on on message board.

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    Re: Bolivian coup forces Morales to flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain gameboy View Post
    I couldn't do it, and I tried, using every research asset available.
    Ceviche is cold cooked seafood. The proteins cook because of the acidity of the marinade, which has the same effect as heat, but with much better results.

    The marinade is the secret. I figured out that they were blending garlic with their peppers, along with the basic ingredient, which is lime juice.
    Not just marinading, but actually emulsifying the garlic/acid mix.

    Their peppers are much sweeter than grown in the norther hemisphere, but the limes they use is the key.

    Anyway, I had a quart or so sent to me.
    Marinated the Chilean sea bass and got the same result....Not quite as good, but better than any ceviche I've had in the US, a view agreed to by four people.
    Again the best food I have ever eaten, but I can't replicate it, and importing the marinade from there is not reasonable.
    I've tried.
    I did the same thing, with good, but not equal results.
    I find it hard to believe you couldn't find someone to teach you how to do it, and if the limes and peppers are unique, you just import them.

    Ceviche, like most of the world's culinary treasures, is peasant food.

    Invented under the yoke of poverty and privation.

    It's not a magic potion.

    Anyone that watches the food channel knows that.

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    Last edited by CommissarSpartacus; 11-12-2019 at 02:55 PM.

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