The Fire McDermott Thread

[Mace]

You're not really.

McDermott doesn't make offense or defense calls. He messes up clock management, red flags. He does nothing worth keeping. Name something he does that makes him valuable. There isn't anything.

Steady, unspectacular hand on the helm that makes people feel good with his demeanor and attitude. Not saying it makes him good, it makes him less bad than alternatives. He's successful atm because of the talent level, he's a great person, and we went the much touted 13-3 regular season. It's a timid organization with a timid head coach, but the thought will be that it's working out better than its' falling on its' face because next year might work out better.

He also inserts himself into the defense and said so over 13 seconds.

Daboll kind of proved this year that he's more ballsy with less talent in NY, so someone was directing him here.

They're going to run this into the ground, stale.

[Typ0]

He's a fifth year vet with a big contract...he should have developed that discipline by now. Burrow and Mahomes have. If Josh hasn't, that's on him.

How do you know it's not on McDermott?

[sahlensguy]

It's his first year as OC and the offensive production wasn't much different. The dumb throws and turnovers were, though.

There was, especially in the beginning of the year, continuity since Daboll and focus because of the new guy and a chip from the Chiefs loss. Once that all wore off, Dorsey brought absolutely nothing. The decline of the offense is as much on him as anybody.

[sahlensguy]

That is ridiculous and I'm not trying to defend his play. Burrow had all day to throw. Josh had someone in his face all day. Swap QB's and the results the same.

Wrong. Just wrong.

[notacon]

Post Removed ~DB

Hmmmmmmmm. I’m not a betting man, but I’d be willing bet you that McDermott does NOT get fired this offseason.

If he does, I’ll leave this site forever.

If he is still HC by the start of training camp, YOU leave this site forever.

Put your “money" where your mouth is or STFU!!!

[YardRat]

How do you know it's not on McDermott?

Because McDermott isn't the one making the pre- and post-snap reads, going through the progressions and deciding where to throw the ball.

[sahlensguy]

That's horse-****.

He's a fifth-year veteran that has seen just about everything he's going to see.

No coordinator is going to push a button and stop Josh from chucking the ball downfield to a covered receiver instead of hitting one of the other three that are wide open over the middle or in the flats. That's all Josh.

Mahomes has Andy Reid who gave him the softest landing g into the NFL possible. PM went to the perfect spot for his success.

Burrow was a highly successful high school recruit and had 4 years of college ball winning the MVP and the National title.

Both have solid foundations.

Josh's foundation, or lack thereof, is well documented. Wanted by no one except 1. Played in a cast-off conference in the least populated state in the lower 48. Raw talent coming into the NFL with questionable mechanics.

Daboll was his cheap man's Andy Reid, but at least it was something.

And now Josh has an OC who is still finding himself in this league and a defensive minded HC. It's no surprise that Josh is reverting to bad form. The foundation isn't there to be on his own and I saw this coming.

[sahlensguy]

Because McDermott isn't the one making the pre- and post-snap reads, going through the progressions and deciding where to throw the ball.

Josh lacks coaching. Even if you think he should know it all by now.

[Novacane]

Wrong. Just wrong.

Bull ****. We didn't lay a hand on Burrow. Josh was bleeding from being pummeled. I'm sure you'll say there were plays he had time. So what. I'm not defending him. He played like crap too. I'm just saying the statement that the Bills would of won with Burrow is asinine.

[sahlensguy]

Bull ****. We didn't lay a hand on Burrow. Josh was bleeding from being pummeled. I'm sure you'll say there were plays he had time. So what. I'm not defending him. He played like crap too. I'm just saying the statement that the Bills would of won with Burrow is asinine.

Sorry. I thought I replied to Yardrat. I agree with you!

[Novacane]

No one showed up for the Bills.

[sahlensguy]

No one showed up for the Bills.

No one. Including Allen and Burrow wouldn't have made a difference.

[swiper]

Hmmmmmmmm. I’m not a betting man, but I’d be willing bet you that McDermott does NOT get fired this offseason.

If he does, I’ll leave this site forever.

If he is still HC by the start of training camp, YOU leave this site forever.

Put your “money" where your mouth is or STFU!!!

I don't expect he'll get fired, but he should. You're reading comprehension is as poor as your football acumen.

[YardRat]

Mahomes has Andy Reid who gave him the softest landing g into the NFL possible. PM went to the perfect spot for his success.

Burrow was a highly successful high school recruit and had 4 years of college ball winning the MVP and the National title.

Both have solid foundations.

Josh's foundation, or lack thereof, is well documented. Wanted by no one except 1. Played in a cast-off conference in the least populated state in the lower 48. Raw talent coming into the NFL with questionable mechanics.

Daboll was his cheap man's Andy Reid, but at least it was something.

And now Josh has an OC who is still finding himself in this league and a defensive minded HC. It's no surprise that Josh is reverting to bad form. The foundation isn't there to be on his own and I saw this coming.

Josh's foundation was putting in the work to get where he wanted to be. Constantly improving because he was putting in the time and effort. That may not be a foundation that has a pedigree or a coddling coach but it's still the foundation that led to him walking off the field in the KC loss as the best player in the entire league. Instead of building on that, he regressed, and he doesn't need a babysitter to make him aware of that.

5 years of observations of 'we lost' or 'we didn't win like we should have' because of 'Dumb Josh', 'Bad Josh', and 'Hero Ball Josh' showing up and all of sudden it becomes "NOT JOSH'S FAULT, FIRE THE COACHES!!"

[YardRat]

Bull ****. We didn't lay a hand on Burrow. Josh was bleeding from being pummeled. I'm sure you'll say there were plays he had time. So what. I'm not defending him. He played like crap too. I'm just saying the statement that the Bills would of won with Burrow is asinine.

Burrow embarrassed our 'top ranked defense' behind a line of second team scrubs by getting the ball out quick and not making himself a sitting duck. That was a huge factor in the outcome.

[YardRat]

Look, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade Josh Allen for any QB in the league. It sucks to look at KC and Cincinnati and admit we're just not that good. It sucks to look at Mahomes and Burrow and say Josh just isn't that good. But that is the reality we watched on Sunday and live with today.

Josh regressed this season and he failed to take that next step that Mahomes and Burrow already have. He needs to correct that and come back next year and play at the level that puts us and him back into the conversation.

And that's on him. Not coaching. Not the rest of the roster. Him.

[DraftBoy]

Look, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade Josh Allen for any QB in the league. It sucks to look at KC and Cincinnati and admit we're just not that good. It sucks to look at Mahomes and Burrow and say Josh just isn't that good. But that is the reality we watched on Sunday and live with today.

Josh regressed this season and he failed to take that next step that Mahomes and Burrow already have. He needs to correct that and come back next year and play at the level that puts us and him back into the conversation.

And that's on him. Not coaching. Not the rest of the roster. Him.

I’d trade Josh for Mahomes and not even have to think about it. That’s not a shot against Josh, he’s just not at his level right now.

[Buffalogic]

I’d trade Josh for Mahomes and not even have to think about it. That’s not a shot against Josh, he’s just not at his level right now.

Meanwhile chad henne goes 98 yards like it's nothing as soon as mahomes exits.

[imbondz]

That is ridiculous and I'm not trying to defend his play. Burrow had all day to throw. Josh had someone in his face all day. Swap QB's and the results the same.

1000% correct. Ravens were in Burrows face all game and they won on a lucky defensive play.

[Novacane]

Burrow embarrassed our 'top ranked defense' behind a line of second team scrubs by getting the ball out quick and not making himself a sitting duck. That was a huge factor in the outcome.

And the times the quick throws weren't open he still had all day to find his 2nd or 3rd option. I'm not defending Josh. His bombs away mentality is pissing me off too. Someway somehow that has to change. I just vehemently disagree that putting Burrow on the Bills and changing nothing else would have changed the outcome.