Jordan Phillips is one of the most important pieces to our passrush

[Cali512]

Dude nearly had 4 sacks. Him coming through the middle with Rousseau and Miller on the outside should not be understated. He has the skill to be a top 5 DT in this defense. This passrush looked exactly like it did in 2019. He is an insanely good pass rusher. Something about this defense fits him so incredibly well

[Novacane]

I don't know what it is about Buffalo. He's was just average in AZ. This defense looked great.

[Gibby 2.0]

One of Beane's worst moves was letting him and those 10 sacks he had in 19 go. So glad he is back.

[Cali512]

I don't know what it is about Buffalo. He's was just average in AZ. This defense looked great.

He was standing up, playing on the end, and in the middle. He is so ****ing valuable to have and i think he controlled his temperament finally because thats his only weakness in this defense

[notacon]

The defense TEAM looked great. And the D-line’s constant changing of players and DEPTH is “one of the most important pieces to our pass rush”.

Here are the snap counts for the eight D-lineman....

Von Miller - 52.24%
Rosseau - 67.16%
Epenesa - 53.73%
Phillips - 52.24%
Basham - 38.81%
Jones - 68.66%
Settle - 41.79%
Oliver - 25.37%


This is a recipe for dominance. The “backups” (Phillips, Basham, Epenesa & Settle) would be starters on the majority of NFL teams.

[Cali512]

The defense TEAM looked great. And the D-line’s constant changing of players and DEPTH is “one of the most important pieces to our pass rush”.

Here are the snap counts for the eight D-lineman....

Von Miller - 52.24%
Rosseau - 67.16%
Epenesa - 53.73%
Phillips - 52.24%
Basham - 38.81%
Jones - 68.66%
Settle - 41.79%
Oliver - 25.37%


This is a recipe for dominance. The “backups” (Phillips, Basham, Epenesa & Settle) would be starters on the majority of NFL teams.

I feel like your trying to disagree with me in a weird way


Im saying Phillips is one of the best in the game and when he plays our defense is maximized. Your trying to be sneaky in your disagreement that hes one of the biggest pieces to our defense. Is that because it makes your boy from the 9th most important piece to the 10th??

Something feels off about your response. I feel like i know what it is

[Woodman]

It's just a great rotation system .... stay fresh kick ass.

[notacon]

I feel like your trying to disagree with me in a weird way


Im saying Phillips is one of the best in the game and when he plays our defense is maximized. Your trying to be sneaky in your disagreement that hes one of the biggest pieces to our defense. Is that because it makes your boy from the 9th most important piece to the 10th??

Something feels off about your response. I feel like i know what it is

I’m not being “sneaky” or “trying” to disagree with your opinion and in no way is it in “a weird” way.

I am clearly disagreeing with it. You are actually ignoring your own observation when you say "Something about this defense fits him so incredibly well” which is the whole point.

It’s a TEAM defense and a collection of eight different players that compliment each other in a way that is designed and play calls are (in concert with what the other position groups in the defense, LB, CB’s & S) game planned to accomplish.

And with the injury to Ed Oliver, Boogie Basham filled in at DT playing nine snaps on the inside so to maintain a rotation to keep Daquan Jones, Philips and Settle fresh. Basham filling in for a position that is not usual for him, contributes to the overall success of the D-line.

The depth of the D-line is what is “most important” and the way DC Frazier implements their strengths in relation to the strengths and weaknesses of the Rams O-line (in this game) is what makes it jell.

In other words, to the extent that Phillips is effective is attributed as much to what the other members of the defense is doing, as much as the defensive scheme and as much as his own individual skill....and the skill level among all eight D-lineman even surprised (how well they played as a group) some of the players....like McKenzie who mentioned that fact in his podcast. (Specifically he talks about the D-line at that 18:30 mark)

[Cali512]

I’m not being “sneaky” or “trying” to disagree with your opinion and in no way is it in “a weird” way.

I am clearly disagreeing with it. You are actually ignoring your own observation when you say "Something about this defense fits him so incredibly well” which is the whole point.

It’s a TEAM defense and a collection of eight different players that compliment each other in a way that is designed and play calls are (in concert with what the other position groups in the defense, LB, CB’s & S) game planned to accomplish.

And with the injury to Ed Oliver, Boogie Basham filled in at DT playing nine snaps on the inside so to maintain a rotation to keep Daquan Jones, Philips and Settle fresh. Basham filling in for a position that is not usual for him, contributes to the overall success of the D-line.

The depth of the D-line is what is “most important” and the way DC Frazier implements their strengths in relation to the strengths and weaknesses of the Rams O-line (in this game) is what makes it jell.

In other words, to the extent that Phillips is effective is attributed as much to what the other members of the defense is doing, as much as the defensive scheme and as much as his own individual skill....and the skill level among all eight D-lineman even surprised (how well they played as a group) some of the players....like McKenzie who mentioned that fact in his podcast. (Specifically he talks about the D-line at that 18:30 mark)

ROFL

what a disgusting and repulsive take, LOL. Your post is ridiculous and comical ROFL


Uh huh

[Mace]

I think Phillips is a perfect fit here, brings some mean, and he has a knack of rising to the moment here. Imho, he's a critical, underrated add to this defense, though I can't imagine we'll be able to keep him.

[sukie]

I think Phillips is a perfect fit here, brings some mean, and he has a knack of rising to the moment here. Imho, he's a critical, underrated add to this defense, though I can't imagine we'll be able to keep him.

We couldn’t keep him before and he signed for big scratch only to bust all over the place and be released… I think he loves Buffalo and wants to collect hardware.

[Cali512]

I think Phillips is a perfect fit here, brings some mean, and he has a knack of rising to the moment here. Imho, he's a critical, underrated add to this defense, though I can't imagine we'll be able to keep him.

We havent had a DT who consistently gets into the backfield like he does. Oliver is great, but he doesnt clog the middle and bully guards like Phillips does. He reminds me of Haynesworth when he was good.


I understand the rotation is great, but all im saying is having Phillips on the field maximizes our defense. And yes the rotation is great at keeping him fresh. On passing downs, having Rousseau/Oliver/Phillip/Von on the field is legit unfair to the offense


Milano and Edmunds are great at playing sideline to sideline, and we have 5 DBs on the field. So the middle is getting pressure, outside is getting pressue, Edmunds and milano control dumpoffs, and our DBs are very good to great. There is no weakness


Last year i felt like our defense feasted on bad QBs and average RBs. I have confidence that when we play Mahomes, Lamar, Mahomes, Burrow, well be ready and get consistent pressure

[Mace]

We couldn’t keep him before and he signed for big scratch only to bust all over the place and be released… I think he loves Buffalo and wants to collect hardware.

I'm more than fine with it. Here.....he'a a wrecker. Don't care why. Collect the hardware, sign him every other year with a prove it deal, gimme results. He has.

[Cali512]

I'm more than fine with it. Here.....he'a a wrecker. Don't care why. Collect the hardware, sign him every other year with a prove it deal, gimme results. He has.

I would prioritize him over Oliver tbh. But the benefit we have is that hes seen the alternative and it wasnt great. so hes at the mercy of our team


But oliver needs to be careful and see what happened to Phillips because Oliver never had a season like phillips when we let him go. The grass isnt always greener on the other side and we can easily roll with Jones, settle, and phillips if oliver wants to play that game

[notacon]

ROFL

what a disgusting and repulsive take, LOL. Your post is ridiculous and comical ROFL


Uh huh

A "disgusting and repulsive take?!?!?!? Seriously???? I can't help it if your takes are just plain dumb.


Funny, but you “guaranteed” that Jamison Crowder was going to be cut. Instead, he was a significant contributor at the slot position. Sorry if you show time and time again that your observations and analysis are shallow and sometimes, nonsensical.

Jesus. Grow the **** up.

[Cali512]

A "disgusting and repulsive take?!?!?!? Seriously???? I can't help it if your takes are just plain dumb.


Funny, but you “guaranteed” that Jamison Crowder was going to be cut. Instead, he was a significant contributor at the slot position. Sorry if you show time and time again that your observations and analysis are shallow and sometimes, nonsensical.

Jesus. Grow the **** up.

Such a *****. I literally just treated you the way you treat everyone on this site and you couldnt handle it. I intentionally used the words that you use against everyone else around here


Man up man, your to old to act like this. If you cant handle it, maybe quit treating everyone on this site like **** bro. If your not man enough to handle it, then quit talking to people like your above everyone. Its not cute and you just proved you cant handle it when its said to you


Im going to continue to do it to until you learn your lesson because the way you talk to people around here is "repulsive" and "disgusting"

I think its good for you to see how you treat people, maybe youll grow the **** up and quit

[swiper]

What stood out to me was the stupid penalty he took. Like he always did last time he was here. He made up for it, but he's gotta stop that.

[Forward_Lateral]

I thought the entire D-line played awesome. The middle of the line has certainly upgraded over last year.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Jordan Philips is from the Kansas City area. But his girlfriend is a former UB lacrosse player from the Buffalo area and they have a kid together. That's the reason why he's often in Buffalo even when he was playing for the Cardinals.

The guy was drafted in 2nd round for a reason: a big man (320+ lb) with quickness of a 260 - 280 lb guy. Oliver is a 280 - 290 lb guy that's more explosive off the first step with power in Aaron Donald mold. I'll caution big does not equal power. Donald is about 290lb but he's universally recognized as one of the strongest D-Line guy.

Philips game is fairly uneven. He has bigger games than last Thursday before, but he also has (sometimes long) stretch of games of doing nothing. So it is an over-reaction just based on a game or two. Not a good reputation of disciplined like staying in his gaps etc. There is a reason he was released by the Dolphins before his rookie contract ran out, and why McDermott and Beane did not put him at a high enough priority to resign back then, even though the team needed a 3-tech DT badly.

If it was up to me, Ed Oliver is the one you go after. Younger and has improved every year. You will be surprised to know how many D-Line men never really study the film other than looking for tendencies of O-Lineman they are going face; that's because winning one-on-one battle, sometime one-on-two, has always been the big thing for them. But in interviews last year, Oliver mentioned he learned how to study films etc. and this year, he even sounded like Dequan Jones in saying you need to figure out quickly what they (offense) are trying to do in order to fight them. That sounded so much more than then the dumbed down answer of "staying in your lane/gap".

Of course if Josh Allen and the offense continue to perform like they did last Thursday, those D-Line can afford to play dumb: just go after the QB. Like yesterday's Chiefs and Cards game, I'm not a Cards fan but I know the feeling because during Brady's heydays in Buffalo, every drive we don't score a TD, it feels like we'll be down another 7 points and they are going to tee off on our QB ...

[Cali512]

Jordan Philips is from the Kansas City area. But his girlfriend is a former UB lacrosse player from the Buffalo area and they have a kid together. That's the reason why he's often in Buffalo even when he was playing for the Cardinals.

The guy was drafted in 2nd round for a reason: a big man (320+ lb) with quickness of a 260 - 280 lb guy. Oliver is a 280 - 290 lb guy that's more explosive off the first step with power in Aaron Donald mold. I'll caution big does not equal power. Donald is about 290lb but he's universally recognized as one of the strongest D-Line guy.

Philips game is fairly uneven. He has bigger games than last Thursday before, but he also has (sometimes long) stretch of games of doing nothing. So it is an over-reaction just based on a game or two. Not a good reputation of disciplined like staying in his gaps etc. There is a reason he was released by the Dolphins before his rookie contract ran out, and why McDermott and Beane did not put him at a high enough priority to resign back then, even though the team needed a 3-tech DT badly.

If it was up to me, Ed Oliver is the one you go after. Younger and has improved every year. You will be surprised to know how many D-Line men never really study the film other than looking for tendencies of O-Lineman they are going face; that's because winning one-on-one battle, sometime one-on-two, has always been the big thing for them. But in interviews last year, Oliver mentioned he learned how to study films etc. and this year, he even sounded like Dequan Jones in saying you need to figure out quickly what they (offense) are trying to do in order to fight them. That sounded so much more than then the dumbed down answer of "staying in your lane/gap".

Of course if Josh Allen and the offense continue to perform like they did last Thursday, those D-Line can afford to play dumb: just go after the QB. Like yesterday's Chiefs and Cards game, I'm not a Cards fan but I know the feeling because during Brady's heydays in Buffalo, every drive we don't score a TD, it feels like we'll be down another 7 points and they are going to tee off on our QB ...

I think Oliver needs to see what happened with Phillips as a warning. I honestly think he could be expendable if his price tag gets to high

And i have to be honest, after seeing the micd up, and just trying to keep an open mind. I sort of want us to keep edmunds. He seems to be more vocal this year, idk if he bulked up, but he looks bigger, and i think having a consistent pass rush around his will help him not be exposed. He didnt seem to be over thinking. Ill set a standard. If he hits 5+ sacks and 120+ tackles, ill want him resigned over oliver