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  • Mace
    Haha...yeah you think so ?
    • Mar 2013
    • 20315

    Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

    Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
    That implies we make changes during halftime. We are more the trust the process and stay the course type.
    Interesting read on "halftime adjustments".

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    • Typ0
      honey pie
      • Jul 2002
      • 32592

      Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

      Originally posted by Mace View Post
      Interesting read on "halftime adjustments".

      https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...gyiauufuhrbxp0
      I saw that! But it's from the players perspective not the coaches. It gives the coaches 5 minutes to decompress and compare notes and discuss what they have been thinking throughout the first half. It gives all the decision makers the ability to open up and gather some input from other skilled people. That is what my perception of half-time adjustments are because from that meeting you can emerge with a consistent plan of adjustment you can present to the team. How you present it...well they might not even know.

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      • Historian
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        • Dec 2002
        • 61715

        Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

        Marv used to say that there is little time at the half for strategy and speeches.

        Most of the time the players are in the can taking a dump.

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        • YardRat
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          • Dec 2004
          • 86155

          Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

          Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
          Easy for you to say but I bet if Josh got a new pilot's license and the FAA told him "good job, you don't need us anymore", you wouldn't want to be a passenger on the plane he was flying, too often.

          Do you have other examples of players in sports who have had the rise that Josh has had and then still excelled with the lack of coaching/players/scheme?
          I'd be very comfortable knowing he has five years of experience flying under his belt.

          Allen wasn't just handed the starting job this Sunday, so your analogy is very poor.
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          • YardRat
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            • Dec 2004
            • 86155

            Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

            Originally posted by Historian View Post
            One cannot discount the injuroes on that side of the ball.

            Poyer was playing on a torn knee.

            Losing Hyde was huge.

            Losing Miller was an early playoff exit.

            Sorry Keith, I think 14-4 is a good team....and I still have nightmares of watching Chan Gailey and Rex Ryan.
            The injuries this year are irrelevant to the defense ****ting the bed three years in a row in the playoffs.

            This past Sunday wasn't an anomaly due to extenuating circumstances...it was a continuation of a trend.
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            • YardRat
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              • Dec 2004
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              Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

              Originally posted by Historian View Post
              Marv used to say that there is little time at the half for strategy and speeches.

              Most of the time the players are in the can taking a dump.
              Walt Corey ditched his fancy game plan and went back to a base 3-4 for the last two quarters of the comeback.

              There is no way coaches aren't making adjustments at half time, even if the Mannings are sucking oranges on the ****ter.
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              • Mace
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                • Mar 2013
                • 20315

                Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                Walt Corey ditched his fancy game plan and went back to a base 3-4 for the last two quarters of the comeback.

                There is no way coaches aren't making adjustments at half time, even if the Mannings are sucking oranges on the ****ter.
                Well, why do you think he didn't do that on the field ?

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                • YardRat
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                  • Dec 2004
                  • 86155

                  Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                  Originally posted by Mace View Post
                  Well, why do you think he didn't do that on the field ?
                  Suck an orange and ****? That would have been inappropriate.
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                  • Typ0
                    honey pie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 32592

                    Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                    You don't have to meet with the team to implement half time adjustments. This isn't a movie! They can meet with players during the 3rd quarter if and when desired to implement whatever halftime adjustments they deem appropriate. Players individually or as a group. All of these professionals are busting our asses with the half time adjustment discussion. Half time adjustments are involved with how you implement the game plan in the second half. That process continues until the game is over. It is not a static thing half-time adjustments. Plus, now they have zoom so everyone can be taking a dump while they have a team meeting!

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                    • starrymessenger
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                      • Oct 2009
                      • 740

                      Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                      Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                      What on earth has Dorsey EVER done to warrant this pass?
                      Dorsey is a child. Has no business being where he is. He is totally incompetent and a nut case as well.
                      I miss Daboll.

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                      • starrymessenger
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 740

                        Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                        Those who say Josh has been a problem are correct. Dorsey's job is to make sure Josh isn't a problem. He has no clue how to do that. Daboll was good at it. QB whisperer.
                        Last edited by starrymessenger; 01-24-2023, 09:10 PM.

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                        • Historian
                          2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 61715

                          Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                          Regardless...one of the things Beane said in yesterday's presser was essentially:

                          We're not going to base our evaluations of any payer or staff member based on one game.

                          They will look at the season as a complete body of work.

                          I hope so, because Dorsey's playcalling was curious, if not outright odd the entire season, even more so in the games we won.

                          Because we won most of them.

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                          • CommissarSpartacus
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 53848

                            Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                            We lost 3 games in the regular season by a grand total of EIGHT points.

                            I'd say Dorsey did pretty good job.

                            Remember, Dorsey and Frazier are offensive and defensive COORDINATORS.

                            They have a boss.
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                            • sahlensguy
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                              • Mar 2015
                              • 13467

                              Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                              Originally posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
                              We lost 3 games in the regular season by a grand total of EIGHT points.

                              I'd say Dorsey did pretty good job.

                              Remember, Dorsey and Frazier are offensive and defensive COORDINATORS.

                              They have a boss.
                              Did you watch the games?

                              Put no one away since early October. Lacked flow. Lacked identity. Allen regressed after the Chiefs game. Red zone efficiency was in the toilet. OC throwing a tantrum like a lunatic.

                              Games were close in spite of Dorsey.

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                              • Forward_Lateral
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                                • Mar 2004
                                • 29895

                                Re: The Fire McDermott Thread

                                Originally posted by CommissarSpartacus View Post
                                We lost 3 games in the regular season by a grand total of EIGHT points.

                                I'd say Dorsey did pretty good job.

                                Remember, Dorsey and Frazier are offensive and defensive COORDINATORS.

                                They have a boss.
                                You must be new to watching football, because you sure are acting like it.

                                The first people to get fired are the Co-ordinators. That's just how it works. They aren't going to just fire McDermott, who has the highest winning % in Bills history, without giving him multiple chances to rectify problems himself first.

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