"Lamar Jackson will prove to Josh Allen who is MVP"
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I think Frazier has him pegged, I hope that's still the case. Time to bring him back down to earth again.YardRat Wall of Fame
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Re: "Lamar Jackson will prove to Josh Allen who is MVP"
Originally posted by YardRat View PostI think Frazier has him pegged, I hope that's still the case. Time to bring him back down to earth again.
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There is a chance that Poyer Oliver and Jackson will be back. That will help a great deal.I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.
I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.
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Jackson is one hell of an athlete. I'll give him that. His passing has been good this year, but it has been hit or miss over his career. It's going to take more than 3 games to convince me that he can be a consistently good passer, especially since one of those games was against the Fish, who are 31st in pass D in the league (FWIW, Baltimore is dead last).
I do think there's one huge similarity between Allen and Jackson: Both teams rely way too much on them and it'll probably shorten their careers.
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Originally posted by OpIv37 View PostJackson is one hell of an athlete. I'll give him that. His passing has been good this year, but it has been hit or miss over his career. It's going to take more than 3 games to convince me that he can be a consistently good passer, especially since one of those games was against the Fish, who are 31st in pass D in the league (FWIW, Baltimore is dead last).
I do think there's one huge similarity between Allen and Jackson: Both teams rely way too much on them and it'll probably shorten their careers.
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Both Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are unicorn talents.
If the argument is about who is more likely to win MVP (or worse yet, Lamar’s contract)....I say....who cares??? If Lamar wins MVP this year, but Josh Allen is holding the Vince Lombardi trophy on Feb 12, 2023....I’d much rather have the Lombardi. And I suspect both Lamar and Josh would prefer.
A very interesting ESPN article yesterday ranking the “best QB combos in NFL draft history".....had Allen and Jackson #3.....
No. 1: John Elway and Dan Marino, 1983
No. 2: Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning, 2004
No. 3: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, 2018
Ranking Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson this high requires faith in their ability to produce in the postseason, but there's no denying the two have already emerged as elite players in their young careers. Jackson has won an MVP award and led the NFL in passing touchdowns (36 in 2019) while also torching defenses as a runner. He has twice rushed for more than 1,000 yards in a season. And Allen has seemingly gotten better and better. He's currently the favorite to win MVP this season. He has accounted for 145 total touchdowns, and his completion percentage has jumped from 52.8% as a rookie to 71.2% this season.
If how this duo has changed the game with their downfield throwing and running ability is any indication of where they're headed, then both look like future Hall of Famers and multiple MVP winners. Ranking them ahead of proven winners like Joe Montana, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees might ruffle some feathers, but it's that potential that puts them this high on the list. -- Miller
Allen's path: After receiving no offers from Division I programs, and then going from starting at a junior college -- Reedley College -- for one year to Wyoming, there were major concerns about Allen's ability to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. Part of the skepticism was because of his lack of accuracy (he completed 56.2% of his passes in three years at Wyoming). Despite that, a series of trades were required for the Bills to move up to select Allen seventh overall, including a draft-day trade with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to move up from No. 12. Allen has since set countless Bills records, greatly improved his accuracy and signed a six-year extension through 2028. -- Alaina Getzenberg
Jackson's path: The Ravens traded down twice in the first round to get tight end Hayden Hurst, then made the bold move to trade back into the first round to get the free-falling Jackson, sending three picks (two second-round selections and a fourth-rounder) to the Eagles to acquire the No. 32 overall pick. But Jackson's path to Baltimore started two weeks before the draft. Ravens coach John Harbaugh stood up in a pre-draft meeting and said the team could build an offense around Jackson to fit his dual-threat talent. -- Jamison Hensley
No. 4: Phil Simms and Joe Montana, 1979
No. 5: Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson, 2017
No. 6: Michael Vick and Drew Brees, 2001
No. 7: Peyton Manning and Matt Hasselbeck, 1998
No. 8: Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers, 2005
No. 9: Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins, 2012
No. 10: Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert, 2020
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Re: "Lamar Jackson will prove to Josh Allen who is MVP"
Originally posted by YardRat View PostI think Frazier has him pegged, I hope that's still the case. Time to bring him back down to earth again.My wife told me that if I had a dollar for every girl who found me unattractive, girls would find me VERY attractive.
MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!
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Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Postpretty sure we bottled him up rather well playing 3 deep against him the last two times.
There is every indiction that Jackson is an improved QB. He is always a running threat, but what’s different now is he is growing into a lethal passer as well. He is much less likely to make the mistake he made against the Bills in the 2020 playoff game
The matchup that favors the Bills is the Baltimore defense has sucked so far this year. They have been allowing massive numbers of yards. Ranked #32 in total yards allowed....#32 in passing yards allowed....#13 in rushing yards allowed (but the Bills are not a rushing team).....#25 in points allowed.
If this game turns into a high scoring offensive game, it strongly favors the Bills.
But, yes, your and YardRat’s observations are spot on.....the Bills are more likely to slow down Lamar and the Raven’s offense than most teams, and Frazier seems to have his number.
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