Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 52

Thread: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

  1. #1
    We play to win the game! BuffaloBlitz83's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    5,231
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked 661 Times in 375 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    25

    Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    https://twitter.com/ChrisNowinski1/s...59558613172224

    This is a disaster. Pray for Tua. Fire the medical staffs and coaches. I predicted this and I hate that I am right. Two concussions in 5 days can kill someone. This can end careers. How are we so stupid in 2022.

  2. #2
    Do you read what you write? Oaf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Grand Rapids
    Posts
    5,953
    Thanks
    1,045
    Thanked 814 Times in 475 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    29

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    As a table-breaking member of #billsmafia I hate what just happened and hate our part in it with Milano's late shove last week. Literally career, even life-threatening. Kid did not deserve this after getting his career on track as he has. Devastating. Praying for him.

  3. #3
    Registered User Novacane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Dade City, FL
    Posts
    37,701
    Thanks
    11,750
    Thanked 10,612 Times in 6,106 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    117

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Someone at the NFL should be fired too. Their little fake "investigation" this week was a joke.

  4. Post thanked by:

    Cntrygal (09-29-2022),kgun12 (09-29-2022)

  5. #4
    Registered User Mike13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Miami FL
    Posts
    8,473
    Thanks
    2,423
    Thanked 2,310 Times in 1,482 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    37

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Man I wanted to believe it was just a back injury, **** this team for lying about that

  6. Post thanked by:

    DraftBoy (09-30-2022),kgun12 (09-29-2022),kscdogbillsfan1221 (09-29-2022),mightysimi (10-03-2022),tomz (09-30-2022)

  7. #5
    Legendary Zoner Woodman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    45,351
    Thanks
    4,798
    Thanked 5,977 Times in 4,759 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    134

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Someone at the NFL should be fired too. Their little fake "investigation" this week was a joke.
    Just so much bull****.
    The Next Three


    12/01 @ Patriots

    8:15 pm VICTORY
    12/11 JETS

    1:00 pm
    12/18 DOLPHINS

    TBD

  8. #6
    Registered User Novacane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Dade City, FL
    Posts
    37,701
    Thanks
    11,750
    Thanked 10,612 Times in 6,106 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    117

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike13 View Post
    Man I wanted to believe it was just a back injury, **** this team for lying about that
    How could you have seen how he acted after the Milano hit and believed that was a back injury? This isn't about hating the Dolphins. That was so obvious. He was wobbling around like a wee bull.

  9. Post thanked by:

    Cntrygal (09-29-2022)

  10. #7
    Registered User Mike13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Miami FL
    Posts
    8,473
    Thanks
    2,423
    Thanked 2,310 Times in 1,482 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    37

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    How could you have seen how he acted after the Milano hit and believed that was a back injury? This isn't about hating the Dolphins. That was so obvious. He was wobbling around like a wee bull.
    I was naive

  11. Post thanked by:

    kgun12 (09-30-2022)

  12. #8
    Legendary Zoner Woodman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    45,351
    Thanks
    4,798
    Thanked 5,977 Times in 4,759 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    134

    The investigation

    The investigation over Tua Tagovailoa re-entering Sunday’s game becomes much more important

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ore-important/

    Like most everyone reading this, I keep watching the game between the Dolphins and Bengals. But I’m far less focused on the action and far more interested in knowing whether Miami quarterback Tua Tagovailoa is OK.

    It’s great to hear — repeatedly — that he has movement in all extremities. But that only means he doesn’t have a neck injury. It doesn’t say anything about the injury to his brain.

  13. #9
    Registered User Mike13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Miami FL
    Posts
    8,473
    Thanks
    2,423
    Thanked 2,310 Times in 1,482 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    37

    Re: The investigation

    The NFLPA had the balls to say they care about player safety on Twitter

  14. #10
    Dances With Buffaloes Ingtar33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Posts
    14,265
    Thanks
    1,111
    Thanked 3,913 Times in 1,844 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    61

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike13 View Post
    Man I wanted to believe it was just a back injury, **** this team for lying about that
    I'm not going to say "told you so"; as a fan of a team I know how much you want to believe what they said is true. This isn't the dolphins fan's fault. We don't know what happened last week either. I do have a suspicion about what happened last week though. Take this with a spoon of salt but...

    Tua was rushed into the locker room after he wobbled half carried by the dolphins medical staff. Why does this matter? because the NFL concussion protocol "tents" are on the sidelines; by taking him to the locker room they bought him 5-15 minutes before a protocol doctor could see him and test him. Now a minor concussion can have its symptoms mostly vanish in a few minutes, it's why some people wobble on the field from what appears to be a head injury, only for them to leave the tent and return to the field minutes later. You never know. Considering Tua's behavior and play after the Milano hit, I'm willing to believe it was a minor concussion. I've had those too, and you can seemingly recover from them in moments-minutes, and be largely symptom free for a few hours (though i've had some intense headaches a day later).

    So I believe he probably did pass the NFL concussion protocol because the protocol is not sufficient enough to protect players from themselves.

    I also think the Dolphins rushed him to the locker room because they wanted to avoid the concussion protocol tents on the sideline and buy him some time to clear his head.

    As for the back story? Who knows, he might have tweaked his back in the game. maybe a light sprain so it may not even have been a lie. But his stumble from milano's shove was clearly a sign of a concussion not a back problem, tua never reaches for his back or leg on that play, it's obvious it's a head thing because he even shakes his head to clear the cobwebs.

    Now the milano concussion obviously was minor, but the problem is, according to every sports medicine doctor i've ever talked to, players should be withheld from contact for 7-10 days after ANY concussion. So by covering it up, or even lying to themselves it wasn't a concussion, the dolphins put tua in massive danger tonight. just 4 days after a concussion.

    I'm glad he's good enough to fly back with his team, that tells me this was a moderate concussion not a severe one, no matter how scary it looks (no doctor would let someone fly if it was a truly traumatic brain injury); I hope this time the team follows doctor guidance and errors on the side of caution and makes sure he is completely well before letting him play again.
    My wife told me that if I had a dollar for every girl who found me unattractive, girls would find me VERY attractive.

    MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!

  15. Post thanked by:

    Cntrygal (09-29-2022),John Doe (10-01-2022),kgun12 (09-30-2022),Mace (09-30-2022),Novacane (09-30-2022),TigerJ (09-30-2022)

  16. #11
    Registered User Forward_Lateral's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Sitting on a toilet tank near you.
    Posts
    27,839
    Thanks
    111
    Thanked 6,610 Times in 3,401 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    111

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    BuT wE cARe abOut PlaYEr SaFEty

  17. Post thanked by:

    Cntrygal (09-30-2022),kgun12 (09-30-2022)

  18. #12
    Registered User Forward_Lateral's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Sitting on a toilet tank near you.
    Posts
    27,839
    Thanks
    111
    Thanked 6,610 Times in 3,401 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    111

    Re: The investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike13 View Post
    The NFLPA had the balls to say they care about player safety on Twitter
    It's ALMOST as disgusting as the NFL saying it.

  19. #13
    Registered User kscdogbillsfan1221's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Muncie, Indiana
    Posts
    4,179
    Thanks
    654
    Thanked 3,018 Times in 1,543 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    25

    Re: The investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike13 View Post
    The NFLPA had the balls to say they care about player safety on Twitter
    aren't they the ones who started the investigation?
    I came.
    I saw.
    I conquered.

  20. #14
    Well, lookie here... YardRat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    A hole in your wall.
    Posts
    80,939
    Thanks
    28,076
    Thanked 28,506 Times in 16,112 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    229

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    I'm pretty sure the team violated the protocol the second they skipped the sideline and went right to the locker room. Any initial finding should be a no-brainer and confirmed immediately.
    YardRat Wall of Fame
    #56 DARRYL TALLEY
    #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS
    .

  21. Post thanked by:

    Cntrygal (09-30-2022),Jeff1220 (09-30-2022),Mace (09-30-2022)

  22. #15
    Registered User Forward_Lateral's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Sitting on a toilet tank near you.
    Posts
    27,839
    Thanks
    111
    Thanked 6,610 Times in 3,401 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    111

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    I'm pretty sure the team violated the protocol the second they skipped the sideline and went right to the locker room. Any initial finding should be a no-brainer and confirmed immediately.
    I'm not sure if this is the case, only because it was so close to halftime.

    Either way, the staff at the stadium completely screwed the pooch.

  23. #16
    Well, lookie here... YardRat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    A hole in your wall.
    Posts
    80,939
    Thanks
    28,076
    Thanked 28,506 Times in 16,112 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    229

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    I'm not sure if this is the case, only because it was so close to halftime.

    Either way, the staff at the stadium completely screwed the pooch.
    I don't think the time of the game matters, the initial exam is supposed to be given on the sideline.

    https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upl...fsivvia3ie.pdf

    Page 8..."the player must be removed immediately to the sideline or stabilized on the field......and the player must undergo the entire NFL Sideline Concussion Assessment."

    Language on prior pages details the requirement to have a UNC (Unaffiliated Neurotrauma Consultant) on each sideline and a third in the booth. As well as additional 'spotters' and the list of Potential Concussion Signs which includes "motor coordination/balance problems of neurologic etiology (stumbles, trips, falls, etc)."

    As soon as he wobbled he should been sent to the sideline for the examination, and it doesn't matter if the issue truly was his back or not. It's the UNC's responsibility to rule out concussion and send him to the locker room to have his back evaluated if that was the case.

  24. Post thanked by:

    Cntrygal (09-30-2022),Mace (09-30-2022)

  25. #17
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    27,758
    Thanks
    20,611
    Thanked 10,338 Times in 6,737 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    76

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    After the game, on Amazon Prime’s post game show, Andrew Whitworth told a story about a game in which he was concussed.

    Paraphrasing.....he said that his bell was rung and he knew it was a concussion. He went through the concussion protocol, but he said it’s pretty easy to get through that if you are not obviously dizzy and out of it.

    So....despite the fact that he knew he should not, he went back in the game, like big strong football players do.


    A TEAMMATE noticed that he was “not quite right”, told him so, and went to the coaches. They pulled him from the game.

    Andrew said that his teammate might have saved his life.

    The LAST person in the world that should be listened to in these situation is the player. They naturally WANT TO PLAY. And have every incentive to do that when they should not. Especially with a QB in Tua’s position, where the team has openly tried to replace him with Watson (and failed) and secretly tried to replace him with Tm Brady (and failed, but got caught for breaking the rules).

    This is a 'make it or you will be dumped' year for Tua. Miami had plenty of 2023 draft capital to grab a QB in the rich class of 2023....until they got caught tampering with Tom Brady. They have shown themselves capable of selling out the house to get what they want.

    After this season Miami must make a decision on whether to activate the fifth year option for Tua. With that history does anyone believe that Miami ownership would show him any loyalty if he stumbled at all this year?

    The motivation for Tua is to play....no matter what. So when Tua said that it was his back that mad him stable at the Bills game....no one should believe him.

    This whole situation is really, really bad for the NFL, and the NFLPA has got to do everything they can to protect players health. It remains to be seen if they can or will.
    Last edited by notacon; 09-30-2022 at 06:23 AM.

  26. Post thanked by:

    Cntrygal (09-30-2022),OpIv37 (09-30-2022)

  27. #18
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    OpIv37's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Baltimore, MD
    Posts
    97,568
    Thanks
    14,045
    Thanked 24,622 Times in 12,716 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    275

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    After the game, on Amazon Prime’s post game show, Andrew Whitworth told a story about a game in which he was concussed.

    Paraphrasing.....he said that his bell was rung and he knew it was a concussion. He went through the concussion protocol, but he said it’s pretty easy to get through that if you are not obviously dizzy and out of it.

    So....despite the fact that he knew he should not, he went back in the game, like big strong football players do.


    A TEAMMATE noticed that he was “not quite right”, told him so, and went to the coaches. They pulled him from the game.

    Andrew said that his teammate might have saved his life.

    The LAST person in the world that should be listened to in these situation is the player. They naturally WANT TO PLAY. And have every incentive to do that when they should not. Especially with a QB in Tua’s position, where the team has openly tried to replace him with Watson (and failed) and secretly tried to replace him with Tm Brady (and failed, but got caught for breaking the rules).

    This is a 'make it or you will be dumped' year for Tua. Miami had plenty of 2023 draft capital to grab a QB in the rich class of 2023....until they got caught tampering with Tom Brady. They have shown themselves capable of selling out the house to get what they want.

    After this season Miami must make a decision on whether to activate the fifth year option for Tua. With that history does anyone believe that Miami ownership would show him any loyalty if he stumbled at all this year?

    The motivation for Tua is to play....no matter what. So when Tua said that it was his back that mad him stable at the Bills game....no one should believe him.

    This whole situation is really, really bad for the NFL, and the NFLPA has got to do everything they can to protect players health. It remains to be seen if they can or will.
    Seriously.

    1. These guys are all highly competitive or they never would have made it to the NFL in the first place. If there's any way that they can play, they are going to do it.
    2. Many players have performance bonuses.
    3. There's a dozen back-ups on the team gunning for a starting spot who can't wait to take an injured player's place, and players do lose starting roles to injury.

    The player has every motivation to stay out there and will never take themselves out for a concussion.

  28. Post thanked by:

    notacon (10-01-2022)

  29. #19
    Registered User sukie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    17,784
    Thanks
    3,846
    Thanked 7,931 Times in 5,018 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    54

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Seriously.

    1. These guys are all highly competitive or they never would have made it to the NFL in the first place. If there's any way that they can play, they are going to do it.
    2. Many players have performance bonuses.
    3. There's a dozen back-ups on the team gunning for a starting spot who can't wait to take an injured player's place, and players do lose starting roles to injury.

    The player has every motivation to stay out there and will never take themselves out for a concussion.
    And these same players surely don’t aspire to become Herschel Walker.

  30. #20
    Haha...yeah you think so ? Mace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    18,937
    Thanks
    23,526
    Thanked 15,427 Times in 8,531 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    56

    Re: Wow shots fired by cte guru on Dolphins

    Maybe it's just me, but seems kind of odd they didn't keep him overnight. He went back on the team flight, just seems like a pretty short period of time to put him through a battery of tests at a medical facility after a fencing response upon injury.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •