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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101255

    Re: We got the win, but...

    Originally posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    You are the one that wants to show how bad this team is. It's not my job to discredit their wins.

    21 losses the last 3 + years, 16 are by 1 score.

    13 of 45 wins were by 1 score.

    66 games.
    45-21 overall.
    29 games decided by 1 score.
    Bills are 13-16 overall in those games.

    With several heartbreaking losses with Hail Mary's, Fumble at goal line, 13 seconds, slips, drops.
    Well we are talking about a couple of different things going on here. First, the long-term record: Overall, this team has a winning record by a long shot, yet they have a LOSING record in one-score games. And, assuming your numbers are correct cuz I'm too lazy to double check, that means we are talking about 29 games over a 3+ year period, so it's a pretty large sample size.

    People keep telling me that this team is different, the past doesn't matter.... Fine, fair enough. But one thing that isn't different than the past: I still expect this team to blow close games late, because they still do it frequently. You just posted the numbers. It doesn't feel any different than the drought years when we need to keep a team from tying/taking the lead late, or we need a last minute score to catch up.

    As far as the current season, if you can't see the marked difference in the way this team has played before the bye vs after it, I simply don't know what to tell you. We got outplayed in the 2nd half by a poor GB team. We lost to the Jets, we choked against the Vikings, we let the Browns hang around until the end (and likely would have lost against a better team), and needed a last minute FG to beat a mediocre Detroit squad. Obviously injuries have contributed, but most of the injuries have been on D and the O has been struggling too, so it's not just that. We got lucky with the schedule, because if we played the Chiefs, Titans and Fish the way we played the Packers, Lions and Browns, we would have gone 0-3. Something changed during the bye and this just isn't the team that many people thought it was.
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    • Bill Cody
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      • Sep 2004
      • 11905

      Re: We got the win, but...

      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
      Well we are talking about a couple of different things going on here. First, the long-term record: Overall, this team has a winning record by a long shot, yet they have a LOSING record in one-score games. And, assuming your numbers are correct cuz I'm too lazy to double check, that means we are talking about 29 games over a 3+ year period, so it's a pretty large sample size.

      People keep telling me that this team is different, the past doesn't matter.... Fine, fair enough. But one thing that isn't different than the past: I still expect this team to blow close games late, because they still do it frequently. You just posted the numbers. It doesn't feel any different than the drought years when we need to keep a team from tying/taking the lead late, or we need a last minute score to catch up.

      As far as the current season, if you can't see the marked difference in the way this team has played before the bye vs after it, I simply don't know what to tell you. We got outplayed in the 2nd half by a poor GB team. We lost to the Jets, we choked against the Vikings, we let the Browns hang around until the end (and likely would have lost against a better team), and needed a last minute FG to beat a mediocre Detroit squad. Obviously injuries have contributed, but most of the injuries have been on D and the O has been struggling too, so it's not just that. We got lucky with the schedule, because if we played the Chiefs, Titans and Fish the way we played the Packers, Lions and Browns, we would have gone 0-3. Something changed during the bye and this just isn't the team that many people thought it was.
      It's not rocket science. It's a mixture of Josh turning the ball over more, proably because he's hurt and losing some key players on D. Whining endlessly doesn't help.

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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101255

        Re: We got the win, but...

        Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
        It's not rocket science. It's a mixture of Josh turning the ball over more, proably because he's hurt and losing some key players on D. Whining endlessly doesn't help.
        I don't know why people think that mentioning real things that actually happened constitutes "whining." This board exists to discuss the team, the team hasn't been good since the bye.
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        • Bill Cody
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          • Sep 2004
          • 11905

          Re: We got the win, but...

          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
          I don't know why people think that mentioning real things that actually happened constitutes "whining." This board exists to discuss the team, the team hasn't been good since the bye.
          ok then. Carry on.

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          • YardRat
            Well, lookie here...
            • Dec 2004
            • 86194

            Re: We got the win, but...

            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
            You are using the word "contender" to mean any team given the opportunity to contend.

            I am using "contender" to mean actually having the talent to win it, not simply being allowed to show up.
            I am using a fact.

            You are using an opinion.

            Just keep proving my point, I don't mind.
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            • OpIv37
              Acid Douching Asswipe
              • Sep 2002
              • 101255

              Re: We got the win, but...

              Originally posted by YardRat View Post
              I am using a fact.

              You are using an opinion.

              Just keep proving my point, I don't mind.
              No, we are using a word that can be used in different contexts. Sports broadcasters spend all off-season discussing which teams are contenders and which teams aren't, meaning which teams actually have a shot at the title. You are being obtuse and completely ignoring the FACT that the word "contender" is frequently used to mean teams that actually have the talent to win the title, and not simply every team that is technically allowed to compete.
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              • YardRat
                Well, lookie here...
                • Dec 2004
                • 86194

                Re: We got the win, but...

                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                I don't know why people think that mentioning real things that actually happened constitutes "whining." This board exists to discuss the team, the team hasn't been good since the bye.
                It's not the real things that actually happened that people 'whine' about.

                It's the real things that haven't happened yet that you consistently insist on claiming will, and are a foregone conclusion.
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                • Forward_Lateral
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 29897

                  Re: We got the win, but...

                  They are 8-3.

                  Close this stupid asinine thread already.

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101255

                    Re: We got the win, but...

                    Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                    They are 8-3.

                    Close this stupid asinine thread already.
                    I feel like I'm getting gaslit here.

                    They just keep playing poorly and everyone here just keeps ignoring it and insisting everything will be ok, as if the last 5 games didn't happen. It's insane.
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                    • Forward_Lateral
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 29897

                      Re: We got the win, but...

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      I feel like I'm getting gaslit here.

                      They just keep playing poorly and everyone here just keeps ignoring it and insisting everything will be ok, as if the last 5 games didn't happen. It's insane.
                      They

                      Are

                      8

                      and

                      3


                      The only one gaslighting here is you.

                      Shut up

                      Go away

                      You only come here to either gloat when they lose, or gripe when they win. You are not a fan.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101255

                        Re: We got the win, but...

                        Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                        They

                        Are

                        8

                        and

                        3


                        The only one gaslighting here is you.

                        Shut up

                        Go away

                        You only come here to either gloat when they lose, or gripe when they win. You are not a fan.
                        Did you not see how they played for the last 5 games? It’s nowhere near SB contention. It’s not even playoff contention. They got off to a hit start and trailed off. It’s happened many times before and it’s happening again. But you and many others are clinging to what happened 6 weeks ago instead of what is happening now.

                        And as usual, it’s easier to make it about me supposedly not being a fan than to accept the reality of what’s happening.
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                        • Joe Fo Sho
                          Making Spirits Bright
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 6194

                          Re: We got the win, but...

                          Imagine starting a thread like this and complaining that people are 'making it about you.'

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                          • OpIv37
                            Acid Douching Asswipe
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101255

                            Re: We got the win, but...

                            Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                            Imagine starting a thread like this and complaining that people are 'making it about you.'
                            I didn’t start this thread about me. I started it about how poorly the team has been playing. It’s just easier to deflect and make it about me than to acknowledge that reality.
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                            • TacklingDummy
                              Unreachable Douche
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71725

                              Re: We got the win, but...

                              I feel bad for the Chiefs being eliminated from Super Bowl contention due to only getting 1 TD in 6 trips in the red zone vs the ****ty Rams.

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                              • OpIv37
                                Acid Douching Asswipe
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 101255

                                Re: We got the win, but...

                                Originally posted by TacklingDummy View Post
                                I feel bad for the Chiefs being eliminated from Super Bowl contention due to only getting 1 TD in 6 trips in the red zone vs the ****ty Rams.
                                They had one bad game. WE HAD FIVE STRAIGHT. And they still have a better record than us, and still lead their division, which we don't.
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