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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

    notacon is an idiot. Terry Miller wasn't a bust. Fool.
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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

    Why not phone it in, you know the entire team
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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

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    notacon is an idiot. Terry Miller wasn't a bust. Fool.
    So much anger. You really need to seek some help with that.

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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

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    notacon is an idiot. Terry Miller wasn't a bust. Fool.
    Fifth overall pick??? Sure he was a bust. More people agree with me, than you.

    May 5, 1981: Buffalo Bills Trade First Round Bust Terry Miller


    Terry Miller was the fifth overall pick in the 1978 NFL Draft, selected in an effort to replace the just-departed O.J. Simpson. The most obvious statement to make here is that Miller did not live up to Simpson on the field in any way, shape or form. On this date in 1981, the Buffalo Bills cut bait on Miller, trading him to the Cleveland Browns.

    Once the Bills traded Simpson, they needed a running game to shore up the offense led by Joe Ferguson. Miller had a wildly successful career at Oklahoma State, finishing second in Heisman voting, so his selection was probably met with fanfare in Buffalo. (Anyone want to confirm that?)

    In his rookie year, Miller led the team in rushing with 1,060 yards and seven touchdowns while splitting carries with Curtis Brown and Roland Hooks. Over the rest of his career, he wouldn't even surpass half those totals. In his second season, he rushed for only 484 yards as Brown led the team in rushes and yards. In 1980, he was relegated to return duties, bringing back 16 kickoffs and rushing the ball only 12 times.

    That's where everything gets fuzzy.

    Miller was traded to the Browns, but never played for them. Supposedly, the Browns gave up fourth- and seventh-round picks in exchange for Miller. (Remember: the draft had 12 rounds in 1982.) The seventh-round pick was used on K Gary Anderson, who was cut coming out of training camp and went on to have a great NFL career, most notably with the Steelers and Vikings. But the Associated Press never mentioned the fourth-rounder, and the Bills only used one pick in that round.

    Miller rushed for four yards on two carries with the Seattle Seahawks in 1981 before falling permanently out of football. Perhaps since he never played for the Browns, the fourth-rounder was dropped from the deal.
    Power ranking: The 13 biggest running back busts of all-time


    10. Terry Miller

    We’re going old school once again with Terry Miller. Miller was the No. 5 overall draft pick by the Buffalo Bills out of Oklahoma State in the 1978 NFL Draft.

    In all seriousness, Miller’s rookie season was not bad at all. In fact, it was damn near great for a rookie. He rushed for 1,060 yards and seven touchdowns in 1978 with a 60-yard scoot to the house for his longest run of the season.

    In his second season, though, Miller saw his carries drop from 238 in his first season to 139 carries in 1979. Miller lost carries to a third-round fullback named Curtis Brown.

    Miller rushed for 484 yards and only one touchdown in 1979, and the Bills went 7-9 – better than their 5-11 record the year before. So, maybe the Bills figured out that handing the ball off to Miller was actually not a good thing. They cut his carries by about 100 and won two more games.

    He wouldn’t score another touchdown for the rest of his career.

    In 1980, Miller was relegated to kick returner, and rookie running back Joe Cribbs was given the workload and never gave it back. The second-round pick out of Auburn ran for 1,185 yards and 11 touchdowns while Miller had just 12 carries for 35 yards.

    Talk about chopped liver, huh?

    In 1981, Miller tried to catch on with the Seattle Seahawks, but a piece of Double Bubble lasted longer than Miller’s time in Seattle. He only played in one game and had a pair of two-yard runs.
    Terry Miller would have had a great career for an undrafted free agent. FIFTH overall??? He was a HUGE bust.

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    Actually....on second thou8ght, Terry Miller's career would be considered a bust for an undrafted free agent too.

    His career lasted four seasons...kinda....the fourth season was with Seattle and he had 2 carries for 4 yards.

    His career in the NFL:

    1978 - 16 games - 238 rushes - 1060 yards - 7 TD
    1979 - 16 games - 139 rushes - 484 yards - 1 TD
    1980 - 15 games (no starts) - 12 rushes - 35 yards - 0 TD
    1981 - 1 game with Seattle - 2 rushes - 4 yards - 0 TD


    If that career has not got HUGE BUST written all over it, it changes the definition of "BUST". Especially for the FIFTH overall pick.

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    There was a HUGE amount of anticipation when they drafted Miller, he never did pan out.
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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

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    There was a HUGE amount of anticipation when they drafted Miller, he never did pan out.
    Nope. He was a smart guy and was working in the financial industry. He was offered a VP position at a bank back in Oklahoma and took it. His heart just wasn't in it after 2-3 years.
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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

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    Fifth overall pick??? Sure he was a bust. More people agree with me, than you.

    May 5, 1981: Buffalo Bills Trade First Round Bust Terry Miller




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    Terry Miller would have had a great career for an undrafted free agent. FIFTH overall??? He was a HUGE bust.
    Terry Miller was the first 1000+ yard RB to the Bills after OJ left - back when that was a huge deal. And he did it as a rookie. So, yes, you are an idiot. The fans loved him.

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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    There was a HUGE amount of anticipation when they drafted Miller, he never did pan out.
    Wrong. Again, he showed what he did right out of the draft (which Josh Allen has not). That the Bills had a terrible team and a coaching change and didn't use him correctly wasn't his problem. That the coach dropped him from 238 touches to 139 to 12 was NOT Miller's fault. notacon cannot seem to comprehend such things, making him a loud-mouthed idiot.

    In 1980 Joe Cribbs came in as a rookie. In 1979, Chuck Knox spread out the touches between Miller, Curtis Brown and Roland Hooks.

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    Wrong. Again, he showed what he did right out of the draft (which Josh Allen has not). That the Bills had a terrible team and a coaching change and didn't use him correctly wasn't his problem. That the coach dropped him from 238 touches to 139 to 12 was NOT Miller's fault. notacon cannot seem to comprehend such things, making him a loud-mouthed idiot.

    In 1980 Joe Cribbs came in as a rookie. In 1979, Chuck Knox spread out the touches between Miller, Curtis Brown and Roland Hooks.
    It isn't about blame, it's about production. Yes he had a good rookie year, but it went down hill quickly. His career path isn't that different from Trent Richardson...or draft status...and I think most would consider him a bust.

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    Terry Miller was the first 1000+ yard RB to the Bills after OJ left - back when that was a huge deal. And he did it as a rookie. So, yes, you are an idiot. The fans loved him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Wrong. Again, he showed what he did right out of the draft (which Josh Allen has not). That the Bills had a terrible team and a coaching change and didn't use him correctly wasn't his problem. That the coach dropped him from 238 touches to 139 to 12 was NOT Miller's fault. notacon cannot seem to comprehend such things, making him a loud-mouthed idiot.

    In 1980 Joe Cribbs came in as a rookie. In 1979, Chuck Knox spread out the touches between Miller, Curtis Brown and Roland Hooks.
    Such hostility and anger.

    No, the fans did not "love him". And no...one season of 1,000 is not worth the fifth overall pick. His career was terrible.

    Terry Miller's crappy career would have him a bust if was picked in any of the first three rounds...much less the 1st round...and MUCH LESS the 5th overall pick.

    Sorry...you are just wrong. Take off your "I hate nottie" hat and use your common sense.

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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

    Olsen was the color analyst for the XFL game in Houston yesterday.

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    Re: Greg Olsen making Buffalo his first free agent visit

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    There was a HUGE amount of anticipation when they drafted Miller, he never did pan out.
    Yeah, there most certainly was. I was beginning high school at the time and I wanted him on the Bills badly.

    The guy 2nd in the Heisman his senior year and expectations were really high. If he wasn't looked at as a replacement for OJ, he was seen as a reasonable replacement. Much of the Electric Company was still there and Chuck Knox just came in. He was going to be a missing piece for the O.

    I remember an older cousin coming in from college on break and stopping over the house (pre internet/espn days)...and asking, "how's the Miller guy doing"? I remember both me and my father saying, "he's not exactly setting the NFL on fire".

    I remember him having a big game late in the season which kind of skewed his stats. I went back and looked at the game logs from that year.

    A full 1/3 of his yards came in 2 games, late in the season, against pretty bad teams. Most of his games were 40-60 yard games with less than a 4.0 ypc. average.

    He was a huge disappointment to me after his college career. Maybe its like someone else said, his heart wasn't in it.

    I just knew 2 years later, watching Joe Cribbs' first game as a Bill, that it was the end of the Terry Miller era in Buffalo. Cribbs ran with purpose.

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