He ****ing slides everytime hes 2-3 yds from the first down and every time, it costs his team. People keep talking about how hes just like allen, hes big, hes tough. Hes Drew Bledsoe with a little mobility.
Sorry for the rant but im watching the raiders game and ive seen this all year, hell have an easy first down and slide if anyone is within a couple yds of him. Hes soft as ****
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Have to agree. I also hear he's not a vocal leader either. That's not what I want from my QB.
Look at the effort Mahomes just put in on 4th down to get into the end zone. That's what I want.
Herbert is reminding me of Martel from the replacements.
he might have all world talent but man, he's just hollow. zero heart.
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MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!
Last play, herbert makes ZERO effort to get the ball down field for a TD, he's just padding his passing numbers taking underneath ****. dude that's just bull****. If i was a chargers fan i'd be livid.
Similar talents. Total opposite people.
Herbert doesn’t have nearly the same escapability and ability to make throws on the run that Josh does. His pocket awareness is poor, at times.
I didn’t even know there was comparisons
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Cntrygal (12-05-2022),Mad Bomber (12-06-2022)
Herbert has tools, he really confuses me. He doesn’t win games. Feels like he’s heading towards Philip Rivers kind of career.
Another year, his third, and no playoffs. Pretty damning. And yeah, I always said that Josh is a violent runner, looking for contact. Herbert doesn't and while it might extend his career, it won't lead to on-field success.
He has a great arm and is one of the most accurate throwers.
Yet he is half the athlete Josh is and cannot escape the pocket that often when things break down. If he can't find his first read, he hesitates too long and then throws to RB Eckler every time. That's what I see after it was pointed out by the media covering the team. Makes it easier for the D. Habits that don't change.
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Herbert's a stud, but Josh is a different dude, no other QB in the last 20 years gives up his body for the team like that, none, zero, not even close.
Josh is Superman
Herbert is Clark Kent
Herbert is held back by a tragic coaching staff. He isn't Allen, but he isn't a scrub. The only thing Staley has done in LA is find ways to lose them games.
I agree. Staley has been terrible.Originally Posted by mightysimi
notacon (12-06-2022)
Agree but you have to say Herbert plays a lot of great games that he in the end....just loses. I can't really put my finger on it because at times he is amazingly clutch. I still think Herbert is a top 5 QB talent but there is something missing.
Whatever the case is, I hope he dominates the next game and crushes the fish
mightysimi (12-05-2022),YardRat (12-05-2022)
I've paid a fair bit of attention to the Chargers, due to having Herbert as my fantasy QB. To me, it's coaching. They have no idea what they are doing. As much as we like to complain about McDermott's lack of game day awareness, watching games around the league just makes me appreciate him more. Coaches have absolutely no idea what they are doing most of the time, it seems.
YardRat (12-05-2022)
And Chiefs fans are tired of Mahomes and Allen comparisons…
Herbert is dealing with ****ty coaching and a rash of O-line and receiver injuries.
Say what you want about him but that last TD pass yesterday was jaw-dropping.
Im specifically talking about toughness
Ill give herbert these few things. In the pocket, hes one of the 3 best QBs in the nfl
He doesnt throw well when his feet arent set, very little elusiveness, and shys away from important contact (being a yd pr 2 from the td/first)
My top 5
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Hurts
I dont think herbert is bad, but there are a lot of people in the media and fanbases who claim that Herbert is a bigger stronger Allen and is just as good as him
Burrow and Mahomes are the only competition to allen. The thing i believe that separates the 4 is the top 3, are tough and put their life on the line to win
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Im specifically talking about toughness
Ill give herbert these few things. In the pocket, hes one of the 3 best QBs in the nfl
He doesnt throw well when his feet arent set, very little elusiveness, and shys away from important contact (being a yd pr 2 from the td/first)
My top 5
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Hurts
I dont think herbert is bad, but there are a lot of people in the media and fanbases who claim that Herbert is a bigger stronger Allen and is just as good as him
Burrow and Mahomes are the only competition to allen. The thing i believe that separates the 4 is the top 3, are tough and put their life on the line to win
Allen has outplayed mahomes the last 2 seasons statistically during the regular season and has outplayed mahomes the last 3 times they played. Those comparisons will always be there
Mahomes also has the benefit of Andy Reids insane playcalling that consistently gives mahomes at least one wide open target. They run a lot of drags and specifically use route combinations to get players open deep. Then Kelce has given Mahomes 3 wins the last 2 seasons by taking 10 yd passes and making them 30 yd tds
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