We dont need more weapons

[Cali512]

We need a scheme that utilizes these weapons. Do you really think in our scheme we would make the chiefs receiving core work? How would our receivers look for the chiefs? Look at the 49ers. Do you really think Kittle, Deebo, Ajuik would work in our offense?

We keep wanting us to add these weapons to our offense like one will fix something. We can literally trade for Kelce and add another diggs, and our offense the way it is will still not run as efficiently as the chiefs. Our scheme is the issue, not our weapons.


Seriously, imagine Reid with Singletary, Cook, Davis, Mckenzie, Diggs, Knox. Imagine THEM in his offense

Focus on a new Oc, an OL/DL/MLB/S

We dont need a penny spent on weapons until the line and scheme are fixed

[Saratoga Slim]

Honestly, our weapons are pretty similar to the Chiefs at this point. We both have an alpha guy (Diggs/Kelce) and a bunch of role players. Agree that the Dorsey system didn't maximize our talent this year--I blame that for Josh's clear regression. Josh may have tendency to play hero, but Daboll reigned that in last year and found a way to keep Josh on the rails. When he did Josh was arguably the best QB on the planet. Coaching is here to maximize talent, and I don't see how you can argue Dorsey did that.

That said, Cincy, San Francisco, and Philly all have more talent at the skill positions. I'd trade what we have for Chase/Higgins/Mixon, Deebo/McCaffrey/Kittle/Aiyuk, or Brown/Smith/Goedert/Sanders. We do need to upgrade the tools closet.

[kgun12]

We need a scheme that utilizes these weapons. Do you really think in our scheme we would make the chiefs receiving core work? How would our receivers look for the chiefs? Look at the 49ers. Do you really think Kittle, Deebo, Ajuik would work in our offense?

We keep wanting us to add these weapons to our offense like one will fix something. We can literally trade for Kelce and add another diggs, and our offense the way it is will still not run as efficiently as the chiefs. Our scheme is the issue, not our weapons.


Seriously, imagine Reid with Singletary, Cook, Davis, Mckenzie, Diggs, Knox. Imagine THEM in his offense

Focus on a new Oc, an OL/DL/MLB/S

We dont need a penny spent on weapons until the line and scheme are fixed

I agree with this, it’s concerning to me that WR’s run undisciplined routes, it’s concerning to me that Von talks to Davis and it’s news that David caught balls from the Juggs machine like this was a new development, it’s concerning we don’t run the ball more, it’s concerning that we have finally have a quarterback but can’t protect him. It’s concerning that I look at Josh’s eyes and I’m seeing the same confusion and lack of confidence I saw at the end in Losman, Johnson and all the rest at the end of their Bills career. It’s concerning to me that we probably don’t replace Dorsey, it’s concerning that we will probably put a few bandaids on things and nothing changes on offense.

Then there’s the defensive issues!

[justasportsfan]

we bring in Cook , Hines , Beasely (back) and Mckenzie yet we dont know what to do with them. Good thing we didnt bring in McCaffrey

[Historian]

We need a legit #2 receiver, or a legit #1 so Diggs can be #2.

Shakir seems like a fine #3.

[Jeff1220]

Dorsey sucks. With a Defense-minded HC we need a top notch OC, and not a guy trying to figure the job out.

[imbondz]

When was the last time we saw a screen play or slant to Beasley?

[sukie]

Cowherd summed it up. He said Cincy had a game plan. Short quick crisp plays to match down field… Buffalo was just calling plays 3 and out. No plan.

[Mr. Pink]

We obviously need more weapons for Josh.

Why do you think we brought back John Brown and Cole Beasley?

All the WRs after Diggs are complete and total garbage, yes that includes Gabe Davis.

If Gabe Davis stepped up, if McKenzie stepped up then Brown and Beasley wouldn't have needed to be here.

If Singletary and Cook were good enough, then we don't go out and trade for Hines.

This offense is 3 people, Allen Diggs Knox, that's all it has. If the defense takes away Diggs, Knox isn't the Kittle or Kelce type to carry a pass offense on top of the fact then Diggs starts throwing a tantrum.

The OC isn't good but neither is the offensive talent behind those three guys.

[justasportsfan]

We obviously need more weapons for Josh.

Why do you think we brought back John Brown and Cole Beasley?

All the WRs after Diggs are complete and total garbage, yes that includes Gabe Davis.

If Gabe Davis stepped up, if McKenzie stepped up then Brown and Beasley wouldn't have needed to be here.

If Singletary and Cook were good enough, then we don't go out and trade for Hines.

This offense is 3 people, Allen Diggs Knox, that's all it has. If the defense takes away Diggs, Knox isn't the Kittle or Kelce type to carry a pass offense on top of the fact then Diggs starts throwing a tantrum.

The OC isn't good but neither is the offensive talent behind those three guys.

Daboll would've found a way .
Look what he did for Hodgins.

[Jeff1220]

Daboll would've found a way .
Look what he did for Hodgins.

...and for Daniel Jones!

[Mr. Pink]

Daboll would've found a way .
Look what he did for Hodgins.

I dunno, 33 catches, 4 TDs in 8 games isn't exactly a world beater.

Not to mention he completely disappeared in the playoff game against Philly

[Mr. Pink]

...and for Daniel Jones!

Yeah, the Giants 26th ranked pass offense!

He did do a good job of coaching Daniel up to protect the football though, I'll give him credit for that.

[Borosai]

Sure, having a team full of star players would be great, but I agree with the opinion that the OC/scheme is the biggest problem. There's enough skill position talent to win, but the one-dimensional and predictable system wastes most of it.

The OL needs to be upgraded. That's the #1 on-field need. With a legit OC and a really good OL, everyone would look much better.

[sahlensguy]

Dorsey + a defensive minded HC is a dead end to futility.

[sahlensguy]

Cowherd summed it up. He said Cincy had a game plan. Short quick crisp plays to match down field… Buffalo was just calling plays 3 and out. No plan.

We were once a first down gaining juggernaut. 8 or 9 1st down td drives. That was last season and somehow went out the window this year. No patience at all and I blame Dorsey for not reigning in Allen. More mismanagement of a talented qb with a weak foundation to come...

[Woodman]

It hurts when it isn’t good enough so my suggestion make it good enough. We lost 4 consecutive Super Bowls we know disappointment better than anybody. We have an awesome QB get him a line and get him the best QB coach possible. Josh is so close .... making quicker decisions is such a huge part of it. Should we script the 1st 10 to 15 plays for him similar to the Bill Walsh approach? Please don't waste this talent. The Bengals overcame their OL concern with a smart simple approach "get rid of the ball quickly" it covered their weakness and exploited our defense at the same time. Our OC should move on unless he can adapt to condition .... so far he hasn't shown that he can.

[Mr. Pink]

For those of you who just want to blame the OC and sure he deserves some blame as well.

Number 2 scoring offense in 2022, number 3 scoring offense in 2021.

Number 7 passing and number 7 rushing for 2nd overall offense in 2022, number 9 in passing and number 6 in rushing for 5th overall offense in 2021.

As far as reigning Josh Allen in on the hero ball aspect? 14 INTs in 2022, 15 INTs in 2021.

Pretty much exactly the same over the course of an entire season.

Josh Allen makes both Daboll and Dorsey look better than they actually are.

[Woodman]

It hurts when it isn’t good enough so my suggestion make it good enough. We lost 4 consecutive Super Bowls we know disappointment better than anybody. We have an awesome QB get him a line and get him the best QB coach possible. Josh is so close .... making quicker decisions is such a huge part of it. Should we script the 1st 10 to 15 plays for him similar to the Bill Walsh approach? Please don't waste this talent. The Bengals overcame their OL concern with a smart simple approach "get rid of the ball quickly" it covered their weakness and exploited our defense at the same time. Our OC should move on unless he can adapt to condition .... so far he hasn't shown that he can.

Keep it smart keep it simple.

[sukie]

For those of you who just want to blame the OC and sure he deserves some blame as well.

Number 2 scoring offense in 2022, number 3 scoring offense in 2021.

Number 7 passing and number 7 rushing for 2nd overall offense in 2022, number 9 in passing and number 6 in rushing for 5th overall offense in 2021.

As far as reigning Josh Allen in on the hero ball aspect? 14 INTs in 2022, 15 INTs in 2021.

Pretty much exactly the same over the course of an entire season.

Josh Allen makes both Daboll and Dorsey look better than they actually are.

Wish you had the split numbers for last half of 2021 vs last half of 2022. Bills manhandled early opponents