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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    Who did you want them to rotate in? Guys in the concession stand?
    They could have pulled up another offensive lineman from the practice squad and started the rotation from the beginning. Even with the eight they dressed they could have done a rotation out of the gate.
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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    They could have pulled up another offensive lineman from the practice squad and started the rotation from the beginning. Even with the eight they dressed they could have done a rotation out of the gate.
    Was there anybody that we could of deactivated yesterday to make room for another OL? Pretty much everybody had to play due to the heat injuries.
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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Was there anybody that we could of deactivated yesterday to make room for another OL? Pretty much everybody had to play due to the heat injuries.
    I haven't seen the snap counts yet but considering priorities Moss, Cook, TJones or Matakevitch come to mind without thinking too hard.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    I haven't seen the snap counts yet but considering priorities Moss, Cook, TJones or Matakevitch come to mind without thinking too hard.
    Who would play special teams???

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    I haven't seen the snap counts yet but considering priorities Moss, Cook, TJones or Matakevitch come to mind without thinking too hard.
    Moss had our best run and Cook had his best game yet. I’m not opposed to Jones or Matakevitch, but McDermott will never do that.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    How the hell can we be favorites to win the SB when we can't even get a yard on the ground behind our OLine? People are hoping Beane notices this season???????

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    How the hell can we be favorites to win the SB when we can't even get a yard on the ground behind our OLine? People are hoping Beane notices this season???????
    Beane hasn't noticed before.

    He won't this year either.

    Beane has always fundamentally undervalued the importance of the 5 player OL.

    Unfortunately, that will not change going forward.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    It’s early in the season.

    It was friggin hot.

    Any given Sunday…

    I’m not at all worried.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    Who would play special teams???
    They wouldn't all be inactive, just one to make room for another lineman. Could be Moss or Cook. Who played special teams when Kumerow was ruled out?

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Moss had our best run and Cook had his best game yet. I’m not opposed to Jones or Matakevitch, but McDermott will never do that.
    They've always gone light at RB. I don't think one single run in three games makes Moss a 'gotta have' on game day.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Moss is awful.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    Bates should be the one playing Center, if Morse is hurt, IMO. Van Roten stinks. Mancz did ok, I think, but I'm not sure. Hard to tell when the RG and RT are getting beat instantly
    What I read somewhere (I can’t remember where) was that the Bills thinking was to keep moving players out of their usual position to a minimum.

    Who knows if that (putting Bates at C and who knows at RG) would have been better, or worse.

    Many of us here were talking about the need for interior O-line help in the draft. Beane did not agree, or there was just nothing worthwhile, and instead spent a late pick (30th pick in round 6) on T Luke Tenuta, which they released at final cuts. He was picked up on waivers by Indy and is listed as third string T.

    Interesting that in the same 6th round, the Bills grabbed who may be the unfinished gem of the 2022 draft, Christian Benford at #6.

    For some reason, Beane has screwed up drafting interior O-linemen. He has this shaky record.....

    2017 - drafted Dion Dawkins, 2nd pick, round 2, who entered the draft at G, but was quickly moved to T. The Bills never envisioned him at G.
    2018 - drafted Wyatt Teller, 29th pick, round 5....and traded him to become a star in Cleveland - probably Beane’s worst purging of talent.
    2019 - drafted Cody Ford, 6th pick, round 2....probably Beane’s worse draft whiff....Ford is a bust.
    2020 - Ignored the G position in draft.
    2021 - drafted Jack Anderson, 8th pick, round 7, the Bills last selection and has kicked around the league and is now 3rd stringer G on NYG.
    2022 - Ignored the G position in draft.

    I suspect that interior O-line will be a bigger priority in 2023. And if it isn’t it should be.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
    The bills got their running game going at the end of last year

    what did they do then that they aren’t doing now?

    i was hoping the kromer addition would booster that seeing the success they had running the ball (albeit with different personnel) the last time he was here. Thoughts?
    It’s only three weeks into the season.

    In those three games, the Bills have out gained their opposition in rushing yards. Even when you take out Josh Allen’s runs. The Miami game was the worst in that they only out-gained Miami because of one long run by Moss.

    Just like the Titans out ran the Bills last year, mainly because of one long run by Henry. And Tennessee is a run first team. But, Miami’s total rushing yards were only 41. Bills gained 115.

    The fact is that rushing the ball is not the priority nor a winning strategy for today’s offenses. The Buffalo Bills are a pass first offense.....and their strategy is to use the short pass just like a run.

    And last last year, the “Bills got their running game going” because of two factors....Josh Allen running he ball, and inferior opponents.

    Josh was the leading rusher for the Bills in three of the final six regular season games. The three that Singetary was the #1 rusher, where against Carolina, Atlanta and NYJ.

    With that said, the Bills need to improve their rushing game. It’s a long season.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    So Nottie are you saying you agree our OL sucks?

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by TheConsigliere View Post
    Beane hasn't noticed before.

    He won't this year either.

    Beane has always fundamentally undervalued the importance of the 5 player OL.

    Unfortunately, that will not change going forward.
    Is that Beane or McDermott?

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by TheConsigliere View Post
    So Nottie are you saying you agree our OL sucks?
    They only had two starters play the whole game.

    Imagine if you will, that Michael was overcome by a poorly prepared sauce, and it was necessary to send Fredo to address Sollozzo. Surely this would not have ended well.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    They only had two starters play the whole game.

    Imagine if you will, that Michael was overcome by a poorly prepared sauce, and it was necessary to send Fredo to address Sollozzo. Surely this would not have ended well.
    The sauce would have have had horse meat in it.

    Very gamey.

    However, if all you had to make sauce was horse rather than beef, veal and pork (oh that last one is where the flavour is) than the sauce isn't going to be that good.

    Beane only gave the Bills horse for the OL sauce.

    No beef, veal and the all important pork.



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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    Is that Beane or McDermott?
    Beane chooses the players no?

    He gets input however he is the GM and chooses the ingredients for the team.

    McD is the chef.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Quote Originally Posted by TheConsigliere View Post
    Beane chooses the players no?

    He gets input however he is the GM and chooses the ingredients for the team.

    McD is the chef.
    Don't think it works that way. McDermott is feeding Beane with what he needs to make his system plan work best. Beane is more McDermott's mechanism to connect with everything that is out there to be acquired. They both have a lot of input and are working together....but the makeup of the team is in McDermott's wheelhouse not Beane's. What can and can't be gotten and is and isn't acquired is what Beane owns.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    I still hate our OL.

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    Re: I Hate Our OL

    Beane needs to seriously consider hiring an O-line consultant/scout. He's been terrible at drafting and signing O-line. Admit you stink at it, and hire someone who's good at it.

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