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    Re: Fire Frazier

    I gave the 13 seconds (actually 10) up as a horrific one off only happens to Buffalo Frazier screwed up.

    this last game is evidence of a trend. I cannot defend him and his continued employ as DC is inexcusable. One thing that might be going on with the a bills is that should Frazier get a gig as a DC or HC on another team the Bills would get 23rd round picks 2 years from now. Minority thing.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    I gave the 13 seconds (actually 10) up as a horrific one off only happens to Buffalo Frazier screwed up.

    this last game is evidence of a trend. I cannot defend him and his continued employ as DC is inexcusable. One thing that might be going on with the a bills is that should Frazier get a gig as a DC or HC on another team the Bills would get 23rd round picks 2 years from now. Minority thing.
    McDermott inserted himself into 13 seconds, calling two stupid timeouts so he could measure what the offense was doing. He corrected and changed nothing both times and gave them a chance to see he wasn't, and he stepped up and claimed it.

    The year before, the Buffalo defense showed some aggressive and opportunistic to compete down the backstretch, then stifled in the playoffs, falling back into bendy.

    I'm not a Frazier fan, but McDermott's defensive instinct just isn't there, though that's how he got here with wildly varying results from his DC work. His message gets stale and will vary in results by his personnel.

    I kind of loved how he was a manager coach, but I'm about at the point of knowing he can't manage being a manager, because he's going to choke again in the clutch. He can't get past himself, and it doesn't mean I want him fired but it's getting close.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Itís a week later and Frazier isnít fired so they can find a new DC.

    The OL coach isnít fired either.

    Yet the fired the safeties coach.

    I fully expect the same staff next year.
    Daboll should have been made HC

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    "But...but...look how good the defense is in the regular season!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    McDermott inserted himself into 13 seconds, calling two stupid timeouts so he could measure what the offense was doing. He corrected and changed nothing both times and gave them a chance to see he wasn't, and he stepped up and claimed it.

    The year before, the Buffalo defense showed some aggressive and opportunistic to compete down the backstretch, then stifled in the playoffs, falling back into bendy.

    I'm not a Frazier fan, but McDermott's defensive instinct just isn't there, though that's how he got here with wildly varying results from his DC work. His message gets stale and will vary in results by his personnel.

    I kind of loved how he was a manager coach, but I'm about at the point of knowing he can't manage being a manager, because he's going to choke again in the clutch. He can't get past himself, and it doesn't mean I want him fired but it's getting close.


    If he keeps getting the same results the day is coming when players tune out his culture talk.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    "But...but...look how good the defense is in the regular season!"


    And it will be again next year. Until it goes up against to best QB's.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Frazier is still being considered in Denver. Nothing will happen to him until all hiring scenarios are complete

    compensatory picks in play.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    And it will be again next year. Until it goes up against to best QB's.
    I've been saying that for three seasons.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    Agree OP.

    Picture Frank coaching Josh.
    No thanks, Iím already seeing what failure looks like. I donít need another coach whose proven that what he has to offer as well.
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    Re: Fire Frazier

    People are just in denial about the situation with McDermott. Just because you want it to be true doesn't mean it is.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Frazier is still being considered in Denver. Nothing will happen to him until all hiring scenarios are complete

    compensatory picks in play.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Frazier isn't the problem.

    McBeane is the problem.

    The drafting on the defensive side of the ball has been awful and it's their focus year after year.

    Elam, I like the kid and think he can be better than White. Problem is he's a man corner and we run a zone scheme because every other corner on this roster is a zone corner. Excited about the pick at the time but now I'm wondering why we bothered.

    Basham and Rousseau. Both below average guys. Reached for them because we had no pass rush and without Miller, we still have no pass rush. Throw in Epenesa as well.

    Ed Oliver. Average player. Disappears at times. Plays really well at times. Doesn't hold the line of attack on defense which contributes to Tremaine Edmunds being able to find someone to block him.

    Speaking of Tremaine! Zero instincts. Low football IQ. Physical freak.

    At some point you can't just blame the guy forced to coach these guys and blame the front office for wasting picks on guys who simply aren't good enough.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Well.... Vic Fangio to the Dolphins as DC. There goes that dream.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-hi...ve-coordinator

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Frazier is still being considered in Denver. Nothing will happen to him until all hiring scenarios are complete

    compensatory picks in play.
    I read Harbaugh outside shot, and a bunch of young assistants, no mention of Frazier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Frazier isn't the problem.

    McBeane is the problem.

    The drafting on the defensive side of the ball has been awful and it's their focus year after year.

    Elam, I like the kid and think he can be better than White. Problem is he's a man corner and we run a zone scheme because every other corner on this roster is a zone corner. Excited about the pick at the time but now I'm wondering why we bothered.

    Basham and Rousseau. Both below average guys. Reached for them because we had no pass rush and without Miller, we still have no pass rush. Throw in Epenesa as well.

    Ed Oliver. Average player. Disappears at times. Plays really well at times. Doesn't hold the line of attack on defense which contributes to Tremaine Edmunds being able to find someone to block him.

    Speaking of Tremaine! Zero instincts. Low football IQ. Physical freak.

    At some point you can't just blame the guy forced to coach these guys and blame the front office for wasting picks on guys who simply aren't good enough.
    Frazier has no bag of tricks. Burrow struggled against man, so they played zone where he thrived. Burrow thrives against a 4 man rush so even when they blitzed, they dropped a lineman into coverage and only rushed 4. Tackling is an issue, that's defensive fundamentals, been years. They line up softer than the 1st down marker on 3rd downs and long yardage.

    That's all McFrazier, joined at the hip.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Frazier isn't the problem.

    McBeane is the problem.

    The drafting on the defensive side of the ball has been awful and it's their focus year after year.

    Elam, I like the kid and think he can be better than White. Problem is he's a man corner and we run a zone scheme because every other corner on this roster is a zone corner. Excited about the pick at the time but now I'm wondering why we bothered.

    Basham and Rousseau. Both below average guys. Reached for them because we had no pass rush and without Miller, we still have no pass rush. Throw in Epenesa as well.

    Ed Oliver. Average player. Disappears at times. Plays really well at times. Doesn't hold the line of attack on defense which contributes to Tremaine Edmunds being able to find someone to block him.

    Speaking of Tremaine! Zero instincts. Low football IQ. Physical freak.

    At some point you can't just blame the guy forced to coach these guys and blame the front office for wasting picks on guys who simply aren't good enough.


    I agree with the rest of your post. Frazier is absolutely part of the problem. I don't know that ditching him would help since he's here to implement McDermotts love of conservative defense. That's why he's part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexwhat View Post
    Well.... Vic Fangio to the Dolphins as DC. There goes that dream.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-hi...ve-coordinator
    Balls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Frazier isn't the problem.

    McBeane is the problem.

    The drafting on the defensive side of the ball has been awful and it's their focus year after year.

    Elam, I like the kid and think he can be better than White. Problem is he's a man corner and we run a zone scheme because every other corner on this roster is a zone corner. Excited about the pick at the time but now I'm wondering why we bothered.

    Basham and Rousseau. Both below average guys. Reached for them because we had no pass rush and without Miller, we still have no pass rush. Throw in Epenesa as well.

    Ed Oliver. Average player. Disappears at times. Plays really well at times. Doesn't hold the line of attack on defense which contributes to Tremaine Edmunds being able to find someone to block him.

    Speaking of Tremaine! Zero instincts. Low football IQ. Physical freak.

    At some point you can't just blame the guy forced to coach these guys and blame the front office for wasting picks on guys who simply aren't good enough.
    Frazier's defense is the biggest problem.
    Josh regressing is #2.
    Beane is #3.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Watching this game McFrazier looks like a latter day lost vanilla Wannstedt in a different world.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Watching this game McFrazier looks like a latter day lost vanilla Wannstedt in a different world.
    The Chiefs played two high a lot and won, lots of Quarters coverage, lots of two deep shells. If Frazier was watching he was probably thinking he's vindicated. LOL

    The difference is they have Chris Jones, The Greek, Frank Clark, and they actually got pressure.

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    Re: Fire Frazier

    Do it now Beane!

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