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He won't be here more than another 1-3 years, another season like this offensively and he'll start getting phone calls for HC positions.
At worst, another 3 seasons like this one offensively and someone is hiring him.
That's the effect Josh Allen has.
Dorsey could get a raise to stay as well. Hey, with Kim's poor health condition, accountability for sound football moves at the top has taken a big blow. Could be status quo from here on out. Hope not.
We need a QB that understands what it means to use those weapons appropriately in the playoffs versus just lighting up the scoreboard against lightweights in the regular season.
YardRat Wall of Fame #56 DARRYL TALLEY #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS
We need a QB that understands what it means to use those weapons appropriately in the playoffs versus just lighting up the scoreboard against lightweights in the regular season.
The whole idea of “we don’t need more weapons” is a pure knee jerk reaction that has little footing in reality....especially if one just looks around the league.
The biggest issue this season was the falloff of the offense. Too inconsistent. No threats to keep the pressure off Diggs. Too dependent on Josh Allen being superman. Even yesterday, the offense was the big failure in not taking advantage of the opportunities presented to them.
As KC has shown us year after year, defense is nice, but dynamic, dangerous offense trumps that every time....just like Cincy’s dynamic offence minimized the Bills (up until then) very good defense (missing DaQuan Jones was huge).
Gabe Davis, McKenzie, Singletary, Cook (at least so far), Shakir (so far) and even Knox are not comparable weapons to every single of the four teams that are left in the playoffs.
And especially Patrick Mahomes (who has shown he is head and shoulders better than Josh Allen)
Cincy:
Ja’Marr Chase (better than Diggs)
Joe Mixon
Tee Higgins
Tyler Boyd
And especially Joe Burrow who has now surpassed Josh Allen at QB.
Philly:
AJ Brown (better than Diggs)
Davonte Smith
Dallas Goedert
Miles Sanders
San Fran:
McCaffrey
Kittle
Aiyuk
Deebo Samuel
ALL better than the Bills players mentioned above.
Cook might develop into a real RB. The Bills needs to draft another one. (BTW, I wanted the Bills to draft Najee Harris (they should have moved up to get him) and Breece Hall....can anyone doubt that this would be much better team with either of those at RB????) It is critical the Bills improve their running game....from RB’s.
Davis is just not a reliable #2 WR. He should stay for 2023 because he’s cheap ($2.9M cap hit), but the Bills MUST find a real threat at WR#2. OBJ is a perfect fit. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a UFA and could probably be signed for a relatively reasonable cost. He would be a clear upgrade over Davis.
Plus they have to consider a spending high value draft pick on a WR.
McKenzie has got to be cut. It would save $2.6M in cap space for 2023.
Crowder could be a viable replacement, we really never got to see what he could do. And he would be cheap for another 1 year contract.
The Bills absolutely need “more weapons”. (Not so say that they don’t need other upgrades...they addressed the pass rush last year with Von Miller and his injury was a HUGE blow) They have no chance to get better and attempt to surpass KC and Cincy unless they do.
We had these conversations when Daboll was here, some would say Daboll sucks and others would point to Josh playing hero ball and not hitting open receivers.
This year it's Dorsey sucks, and others are pointing out Josh playing too much hero ball and not hitting open receivers.
If a change is made I'm pretty confident next season will be Brady sucks and others will claim Josh is playing too much hero ball and not hitting open receivers.
Daboll...Dorsey...Brady or whoever...the common thread is Josh playing stupid, not the OC.
YardRat Wall of Fame #56 DARRYL TALLEY #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS
Decline in offense happened when Josh Allen hurt his elbow. Still think his injury was worse than what he and the team let on.
Offense was a juggernaut heading into the bye, Allen was on a pace to break Peyton Manning's single season passing yards record.
Allen was wobbly coming out of the bye against the Packers, next game was the Jets and he was more wobbly. Injury happened near the end of the Jets game, so the decline actually started sooner.
We had these conversations when Daboll was here, some would say Daboll sucks and others would point to Josh playing hero ball and not hitting open receivers.
This year it's Dorsey sucks, and others are pointing out Josh playing too much hero ball and not hitting open receivers.
If a change is made I'm pretty confident next season will be Brady sucks and others will claim Josh is playing too much hero ball and not hitting open receivers.
Daboll...Dorsey...Brady or whoever...the common thread is Josh playing stupid, not the OC.
I think a lot of people understood daboll was great, i didnt see a lot of "good hes gone" posts. My biggest issue was his lack of balance or building of the OL. Passing game wise, his concepts worked and our receivers got open under them. Same core, and theyre blanketed all game now
Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
He did do a good job of coaching Daniel up to protect the football though, I'll give him credit for that.
Jones is nothing compared to Allen but you can see the difference between Jones' improvement and Allens decline (between the ears) with Daboll being the common denomiator.
The whole idea of “we don’t need more weapons” is a pure knee jerk reaction that has little footing in reality....especially if one just looks around the league.
The biggest issue this season was the falloff of the offense. Too inconsistent. No threats to keep the pressure off Diggs. Too dependent on Josh Allen being superman. Even yesterday, the offense was the big failure in not taking advantage of the opportunities presented to them.
As KC has shown us year after year, defense is nice, but dynamic, dangerous offense trumps that every time....just like Cincy’s dynamic offence minimized the Bills (up until then) very good defense (missing DaQuan Jones was huge).
Gabe Davis, McKenzie, Singletary, Cook (at least so far), Shakir (so far) and even Knox are not comparable weapons to every single of the four teams that are left in the playoffs.
And especially Patrick Mahomes (who has shown he is head and shoulders better than Josh Allen)
Cincy:
Ja’Marr Chase (better than Diggs)
Joe Mixon
Tee Higgins
Tyler Boyd
And especially Joe Burrow who has now surpassed Josh Allen at QB.
Philly:
AJ Brown (better than Diggs)
Davonte Smith
Dallas Goedert
Miles Sanders
San Fran:
McCaffrey
Kittle
Aiyuk
Deebo Samuel
ALL better than the Bills players mentioned above.
Cook might develop into a real RB. The Bills needs to draft another one. (BTW, I wanted the Bills to draft Najee Harris (they should have moved up to get him) and Breece Hall....can anyone doubt that this would be much better team with either of those at RB????) It is critical the Bills improve their running game....from RB’s.
Davis is just not a reliable #2 WR. He should stay for 2023 because he’s cheap ($2.9M cap hit), but the Bills MUST find a real threat at WR#2. OBJ is a perfect fit. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a UFA and could probably be signed for a relatively reasonable cost. He would be a clear upgrade over Davis.
Plus they have to consider a spending high value draft pick on a WR.
McKenzie has got to be cut. It would save $2.6M in cap space for 2023.
Crowder could be a viable replacement, we really never got to see what he could do. And he would be cheap for another 1 year contract.
The Bills absolutely need “more weapons”. (Not so say that they don’t need other upgrades...they addressed the pass rush last year with Von Miller and his injury was a HUGE blow) They have no chance to get better and attempt to surpass KC and Cincy unless they do.
Are they better or are they put in a position to succeed. How would Digga-Davis-Mckenzie-Knox look in cincis offense. Would we even utilize Chase-Higgins-Boyd the way they should in ours?
Im sorry but talent, isnt whats getting cinci and kcs receivers wide open every game. Thats scheme. I can look at all those offenses and honestly, i dont think wed be any different with those weapons with how dorsey runs our offense
I think people think scheme is a simple thing. Its not. Its how routes are run with timing, how they blend to get the receiver open, how there is an extensive screen game to keep the pressure off allen
Do you really think Deebo would have even half the production in this offense? I dont. Do you think we would be using kelce the way hes used? I dont. Kittle? nah
If mahomes and burrow were throwing tight throws every game and these players were consistently beating double coverage numerous times a game, i may agree with you. But theyre not. They are getting schemed up WIDE open, wide wide open. You saw kelce running with no one around him multiple times vs the jags, you see chase/Hurst with no one near them vs the bills
We can have Chase-Adams-Kelce on this offense and we are not going anywhere if every play we are depending on them soley to win their route
Its a scheme thing, we yell at davis because he drops passes at times, but whens the last time we saw diggs/davis/knox/mckenzie running wide open and drop a pass. They drop passes at times but they are having to beat a route, and catch the ball over the defender. Nothing is ever made easy for them
The biggest tell is when they replay every catch we have and they are in isolated routes. Have you seen a replay all season where our receivers caught a pass by breaking the zone of the defense? No, its ALWAYS diggs getting separation, Davis beating his man deep, beasely in traffic, Knox pulling his route and making a great adjustment on the ball
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