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    Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Talking with a buddy about the schedule, we came up with an interesting take.

    People are talking about beating the jets and dolphins doesn’t mean much, but if you look at all the successful teams around the league over the years, Espcially the pats. They almost never lose the games they are suppose to win. That’s something that has plagued the bills over the years. They would lose to much inferior teams. When you win all the games you should win, you really only have to go 500 or so agaisnt the good teams. Some people expect 16-0 and really if you go 11-5 or 12-4. That means you lost 5 games... I can see it now if they lose to the rams. The sky will be falling for some people. Obviously it would be great to win. But by no means is this a must win.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    The Rams have a good team, we are better.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skooby View Post
    The Rams have a good team, we are better.
    If both Milano and Edmunds play on Sunday, then I think we have a slight advantage, maybe 55% chance the Bills win IMHO. ))

    The Rams are looking good, and have done well against a slightly tougher schedule so far?

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skooby View Post
    The Rams have a good team, we are better.
    we'll see. They're pretty damn good. Just like us. And they have a great head coach. Just like us.

    We could really use a big assist from the governor on this one...
    All Hail Josh Allen! Savior of the Buffalo Bills!

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    Crappy logo redesign... bills win simply because the Ram players are embarrassed. Like a bad haircut in 7th grade right before the dance.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Disagree.

    Even in the Pats' best years, they often struggled with the Dolphins. Even in our bad years, we still usually beat the teams we were supposed to beat. The problem is that most teams were better than us and we weren't expected to beat them.

    This team's problem is that they're bottom feeders. They beat the Jets and Dolphins of the world but struggle against the good teams. Last year, we were 1-5 against teams that finished over .500, and the only team we beat was the Titans when they were still starting Mariota. Until we can actually beat the good teams, what you see is what you get. If we get a lot of help like 2017, or an easy schedule like 2019, we'll make the playoffs and lose in the first round.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Disagree.

    Even in the Pats' best years, they often struggled with the Dolphins. Even in our bad years, we still usually beat the teams we were supposed to beat. The problem is that most teams were better than us and we weren't expected to beat them.

    This team's problem is that they're bottom feeders. They beat the Jets and Dolphins of the world but struggle against the good teams. Last year, we were 1-5 against teams that finished over .500, and the only team we beat was the Titans when they were still starting Mariota. Until we can actually beat the good teams, what you see is what you get. If we get a lot of help like 2017, or an easy schedule like 2019, we'll make the playoffs and lose in the first round.
    This is this year. Reflecting on the past and projecting it forward again and again.

    even I am not the same as last year nor did I project myself to be.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    This is this year. Reflecting on the past and projecting it forward again and again.

    even I am not the same as last year nor did I project myself to be.
    the past like LAST SEASON?

    I'll believe this team can hang with the good teams if and only if they prove it. Given the amount of times this team was supposed to be better but wasn't, I don't know how any fan can think any differently.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Disagree.

    Even in the Pats' best years, they often struggled with the Dolphins. Even in our bad years, we still usually beat the teams we were supposed to beat. The problem is that most teams were better than us and we weren't expected to beat them.

    This team's problem is that they're bottom feeders. They beat the Jets and Dolphins of the world but struggle against the good teams. Last year, we were 1-5 against teams that finished over .500, and the only team we beat was the Titans when they were still starting Mariota. Until we can actually beat the good teams, what you see is what you get. If we get a lot of help like 2017, or an easy schedule like 2019, we'll make the playoffs and lose in the first round.
    The pats legit ONLY lost to the dolphins, almsot never lost to any other bad teams. Usualy won by more than 2 scores.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    the past like LAST SEASON?

    I'll believe this team can hang with the good teams if and only if they prove it. Given the amount of times this team was supposed to be better but wasn't, I don't know how any fan can think any differently.
    Yes the past LIKE LAST SEASON.

    last season cannot change and has zero to do with this season. Every player is different than last season some slower some better with experience some no longer ailing some still suck but at a different level. Opponents are different...

    the past does not predict the future. The past is a story the future is a dream or nightmare depending on one’s projecting.

    problem for us humans is we think but the only time we cannot think about is the present. Past reliving future projecting.

    if it was ever accurate then gambling would be either so easy or impossible.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
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    last season cannot change and has zero to do with this season.

    Haha! You're arguing with someone who thinks this team is the same team from 20 years ago.
    Pegulas team is still the same team as Donahoes.
    McD teams is still the same team as Jauron.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Yes the past LIKE LAST SEASON.

    last season cannot change and has zero to do with this season. Every player is different than last season some slower some better with experience some no longer ailing some still suck but at a different level. Opponents are different...

    the past does not predict the future. The past is a story the future is a dream or nightmare depending on one’s projecting.

    problem for us humans is we think but the only time we cannot think about is the present. Past reliving future projecting.

    if it was ever accurate then gambling would be either so easy or impossible.
    Last season has a lot to do with this season because we still have a lot of the same players and all the same coaches. It’s not a perfect indicator but it’s the best one we have. Last season, we couldn’t beat the good teams. Can we do it this season? I’ll believe it when I see it.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by justasportsfan View Post
    Haha! You're arguing with someone who thinks this team is the same team from 20 years ago.
    Pegulas team is still the same team as Donahoes.
    McD teams is still the same team as Jauron.
    Edmunds would always be a rookie or second year pro

    No player would ever hit their prime if all we did was use “last year” as truth.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Last season has a lot to do with this season because we still have a lot of the same players and all the same coaches. It’s not a perfect indicator but it’s the best one we have. Last season, we couldn’t beat the good teams. Can we do it this season? I’ll believe it when I see it.
    indicator isn’t truth. You’ll believe it when it is relegated to the past, obviously.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Disagree.

    Even in the Pats' best years, they often struggled with the Dolphins. Even in our bad years, we still usually beat the teams we were supposed to beat. The problem is that most teams were better than us and we weren't expected to beat them.

    This team's problem is that they're bottom feeders. They beat the Jets and Dolphins of the world but struggle against the good teams. Last year, we were 1-5 against teams that finished over .500, and the only team we beat was the Titans when they were still starting Mariota. Until we can actually beat the good teams, what you see is what you get. If we get a lot of help like 2017, or an easy schedule like 2019, we'll make the playoffs and lose in the first round.
    As much as I respect your pessimism, and understand the perspective, you're kind of trying too hard.

    It's silly to disagree with "good teams beat who they are supposed to".

    The Pats absolutely did, whether or not they struggled doing it. The Bills didn't, besides short stretches when they flirted with average, there's not even a "usually" to it.
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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    As much as I respect your pessimism, and understand the perspective, you're kind of trying too hard.

    It's silly to disagree with "good teams beat who they are supposed to".

    The Pats absolutely did, whether or not they struggled doing it. The Bills didn't, besides short stretches when they flirted with average, there's not even a "usually" to it.
    Of course good teams beat who they are supposed to. But it be a good team, you have to beat the other good teams too, not just the teams you are supposed to beat. We beat everyone we were supposed to beat last year except the Browns and the Jets, and the Jets game doesn’t really count because we were resting starters. We still weren’t a good team because we didn’t beat any good teams and it showed in the playoffs.
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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    I'm never sure I have the other teams figured out.

    So I take every win as earned and not " avoiding an upset "
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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Opie has personal problems, so we'll have to be patient with him.

    He obviously has self-imposed defense mechanisms. Doesn't want to damage himself by having hope, and seeing those hopes dashed.

    Things change, but Opie doesn't really want that. Change is too scary, I guess.

    What we have here in Buffalo is not a bad football team. You'd think anybody would have a wait-and-see attitude at the very least. Let it play out without prejudice against the guys you supposedly are rooting for...

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by feldspar View Post
    Opie has personal problems, so we'll have to be patient with him.

    He obviously has self-imposed defense mechanisms. Doesn't want to damage himself by having hope, and seeing those hopes dashed.

    Things change, but Opie doesn't really want that. Change is too scary, I guess.

    What we have here in Buffalo is not a bad football team. You'd think anybody would have a wait-and-see attitude at the very least. Let it play out without prejudice against the guys you supposedly are rooting for...
    he'd rather be right than see the bills succeed.

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    Re: Beat who they are “suppose” to beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by feldspar View Post
    Opie has personal problems, so we'll have to be patient with him.

    He obviously has self-imposed defense mechanisms. Doesn't want to damage himself by having hope, and seeing those hopes dashed.

    Things change, but Opie doesn't really want that. Change is too scary, I guess.

    What we have here in Buffalo is not a bad football team. You'd think anybody would have a wait-and-see attitude at the very least. Let it play out without prejudice against the guys you supposedly are rooting for...
    What the hell are you babbling about?

    I said I'll believe they can do it when they prove it. How is that any different than "wait and see?"

    I mean, for ****'s sake, with all the times this team was supposed to be good but wasn't, I'd expect people to be understanding of the "I'll believe it when they prove it" mentality. It really shouldn't be that controversial around here.

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