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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    Minnesota: We know how that ended.
    Miami: Milano dropped pick 6, Davis Dropped TD, Allen bounce to McKenzie, Bass missed FG.
    Jets: Davis dropped 70 yard bomb, Davis dropped 1st down, Allen’s INT targeting Knox on first drive.

    Should be 11-0. Suck it.

    So by your logic Miami, Jets, Vikings are pretenders due to ugly wins against the Bills.
    by my logic, 1 ugly win is NOT the equivalent of struggling for 5 straight games.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    Minnesota: We know how that ended.
    Miami: Milano dropped pick 6, Davis Dropped TD, Allen bounce to McKenzie, Bass missed FG.
    Jets: Davis dropped 70 yard bomb, Davis dropped 1st down, Allen’s INT targeting Knox on first drive.

    Should be 11-0. Suck it.

    So by your logic Miami, Jets, Vikings are pretenders due to ugly wins against the Bills.
    One other thing: if you are correct, that makes you think the Bills choked away winnable games 3x in the last 11 games. This means the team that gave us 13 seconds has already followed it up with 3 repeat performances.

    There's no reason to believe that will stop.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Beotch that the team can't win close games then beotch when they win back to back close games. Some people just *****es.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    One other thing: if you are correct, that makes you think the Bills choked away winnable games 3x in the last 11 games. This means the team that gave us 13 seconds has already followed it up with 3 repeat performances.

    There's no reason to believe that will stop.
    Actually go back their last 3 years of losses, including playoffs. Most of them were winnable if not for blowing it.

    Even the Houston playoff game was a choke.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Beotch that the team can't win close games then beotch when they win back to back close games. Some people just *****es.
    McD and Allen have a horrible history in close games. 2 games doesn't erase 2+ years.

    And the Browns game never even should have been that close. We let them back in it, so while on paper it's a one score game, it's only a 1 score game because the Bills blew a lead. There's a huge difference between that and a back-and-forth close game like Detroit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    Actually go back their last 3 years of losses, including playoffs. Most of them were winnable if not for blowing it.

    Even the Houston playoff game was a choke.
    And once again, there's no reason to believe that's going to stop.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    2022

    Week 3 Miami 21-19 Missed FG, Heat, Drops, Underthrows, injuries

    Week 9 Jets 20-17 bad Ints, Missed FG drops, lead at half

    Week 10 Vikings 33-30 OT dumb sneak, dumb Ints, PI against Knox in endzone not called on 2nd to last play

    2021

    Week 1 Pittsburgh 23-16 Lead at half
    Week 6 Tennessee 34-31 Josh Slips
    Week 8 Jags 9-6 ugly game
    Week 11 Colts 41-15 just an ass kicking
    Week 13 NE 14-10 wind game
    Week 14 Tampa 33-27 OT. Offense did nothing in OT.
    Divisional Round KC 42-36 OT. 13 seconds

    2020

    Week 5 Tennessee 42-16 Ass kicking
    Week 6 KC 26-17
    Week 10 Arizona 32-30 Hail Murray
    AFC Championship KC 38-24

    2019

    Week 4 NE 16-10
    Week 8 Eagles 31-13 ass kicking
    Week 10 Cleveland 19-16
    Week 14 Ravens 24-17
    Week 16 NE 24-17
    Week 17 Jets 13-6 Basically was bye Week before playoff
    Wild Card Houston 22-19. Couldn't tackle Watson


    I'm sure there are many plays I am forgetting.

    BURN IT ALL!!!

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    2022

    Week 3 Miami 21-19 Missed FG, Heat, Drops, Underthrows, injuries

    Week 9 Jets 20-17 bad Ints, Missed FG drops, lead at half

    Week 10 Vikings 33-30 OT dumb sneak, dumb Ints, PI against Knox in endzone not called on 2nd to last play

    2021

    Week 1 Pittsburgh 23-16 Lead at half
    Week 6 Tennessee 34-31 Josh Slips
    Week 8 Jags 9-6 ugly game
    Week 11 Colts 41-15 just an ass kicking
    Week 13 NE 14-10 wind game
    Week 14 Tampa 33-27 OT. Offense did nothing in OT.
    Divisional Round KC 42-36 OT. 13 seconds

    2020

    Week 5 Tennessee 42-16 Ass kicking
    Week 6 KC 26-17
    Week 10 Arizona 32-30 Hail Murray
    AFC Championship KC 38-24

    2019

    Week 4 NE 16-10
    Week 8 Eagles 31-13 ass kicking
    Week 10 Cleveland 19-16
    Week 14 Ravens 24-17
    Week 16 NE 24-17
    Week 17 Jets 13-6 Basically was bye Week before playoff
    Wild Card Houston 22-19. Couldn't tackle Watson


    I'm sure there are many plays I am forgetting.

    BURN IT ALL!!!
    Ok, now go through and show how many games we won where the opponent made a late drop/slip/INT whatever. That's the problem. This logic is only applied to games we supposedly should have won. No one ever goes back and applies the same criteria to games we won to say that we should have lost some of them.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Ok, now go through and show how many games we won where the opponent made a late drop/slip/INT whatever. That's the problem. This logic is only applied to games we supposedly should have won. No one ever goes back and applies the same criteria to games we won to say that we should have lost some of them.
    That's your job to prove. I'm not the one who wants to discredit their wins.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    That's your job to prove. I'm not the one who wants to discredit their wins.
    yet you have no problem discrediting losses.... weird. The logic can work for your point but it's "discrediting wins" to use the exact same logic against your point. WTF.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    yet you have no problem discrediting losses.... weird. The logic can work for your point but it's "discrediting wins" to use the exact same logic against your point. WTF.
    You are the one that wants to show how bad this team is. It's not my job to discredit their wins.

    21 losses the last 3 + years, 16 are by 1 score.

    13 of 45 wins were by 1 score.

    66 games.
    45-21 overall.
    29 games decided by 1 score.
    Bills are 13-16 overall in those games.

    With several heartbreaking losses with Hail Mary's, Fumble at goal line, 13 seconds, slips, drops.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    You are the one that wants to show how bad this team is. It's not my job to discredit their wins.

    21 losses the last 3 + years, 16 are by 1 score.

    13 of 45 wins were by 1 score.

    66 games.
    45-21 overall.
    29 games decided by 1 score.
    Bills are 13-16 overall in those games.

    With several heartbreaking losses with Hail Mary's, Fumble at goal line, 13 seconds, slips, drops.
    Well we are talking about a couple of different things going on here. First, the long-term record: Overall, this team has a winning record by a long shot, yet they have a LOSING record in one-score games. And, assuming your numbers are correct cuz I'm too lazy to double check, that means we are talking about 29 games over a 3+ year period, so it's a pretty large sample size.

    People keep telling me that this team is different, the past doesn't matter.... Fine, fair enough. But one thing that isn't different than the past: I still expect this team to blow close games late, because they still do it frequently. You just posted the numbers. It doesn't feel any different than the drought years when we need to keep a team from tying/taking the lead late, or we need a last minute score to catch up.

    As far as the current season, if you can't see the marked difference in the way this team has played before the bye vs after it, I simply don't know what to tell you. We got outplayed in the 2nd half by a poor GB team. We lost to the Jets, we choked against the Vikings, we let the Browns hang around until the end (and likely would have lost against a better team), and needed a last minute FG to beat a mediocre Detroit squad. Obviously injuries have contributed, but most of the injuries have been on D and the O has been struggling too, so it's not just that. We got lucky with the schedule, because if we played the Chiefs, Titans and Fish the way we played the Packers, Lions and Browns, we would have gone 0-3. Something changed during the bye and this just isn't the team that many people thought it was.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Well we are talking about a couple of different things going on here. First, the long-term record: Overall, this team has a winning record by a long shot, yet they have a LOSING record in one-score games. And, assuming your numbers are correct cuz I'm too lazy to double check, that means we are talking about 29 games over a 3+ year period, so it's a pretty large sample size.

    People keep telling me that this team is different, the past doesn't matter.... Fine, fair enough. But one thing that isn't different than the past: I still expect this team to blow close games late, because they still do it frequently. You just posted the numbers. It doesn't feel any different than the drought years when we need to keep a team from tying/taking the lead late, or we need a last minute score to catch up.

    As far as the current season, if you can't see the marked difference in the way this team has played before the bye vs after it, I simply don't know what to tell you. We got outplayed in the 2nd half by a poor GB team. We lost to the Jets, we choked against the Vikings, we let the Browns hang around until the end (and likely would have lost against a better team), and needed a last minute FG to beat a mediocre Detroit squad. Obviously injuries have contributed, but most of the injuries have been on D and the O has been struggling too, so it's not just that. We got lucky with the schedule, because if we played the Chiefs, Titans and Fish the way we played the Packers, Lions and Browns, we would have gone 0-3. Something changed during the bye and this just isn't the team that many people thought it was.
    It's not rocket science. It's a mixture of Josh turning the ball over more, proably because he's hurt and losing some key players on D. Whining endlessly doesn't help.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Cody View Post
    It's not rocket science. It's a mixture of Josh turning the ball over more, proably because he's hurt and losing some key players on D. Whining endlessly doesn't help.
    I don't know why people think that mentioning real things that actually happened constitutes "whining." This board exists to discuss the team, the team hasn't been good since the bye.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I don't know why people think that mentioning real things that actually happened constitutes "whining." This board exists to discuss the team, the team hasn't been good since the bye.
    ok then. Carry on.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    You are using the word "contender" to mean any team given the opportunity to contend.

    I am using "contender" to mean actually having the talent to win it, not simply being allowed to show up.
    I am using a fact.

    You are using an opinion.

    Just keep proving my point, I don't mind.
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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    I am using a fact.

    You are using an opinion.

    Just keep proving my point, I don't mind.
    No, we are using a word that can be used in different contexts. Sports broadcasters spend all off-season discussing which teams are contenders and which teams aren't, meaning which teams actually have a shot at the title. You are being obtuse and completely ignoring the FACT that the word "contender" is frequently used to mean teams that actually have the talent to win the title, and not simply every team that is technically allowed to compete.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I don't know why people think that mentioning real things that actually happened constitutes "whining." This board exists to discuss the team, the team hasn't been good since the bye.
    It's not the real things that actually happened that people 'whine' about.

    It's the real things that haven't happened yet that you consistently insist on claiming will, and are a foregone conclusion.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    They are 8-3.

    Close this stupid asinine thread already.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    They are 8-3.

    Close this stupid asinine thread already.
    I feel like I'm getting gaslit here.

    They just keep playing poorly and everyone here just keeps ignoring it and insisting everything will be ok, as if the last 5 games didn't happen. It's insane.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I feel like I'm getting gaslit here.

    They just keep playing poorly and everyone here just keeps ignoring it and insisting everything will be ok, as if the last 5 games didn't happen. It's insane.
    They

    Are

    8

    and

    3


    The only one gaslighting here is you.

    Shut up

    Go away

    You only come here to either gloat when they lose, or gripe when they win. You are not a fan.

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