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    The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Time to face the reality.

    This team wins game because Josh Allen is a great player.

    The WRs besides Diggs have been disappointing.
    The OL continues to be terrible. There's a reason we can never run consistently.
    All the investment in CB? pointles
    All the investment in the D line not named Von Miller? pointless.
    Our MLB can't tackle.
    Constantly out coached, especially the D.

    I'd put this whole team under a microscope.

    A good coach will build a SB winner around Josh Allen. They are failing him.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Agreed 100 percent. Too much money is being invested on the side of the ball that has been neutered by NFL rules. Invest in your best player and the side of the ball that wins game the old mantra that offense sells tickets and defense wins championships is no longer the case. KC and Cinci understand this because they have offensive minded HCs
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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian'eh! View Post
    Time to face the reality.

    This team wins game because Josh Allen is a great player.

    The WRs besides Diggs have been disappointing.
    The OL continues to be terrible. There's a reason we can never run consistently.
    All the investment in CB? pointles
    All the investment in the D line not named Von Miller? pointless.
    Our MLB can't tackle.
    Constantly out coached, especially the D.

    I'd put this whole team under a microscope.

    A good coach will build a SB winner around Josh Allen. They are failing him.
    Giving the keys to the Ferrari to a rookie OC with a Defensive minded HC was a catastrophe.

    If that is not wasting Josh Allen's talent, I don't know what is and what a slap in the face to the rest of the team it was.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    so why were they the #2 offense again?

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    OC is an issue. A big one but he didn’t make Davis suck.

    kinda glad for this pasting. It makes the 3-13 meaningless when you thud like this.

    This game removes the blinders that hid issues buried in 13 seconds last year.
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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreedoII View Post
    so why were they the #2 offense again?
    Josh Allen.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreedoII View Post
    so why were they the #2 offense again?
    Because Josh Allen is a top 3 player.

    There's SOME talent outside him and Diggs. Knox is ok. Davis is ok but disappointed overall this year. Singletary and Cook look ok.

    Josh makes everyone better. The OL especially..... there's a reason we can never run the ball well. Josh makes them better by using his mobility so well.
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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    thanks for clarifying

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    If it weren't for Josh, the team's rushing yards would be much lower, and sacks would be much higher. He has made the team look better than it is, even with the mistakes he makes. That's why they think they can trot out the same **** every game: Josh will win the game anyway.

    Where were those designed Allen runs today? The ones that deflate a defense because he just keeps beating you with his legs and arm, no matter what you do. Nah, let's just pass deep. No point in running Josh in the playoffs... that's what the regular season is for.

    Can you imagine a real OC with Josh? And with a good offensive line? And a HC who doesn't shrivel up in the biggest games? That's what I want to see.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    I’m done with Frazier too.
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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    You know, I don't feel bad saying Allen looked like crap today, and if he doesn't get offseason surgery for something I don't know about, there's something real wrong with him, deep into a career in which he's evolved by working on his game and they'd all better figure it out real quick or this is a study on wasted potential. It doesn't matter, but I'm not feeling forgiving.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    If any team who passed on JA had taken him before we had the chance McDermott and Beane wouldn't even be employed here anymore.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Josh is uber talented, but is he a good fit?

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    Josh is uber talented, but is he a good fit?
    ?
    He’s the best fit.
    anyone that’s doesn’t fit him, show them door. Build everything around him.

    that’s like asking is Michael Jordan a good fit?

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    You know, I don't feel bad saying Allen looked like crap today, and if he doesn't get offseason surgery for something I don't know about, there's something real wrong with him, deep into a career in which he's evolved by working on his game and they'd all better figure it out real quick or this is a study on wasted potential. It doesn't matter, but I'm not feeling forgiving.
    where as a unit would you rank the WRs and TE on this team? I’ll go further. Davis tricked us last playoff loss. so next year… fantasy drafts around the country… after Diggs what buff WR is being selected outside of the final 3 filler rounds?

    Knox will be selected. I bet if there were true WR threats… Knox would kinda disappear stat wise.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
    ?
    He’s the best fit.
    anyone that’s doesn’t fit him, show them door. Build everything around him.

    that’s like asking is Michael Jordan a good fit?
    Well I agree that anyone that doesn't fit around him should be gone and they should build around him. But to be the best fit, Josh needs to do his part and prove it.


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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    Well I agree that anyone that doesn't fit around him should be gone and they should build around him. But to be the best fit, Josh needs to do his part and prove it.

    There is no superman in team.
    He plays Superman as often as he does only because he’s got too many Jokers surrounding him.
    the line constantly/inevitably caves in around him squeezing him out of the pocket trying to make something happen (he does stupid ish often, sure, but it’s because he knows it’s him or nothing.
    then add our idiota OC doesn’t believe in running the ball, throwing screens, throwing slants, gadgets…making the offense much easier/very easy to contain by opposing playoff quality defenses.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    The lack of a running game, be it Singletary and Cook suck or that Dorsey doesn't even call running plays, is a HUGE problem for this offense.

    They are extremely predictable.

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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
    ?
    He’s the best fit.
    anyone that’s doesn’t fit him, show them door. Build everything around him.

    that’s like asking is Michael Jordan a good fit?
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    Re: The Bills are not talented. Josh Allen is talented.

    I dont think this is getting talked about enough but Edmunds and poyer were AWFUL during the playoffs. Edmunds was completely lost, and his communication with poyer was awful. They either both went to the same zone, or neither went to the zone.
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