The Bills Have a QB Problem

[Chet]

Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem

This dude is still content to die on the “it’s not the coach’s fault!” hill. You’ll see what’s up with Josh Allen once we get a real offensive coach back in the building. Till then, we can take solace in the fact that both our recently fired coordinators are/will be working at Carl’s Jr, since everybody sees they are garbage

[Chet]

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Go find another Josh Allen. You won’t find another QB like that in your lifetime—at least one willing to play in Buffalo.

It is a sin to waste his abilities with amateur coaching. Does he make mistakes, sometimes crippling ones? Yes, but nobody made more mistakes than Favre and he was a SB champ and a 3 time MVP. Get the right guy in here, not this ginger plank of wood that nobody respects anymore

[sahlensguy]

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The coaches f'd it all up.

Never coached with urgency and the clock struck 12 on JA.

[Historian]

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This dude is still content to die on the “it’s not the coach’s fault!” hill. You’ll see what’s up with Josh Allen once we get a real offensive coach back in the building. Till then, we can take solace in the fact that both our recently fired coordinators are/will be working at Carl’s Jr, since everybody sees they are garbage

You know, it does make me wonder though.

Dorsey was in over his head a bit to be sure.

However, it's possible that Josh missed his as his quarterback's coach.

Perhaps why he has regressed....even if the Bills were still essentially running the Dabol offense.

[notacon]

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This dude is still content to die on the “it’s not the coach’s fault!” hill. You’ll see what’s up with Josh Allen once we get a real offensive coach back in the building. Till then, we can take solace in the fact that both our recently fired coordinators are/will be working at Carl’s Jr, since everybody sees they are garbage

You have this repulsive habit of misrepresenting (read: lie) what DO I write. I did not say, that “it’s not the coach’s fault!”.

What I DID say is that Josh Allen is in the throes of a massive regression. HE is making the awful, inexcusable turnovers. HE is the one who can't even accomplish one of THE basic jobs of a QB....handing the ball off to a RB. HE is responsible for either missing his reads or just not caring and throwing the ball when and where it has no business being thrown.

In the same vein, the coaches do not have WR's dropping the ball on easy catches. The coaches are NOT FUMBLING the ball.

Are the coaches without ANY blame??? Of course not. But you have this absurd belief that it's ALL on the coaches.

I suspect that you are not a parent. As I have wrote earlier today....

"Trying to shift the accountability onto coaches is lame.

Reminds me of when when a child gets crappy grades and tires to blame the teacher. I never bought that baloney when my kids tried it (rarely because of the reaction my wife and I had when they tried it ONCE) and certainly am not going to buy it for a quarter of a BILLION dollar QB."

[Mr. Pink]

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It's a combination of JA Turnover Machine and the scheme/playcalling.

We ain't firing Turnover Machine, so we need to find a coordinator who will employ a philosophy and scheme that tailors to JAs strengths and weaknesses.

Is that Joe Brady? Not likely because he was the QB coach. But the move had to be made from Dorsey to try something new. And we'll likely see someone new next season.

[Historian]

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Dan Orolovski just said it on the air.

Dorsey was doing the same thing week after week out of the same formations.

In other words, this offense had become predictable, and defenders were sitting on routes.

That's coaching.

[Mr. Pink]

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Dan Orolovski just said it on the air.

Dorsey was doing the same thing week after week out of the same formations.

In other words, this offense had become predictable, and defenders were sitting on routes.

That's coaching.

Yeah it was obvious Dorsey was calling the same game every game regardless of opponent.

There no adjustments week to week based on opponent, let alone in game adjustments.

After a few weeks we became very predictable in what we were going to do out there and even the lesser teams, like the Broncos, were able to stifle the offense.

Combine the no adjustments or changes with the fact there were just some very stupid play calls in the gameplan on top of it. Like the 4th and 1 shogtun garbage.

[notacon]

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It's a combination of JA Turnover Machine and the scheme/playcalling.

We ain't firing Turnover Machine, so we need to find a coordinator who will employ a philosophy and scheme that tailors to JAs strengths and weaknesses.

Is that Joe Brady? Not likely because he was the QB coach. But the move had to be made from Dorsey to try something new. And we'll likely see someone new next season.

That is a relatively fair assessment.

Of course, any "scheme/playcalling" is flushed down the toilet whenever Josh makes boneheaded decisions (with inexcusable TERRIBLE INT's and fumbles) that are more like what a raw rookie makes than a sixth year vet getting paid a quarter of a BILLION dollars.

[Typ0]

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We ain't firing Turnover Machine.

But we aren't benching him the same way we will other players either. The system is unfairly BIAS by it's own administrators who continue to be crushing blows to the goals of the system.

[Mr. Pink]

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But we aren't benching him the same way we will other players either. The system is unfairly BIAS by it's own administrators who continue to be crushing blows to the goals of the system.

Turnover Machine ain't getting benched because he makes an astronomical amount of money and the difference from Josh to Kyle Allen is a massive chasm as wide as the Grand Canyon.

[sukie]

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Where is the record tying 3 drops in a half thread? 3 drops in first half . At least 2 on 3rd down. Possibly all 3.

the D knew what was coming with 45 left 1st half. Sideline. That I throw us on Josh. It being so well defended on Dorsey.

Gabe’s pass over the middle was perfect. But through his hands is not on Josh

yhr Fumble… Josh sloppy but also wouldn’t happen if under center.

[Bill Cody]

Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem

Dan Orolovski just said it on the air.

Dorsey was doing the same thing week after week out of the same formations.

In other words, this offense had become predictable, and defenders were sitting on routes.

That's coaching.

I agree. Jabrill Peppers said after the NE game that they had practiced the play that he picked off to open the game. Sounded like he knew what was coming.

[Woodman]

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Josh needs to loosen up on Saturday night.

[notacon]

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This dude is still content to die on the “it’s not the coach’s fault!” hill. You’ll see what’s up with Josh Allen once we get a real offensive coach back in the building. Till then, we can take solace in the fact that both our recently fired coordinators are/will be working at Carl’s Jr, since everybody sees they are garbage

Go find another Josh Allen. You won’t find another QB like that in your lifetime—at least one willing to play in Buffalo.

It is a sin to waste his abilities with amateur coaching. Does he make mistakes, sometimes crippling ones? Yes, but nobody made more mistakes than Favre and he was a SB champ and a 3 time MVP. Get the right guy in here, not this ginger plank of wood that nobody respects anymore

I have been accused (grossly falsely) of being a "homer" (by people that apparently have no idea what "homer" or "homerism" actually means.

Your apparent refusal to pin much if ANY blame on Josh Allen is, in fact, much more "homerism" than I have every displayed.

The reactions of both Josh's terrible game and the firing of Dorsey are starting to flood in. Although the situation is very complex with no single answer the attempt to pin ALL or most of the blame on Ken Dorsey (while literally blaming the same for JOSH playing lkike ****) is way, WAY off base.

Here are some reactions....in a SI article titled "NFL World Roasts Josh Allen After His Awful Performance in Bills' Loss to Broncos"