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    GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Breaking News: The Trump administration broke the law in withholding Ukraine aid, Government Accountability Office says in newly issued decision.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/polit...aid/index.html
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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Trump's arrogance and ignorance strikes again. He thinks he's a dictator who can do what he wants and he's either too stupid or too apathetic to understand what he is and is not allowed to do as president. And he doesn't listen to the people around him who do understand.

    This kind of stuff is going to keep happening as long as this clown shoes administration is in power. The sad part is that his base doesn't care. Fox News and the other equally ridiculous right wing media have them believing that any reprimand of Trump is just a partisan witch hunt.

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Trump's arrogance and ignorance strikes again. He thinks he's a dictator who can do what he wants and he's either too stupid or too apathetic to understand what he is and is not allowed to do as president. And he doesn't listen to the people around him who do understand.

    This kind of stuff is going to keep happening as long as this clown shoes administration is in power. The sad part is that his base doesn't care. Fox News and the other equally ridiculous right wing media have them believing that any reprimand of Trump is just a partisan witch hunt.
    To be entirely honest, he’s just a really poor liar and really bad at negotiating. If you’re going to commit an illegal act then at least come up with a better lie to justify it or do a better job leveraging the threat of withholding aid to get what you want.

    It’s just a really poor level of competency.
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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    To be entirely honest, he’s just a really poor liar and really bad at negotiating. If you’re going to commit an illegal act then at least come up with a better lie to justify it or do a better job leveraging the threat of withholding aid to get what you want.

    It’s just a really poor level of competency.
    I'm not sure competency has anything to to with it. He really does think he is above the law and can do anything he wants, and has even said so. And that should frighten everyone, no matter their political persuasion.
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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Trump's arrogance and ignorance strikes again. He thinks he's a dictator who can do what he wants and he's either too stupid or too apathetic to understand what he is and is not allowed to do as president. And he doesn't listen to the people around him who do understand.

    This kind of stuff is going to keep happening as long as this clown shoes administration is in power. The sad part is that his base doesn't care. Fox News and the other equally ridiculous right wing media have them believing that any reprimand of Trump is just a partisan witch hunt.
    Boy, for a so-called witch hunt, they sure seem to be arresting a lot of witches!

    How curious...

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Boy, for a so-called witch hunt, they sure seem to be arresting a lot of witches!

    How curious...
    He's draining the swamp as promised. He just failed to mention that it would be drained of the millions of gallons of filthy, polluted water he dumped in it himself.

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    And on top of this, did anyone see the Maddow-Parnas interview yesterday? He also implicated Trump in his attempts to pressure Ukraine, and basically confirmed a lot of what others have already testified to. He also implicated Pence in all of it.


    Lev Parnas, the indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani who has been implicated in an alleged attempt to pressure the Ukrainian government to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, says, "President Trump knew exactly what was going on."

    "He was aware of all my movements. I wouldn't do anything without the consent of Rudy Giuliani or the president.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...going-n1116731

    Like I keep saying, things can unravel quickly.

    This is part of the reason Pelosi was holding the articles impeachment, she knew there's a lot more out there.

    And also a very big part of why McConnell doesn't want witnesses and just wanted to dismiss the whole thing. Not to mention he could also be implicated.

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Duh!!!! We've known this for quite some time.

    Frank Rich wrote a great piece (What Will Happen to The Trump Toadies?) on how much crap is going to come out after Trump leaves office (and is hopefully in jail).

    We have only seen the tip of the iceberg or Trump's illegally, stupidity and gross corruption.

    The latest book out paints a very disturbing picture.....

    New book portrays Trump as erratic, ‘at times dangerously uninformed’


    President Trump reveals himself as woefully uninformed about the basics of geography, incorrectly telling Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, “It’s not like you’ve got China on your border.” He toys with awarding himself the Medal of Freedom.

    And, according to a new book by Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol D. Leonnig, Trump does not seem to grasp the fundamental history surrounding the attack on Pearl Harbor.


    “Hey, John, what’s this all about? What’s this a tour of?” Trump asks his then-Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, as the men prepare to take a private tour of the USS Arizona Memorial, which commemorates the December 1941 Japanese surprise attack in the Pacific that pulled the United States into World War II.

    “Trump had heard the phrase ‘Pearl Harbor’ and appeared to understand that he was visiting the scene of a historic battle, but he did not seem to know much else,” write the authors, later quoting a former senior White House adviser who concludes: “He was at times dangerously uninformed.”


    “A Very Stable Genius” — a 417-page book named after Trump’s own declaration of his superior knowledge — is full of similarly vivid details from Trump’s tumultuous first three years as president, from his chaotic transition before taking office to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia investigation and final report.

    The story the authors unfurl, as they explain in the prologue, “is intended to reveal Trump at his most unvarnished and expose how decision-making in his administration has been driven by one man’s self-centered and unthinking logic — but a logic nonetheless.”

    The book by the two longtime Post reporters — who were part of the team that won a 2018 Pulitzer Prize for its reporting on Trump and Russia — was obtained ahead of its scheduled release Tuesday.

    Many of the key moments reported in the book are rife with foreign policy implications, portraying a novice commander in chief plowing through normal protocols and alarming many both inside the administration and in other governments.


    Early in his administration, for instance, Trump is eager to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin — so much so, the authors write, “that during the transition he interrupts an interview with one of his secretary of state candidates” to inquire about his pressing desire: “When can I meet Putin? Can I meet with him before the inaugural ceremony?” he asks.

    After the two leaders meet face-to-face for the first time — 168 days into his presidency at the Group of 20 summit in Hamburg — Trump promptly declares himself a Russia expert, dismissing the expertise of then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who had worked closely with Putin since the 1990s, when Tillerson was working his way up the ExxonMobil corporate ladder and doing business with Russia.

    “Tillerson’s years of negotiating with Putin and studying his moves on the chessboard were suddenly irrelevant,” the duo writes. “ ‘I have had a two-hour meeting with Putin,’ Trump told Tillerson. ‘That’s all I need to know. . . . I’ve sized it all up. I’ve got it.’ ”


    In spring 2017, Trump also clashed with Tillerson when he told him he wanted his help getting rid of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, a 1977 law that prevents U.S. firms and individuals from bribing foreign officials for business deals.

    “It’s just so unfair that American companies aren’t allowed to pay bribes to get business overseas,” Trump says, according to the book. “We’re going to change that.”

    The president, they go on to explain, was frustrated with the law “ostensibly because it restricted his industry buddies or his own company’s executives from paying off foreign governments in faraway lands.”

    The book, the duo writes in an author’s note, is based on hundreds of hours of interviews with more than 200 sources, corroborated, when possible, by calendars, diary entries, internal memos and even private video recordings. (Trump himself had initially committed to an interview for the book, the authors write, but ultimately declined, amid an escalating war with the media).


    The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment Wednesday.

    One government aide tells the authors that Trump has destroyed the gravity and allure that used to surround the presidency, regardless of the Oval Office occupant.

    “ ‘He’s ruined that magic,’ this aide said of Trump,” Rucker and Leonnig write. “ ‘The disdain he shows for our country’s foundation and its principles. The disregard he has for right and wrong. Your fist clenches. Your teeth grate.’ ”

    Anthony Scaramucci, who served as Trump’s communications director for just 11 days, recounts the president’s response when he asks him, “Are you an act?”

    “I’m a total act and I don’t understand why people don’t get it,” Trump replies, according to Scaramucci.

    Yet the people in Trump’s administration and orbit don’t behave as if the president is simply playing a part or acting a role. At the Justice Department, then-Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein and other senior officials run through private fire drills in case Trump triggers a “Saturday night massacre” — an allusion to the series of resignations under President Richard M. Nixon following his order to his attorney general to fire the Watergate independent special prosecutor.


    “They prepared for several scenarios: If Trump fired [then-Attorney General Jeff] Sessions, if Trump fired Rosenstein, and if Trump ordered the firing of Mueller,” the authors write.

    The officials have reason to be concerned, according to the authors, who report that Trump muses about using a memo by Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) as the justification for firing Rosenstein and reining in Mueller’s investigation. He also rails against his own Justice Department, furious that the agency isn’t being sufficiently loyal to him personally.

    At one point, after the department blocks the release of what the president believes was a pro-Trump memo, he calls Kelly ranting. “ ‘This is my Justice Department. They are supposed to be my people,’ Trump told Kelly,” the authors write. “ ‘This is the ‘Deep State.’ . . . Mueller’s all over it.’ ”


    Some details are more harmless than disconcerting. Early in his presidency, Trump agrees to participate in an HBO documentary that features judges and lawmakers — as well as all the living presidents — reading aloud from the Constitution. But Trump struggles and stumbles over the text, blaming others in the room for his mistakes and griping, “It’s like a foreign language.”

    In another scene, Axios reported in December 2018 that former New Jersey governor Chris Christie and Trump met privately to discuss Christie possibly becoming his next chief of staff. After Christie respectfully turns down the job, he asks Trump how the details of their meeting leaked out, since it was just the two of them and first lady Melania Trump in the room.

    “Oh, I did it,” said Trump, who has long vented about leakers, revealing himself to be among them.


    Other moments have a darker tinge. Rucker and Leonnig write that during the early days of the Mueller investigation, both Donald McGahn, then the White House counsel, and Stephen K. Bannon, then a senior White House adviser, try to persuade Ty Cobb — the lawyer tasked, at the time, with overseeing the White House’s involvement in the probe — to remove Trump’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner, both senior advisers, from the White House staff, to protect the president during the ongoing investigation.

    “ ‘You need to shoot them in the [expletive] head,’ Bannon jokingly told Cobb,” the authors write.

    Trump was “verbally and emotionally abusive” toward then-Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the book reports, and routinely complained she was not doing enough about illegal immigration and the border.


    According to the book, “He made fun of her stature and believed that at about five feet four inches she was not physically intimidating. ‘She’s so short,’ Trump would tell others about Nielsen. She and Kelly would try to make light of it. Kelly would rib her and say, ‘But you’ve got those little fists of fury!’ ”

    When Nielsen — who had received threats against her life as the public face of the administration’s hard-line immigration policy — eventually left the government, she did so without any prearranged continuing security detail, which must be requested by the chief of staff and authorized by the president.

    “When some of her international counterparts visited Washington, they offered to hire personal security for Nielsen to protect her, but she declined,” write the authors. “ ‘That would look horrible,’ Nielsen told them. ‘Can you imagine the story? Foreign governments provide security because the U.S. won’t?’ ”

    The duo opens one chapter with the case of Rob Porter — the former White House staff secretary who was ultimately pushed out of his job amid allegations of domestic abuse from his two ex-wives. After a photo surfaces on the Internet of Colbie Holderness, one of his ex-wives, sporting a black eye that she alleges Porter gave her, Trump offers a competing theory.

    “Maybe, Trump said, Holderness purposefully ran into a refrigerator to give herself bruises and try to get money out of Porter?” they write.

    Near the end of the book, Rucker and Leonnig delve into tensions between Mueller and Attorney General William P. Barr. Mueller and his team are frustrated when Barr releases an initial, four-page letter summarizing the “principal conclusions” of Mueller’s 448-page report, which they do not think sufficiently captures the context, nature and substance of Mueller’s full investigation.

    “Inside the bunker of Mueller’s lawyers, Barr’s letter stung,” write the authors. “Members of the special counsel team would later describe Mueller’s reaction: He looked as if he’d been slapped.”

    After Mueller writes a letter to Barr expressing his frustrations, the authors report that Barr calls Mueller, resulting in a testy phone conversation.

    “ ‘What the hell, Bob?’ Barr asked,” they write. “ ‘What’s up with this letter? Why didn’t you pick up the phone and call me?’ ”

    Barr complains that his team offered Mueller’s team an opportunity to review his letter before it went out and they declined — “We’re flabbergasted here,” Barr says, according to the book — but the call ultimately ends on “an uplifting note.”

    Some of the modest details in the book end up having larger consequences. After Trump bungles his India-China geography and seems to dismiss the threat China poses to India, for instance, the authors write that “Modi’s eyes bulged out in surprise.”

    “Modi’s expression gradually shifted, from shock and concern to resignation,” they continue, adding that one Trump aide concludes Modi probably “left that meeting and said, ‘This is not a serious man. I cannot count on this man as a partner.’ ”

    After the meeting, the aide explains to them, “ ‘the Indians took a step back’ in their diplomatic relations with the United States.”

    The part about him wanting to make it legal to bribe foreign governments is Trump in a nutshell......and shows why he thinks his corrupt phone call with Ukraine's president was "perfect". Yeah....a perfect bribery attempt that he thinks is perfectly OK.

    This is a deeply disturbed man, who should not be close to the power of the presidency. And now we have three years of evidence on why he should have never been president.....and how damaging that fluke is to America and the word.

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Breaking News: The Trump administration broke the law in withholding Ukraine aid, Government Accountability Office says in newly issued decision.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/polit...aid/index.html
    Breaking News:

    Seven Times the GAO Found the Obama Administration Violated Federal Law!
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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Breaking News:

    Seven Times the GAO Found the Obama Administration Violated Federal Law!
    we are talking about Obama, now are we?

    IF you would have wanted Obama impeachable for breaking the law, then you should want Trump impeached as well.

    if you want Trump to get away with everything and you think he has done no wrong, because Obama did it too, well then, you prove Sparty’s “you do it too” justification.
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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Breaking News:

    Seven Times the GAO Found the Obama Administration Violated Federal Law!
    Woodman got his marching orders from Breitbart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    we are talking about Obama, now are we?

    IF you would have wanted Obama impeachable for breaking the law, then you should want Trump impeached as well.

    if you want Trump to get away with everything and you think he has done no wrong, because Obama did it too, well then, you prove Sparty’s “you do it too” justification.
    Point is it's all about nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Point is it's all about nothing.
    No, that's what you want it to be. It's very much something

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    No, that's what you want it to be. It's very much something
    please enjoy the nothing.

    something you can pin your hopes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    please enjoy the nothing.

    something you can pin your hopes on.
    Thanks, I will

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Point is it's all about nothing.
    Then why post Obama did it too??

    If it was nothing?

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    He's draining the swamp as promised. He just failed to mention that it would be drained of the millions of gallons of filthy, polluted water he dumped in it himself.

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    Hahaha. Trump IS the Swamp!!!

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Then why post Obama did it too??

    If it was nothing?
    To prove it was nothing then and is nothing now.

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    Re: GAO: Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    To prove it was nothing then and is nothing now.
    Oh, really?!?!? What have you "proven"?!?!

    To "prove" something, you have to present detail on what, when, how & why.

    You have done none of that. Will you?!?!?

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