Diggs may have to go

[Typ0]

Can you expand on this a little bit, Rat?

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I think we differ as to how.

It was clear as day he'd been coached to just unleash. I know we see what Josh is doing on the field and think it's all him but I don't buy into it. Allen was coached to start that behavior. Maybe it's got to do with elbow and he was ok on the long throws but really struggling on the short stuff?

[TacklingDummy]

How was this not a penalty? Bengals got away with alot of **** during game.

Cam Taylor-Britt up top in press vs Stefon Diggs

pic.twitter.com/AAEJXqt96P

— Anthony Cover 1 (@Pro__Ant) January 23, 2023

[Kenny]

How was this not a penalty? Bengals got away with alot of **** during game.

Because it's within 5 yards of the LOS... and basically how you should be playing when you're in a man scheme (basically how the Chargers shut down Hill). Also Diggs being off the LOS and getting somewhat of a free release... you would have hoped he could avoid the jam (unless that was a run play designed for Diggs to take out the DB)

Edit: that kind of looked like illegal hands to the face though!

[TacklingDummy]

Edit: that kind of looked like illegal hands to the face

That's the part I'm talking about. Looks like he basically punches him in the face.

[YardRat]

Can you expand on this a little bit, Rat?

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I think we differ as to how.

He threw a a lot more long balls after the bye, we all saw that. His completion percentage went down (because he was taking deeper shots) and his yards per completion went up (he was roughly 9-11 yards prior to the bye, mostly over 12 after). I don't have stats on the air yards per incompletion but I would bet that went up too.

[Typ0]

I have no issues with Diggs not getting the ball Sunday. In fact, that is what I would expect because that is how CIN always does it. It is where your best weapon becomes your best decoy. Problem is there isn't enough of anyone else there to actually catch the damn football. So Diggs being silent is not what our problem was Sunday. Diggs shooting his mouth off was a big problem though. No understanding for his tirades. He's a selfish ass pissed off because HE is losing when HE wants to win. Diggs is a ME player. A lot of stuff has happened this season. We didn't know it before. Now we do.

[imbondz]

Diggs was the only one who showed any emotion Sunday and we’re dogging him. He’s our #1 WR who rarely drops passes. Makes no sense.

[Typ0]

Diggs was the only one who showed any emotion Sunday and we’re dogging him. He’s our #1 WR who rarely drops passes. Makes no sense.

It does not fit in with McDermott's mantra ergo the mantra gets destroyed. McDermott would have been much better off just saying Diggs is a competitor and was upset so he was being a dork.

Hey all these guys are reeling with PTSD from this season OK. I'm not trying to minimize that in any way being critical of Diggs. In a way they are all sick and are going to need some time. So what happened on the field could and should have a tipped view in light of what the team went through this season. But how do you handle that?

[Borosai]

I have no problem with Diggs showing real emotion (probably because I feel the same way) instead of repeating the same cookie-cutter, PC comments you hear every week from this team. That's why they are where they are. "We gotta learn from it and get better." "I can't put my team in that position." "It's a long season." There's always an obvious solution to the problem, but the solution never showed up. The team got worse. Maybe if someone had spoken up earlier in the season, drawing some urgent attention to the poor play we all saw out there, things could've actually been fixed. Instead, they falsely believed the hype, thought everything would be alright by simply continuing "The Process", and boom, Super Bowl champs!

I have no idea what McD does as a head coach. You know you have to run the ball to balance your offense (and I don't mean Allen as your leading rusher). Your offense continues to lack a legit running game. Nothing? Just let it be I guess. I know Allen wants to air it out, and apparently Dorsey does too, regardless of the weather or defense. Someone (McD) needs to straighten that out. The poor coaching isn't new.

So yeah, Diggs should be upset. Allen hasn't played well since the bye. The OC didn't help. McD didn't help. The OL didn't help. And nothing was done about it.

[jamze132]

Anyone who thinks we should get rid of Diggs isn’t very football savvy.

IMO, Leslie Frazier is the weak link who refuses to adjust his scheme from game to game. The Bengals punched us in the mouth before Hamlin got hurt and they did the exact same thing again and we did nothing in defense to stop it. They’re down 3 starters on the O-line so the only way they’re going to be successful is with quick passes…so one would think playing press coverage would slow down Burrow’s decision making…which obviously never happened. Every single person catching the ball pretty much had freedom to do so under 10 yards the entire game. There were even a couple of miscommunications in the backfield which screwed us.

So yeah it’s easy to see why the offense was never able to get in sync and it’s why Diggs is miserable, which I fully expect. I wish the rest of the team had his passion for winning.

[DraftBoy]

How was this not a penalty? Bengals got away with alot of **** during game.

Cam Taylor-Britt up top in press vs Stefon Diggs

pic.twitter.com/AAEJXqt96P

— Anthony Cover 1 (@Pro__Ant) January 23, 2023

Because it’s just a jam at the line. It’s a good no call and letting them play football.

[TacklingDummy]

Because it’s just a jam at the line. It’s a good no call and letting them play football.

You can't jam someone with a punch to tbe face. Horrendous no call.

[DraftBoy]

You can't jam someone with a punch to tbe face. Horrendous no call.

It’s the playoffs, either come to play or get beat. Your sudden need to whine about every call not going the Bills way is akin to Op’s constant negativity.

[TacklingDummy]

It’s the playoffs, either come to play or get beat. Your sudden need to whine about every call not going the Bills way is akin to Op’s constant negativity.

Whatever.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Great thread

lets Get rid of the one wide receiver on this team that runs the correct routes and doesn’t drop balls and hates losing

[Historian]

He threw a a lot more long balls after the bye, we all saw that. His completion percentage went down (because he was taking deeper shots) and his yards per completion went up (he was roughly 9-11 yards prior to the bye, mostly over 12 after). I don't have stats on the air yards per incompletion but I would bet that went up too.

I guess it boils down to who's fault that is.

You believe it's Josh, okay.

I tend to think of it as Dorsey's fault. I mean, if you have a thoroughbred, you run him I guess, but you still have to play sound, situational football.

Then there's the line which is average at best, and lost it's starting center for a few weeks.

I don't put this on Josh, I think it comes from the booth, and sometimes, due to a breakdown.

[Forward_Lateral]

I guess it boils down to who's fault that is.

You believe it's Josh, okay.

I tend to think of it as Dorsey's fault. I mean, if you have a thoroughbred, you run him I guess, but you still have to play sound, situational football.

Then there's the line which is average at best, and lost it's starting center for a few weeks.

I don't put this on Josh, I think it comes from the booth, and sometimes, due to a breakdown.

It's 100% coaching.

How many times did Josh throw deep balls in stupid situations last year? You can probably count them on one hand. How many times did they call deep balls in stupid situations this year?

Yes, Daboll had some flaws, but he knew how to call a game. He knew what plays worked and what got Josh and the offense in a rhythm. He didn't just call 20 yard pass plays every time.

Dorsey has no idea what a screen pass is, unless it's a useless WR screen. No TE screens, no RB screens, just stupid bubble screens and an occasional jet sweep. He has no idea how to call a game. Can he learn? Sure. Will he? I don't know. Not in Buffalo, IMO. Not with Josh Allen as his QB. Josh needs someone who will bring him down to earth. Someone who can reign him in with PLAYCALLING.

[Typ0]

I guess it boils down to who's fault that is.

You believe it's Josh, okay.

I tend to think of it as Dorsey's fault. I mean, if you have a thoroughbred, you run him I guess, but you still have to play sound, situational football.

Then there's the line which is average at best, and lost it's starting center for a few weeks.

I don't put this on Josh, I think it comes from the booth, and sometimes, due to a breakdown.

That's where the McDermott problem rears it's ugly head. It's not about whose fault it is. For whatever reason, the mixture is off and it's McDermott who is in the position of oversite to correct it.

[sukie]

It's 100% coaching.

How many times did Josh throw deep balls in stupid situations last year? You can probably count them on one hand. How many times did they call deep balls in stupid situations this year?

Yes, Daboll had some flaws, but he knew how to call a game. He knew what plays worked and what got Josh and the offense in a rhythm. He didn't just call 20 yard pass plays every time.

Dorsey has no idea what a screen pass is, unless it's a useless WR screen. No TE screens, no RB screens, just stupid bubble screens and an occasional jet sweep. He has no idea how to call a game. Can he learn? Sure. Will he? I don't know. Not in Buffalo, IMO. Not with Josh Allen as his QB. Josh needs someone who will bring him down to earth. Someone who can rein him in with PLAYCALLING.

not just an awesome post but nearly a piece of artwork.
The outlets were always in the flat. No RB break off block and turn 4 yards up field over the middle. The WR screen to Diggs worked so well early.

Dorsey loves the sidelines. Loves it . But there is so much between the numbers left there… unused.

odd since he’s a former QB. Lack of non flat RB outlets is maddening.