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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    Yea, I mean, come on let's not go off the deep end.

    It's still the Bengals, and they're still owned by Mike Brown.

    Remember fraidy cat?

    Won't be long before he's back.



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    I forget who told the story, but it was an ex Bengal on someone's podcast saying how the Bengals were so cheap that they had Gatorate/Water machines in the locker room that players had to pay for if they wanted to drink anything. I also remember something about used jocks. All kinds of stories about Brown being the cheapest a-hole walking.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    "I don't want to suck bad enough to have to get Ja'Marr Chase"

    Well Beane...you may have come close if you didn't luck out on drafting Josh Allen.
    Jesus. There was no “luck” in drafting Josh Allen....that was all skill by Brandon Beane.

    There was no “luck” in Cincy being able to draft Joe Burrow. That was a no brainer. Any 13 year old would have made that pick.

    They just had to SUCK TO HIGH HEAVEN. Something the Buffalo Bills have not SUCKED so badly to get the #1 pick in THIRTY SEVEN YEARS.....1985.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    They've never "pushed all of their chips to the middle".
    I don't know... In the months leading up to the 2009 season, the Bills extended Dick Jauron, Lee Evans, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Terrence McGee and signed Terrell Owens.

    If that's not all in then I don't know what is..

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    My biggest, and atm, only gripe with Beane is how he made a point of saying this year was intended to protect Josh Allen, and then he went out and collected a bunch of discards to do it, again. This has been pattern for 6 years, look, if there is something wrong with your OL college scouting, address it already, because your pro personnel scouting isn't doing any better.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    I don't know... In the months leading up to the 2009 season, the Bills extended Dick Jauron, Lee Evans, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Terrence McGee and signed Terrell Owens.

    If that's not all in then I don't know what is..
    Well....ah....."Dick Jauron". It starts and ends there. Bad bet.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    Jesus. There was no “luck” in drafting Josh Allen....that was all skill by Brandon Beane.

    There was no “luck” in Cincy being able to draft Joe Burrow. That was a no brainer. Any 13 year old would have made that pick.

    They just had to SUCK TO HIGH HEAVEN. Something the Buffalo Bills have not SUCKED so badly to get the #1 pick in THIRTY SEVEN YEARS.....1985.
    The Bills weren't even good at sucking.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    I forget who told the story, but it was an ex Bengal on someone's podcast saying how the Bengals were so cheap that they had Gatorate/Water machines in the locker room that players had to pay for if they wanted to drink anything. I also remember something about used jocks. All kinds of stories about Brown being the cheapest a-hole walking.
    Reminds me of Ralph Wilson. Who let the first three years of Jim Kelly’s career go to waste in the USFL because he refused to pay him (no NFLPA/NFL CBA to force him to pony up)

    Wilson ran the team with a bean counter in control. The counting of the beans was WAY more important than fielding a consistent contender. Bill Polian was fired because of a power struggle between him and the bean counter from Detroit, who was NOT a football man.

    The bean counter won.

    The Bengals are lucky that today, it’s hard to be a cheapskate when rookie contracts are literally forced on the team via draft and player position and the CBA.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    The Bills weren't even good at sucking.
    So true.

    They were good at going 6-10 or 7-9 and winning just enough to both give us fans "hope for next season" and ruin their draft position, always ending up in the middle of the first round and then missing on about 19 first round picks in a row

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Well....ah....."Dick Jauron". It starts and ends there. Bad bet.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    For decades, the Bengals were the laughingstock of the league (yes, the Bills were right there too), and probably have the worst owner in the NFL (Mike Brown). They have never won a Super Bowl.

    Yes, we had some horrible head coaches - but imagine having Marvin Lewis as your head coach for over 15 years... I guess time will tell if we have the white Marvin Lewis as our HC.

    After 3 decades the Bengals finally hit on the right players. Good for them. The Bills should focus on their own issues and how to fix them.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Well....ah....."Dick Jauron". It starts and ends there. Bad bet.
    Those were the good times.

    Joe Collier....1966 to 1968....he was fired two games into the 1968 season (0-2), and replaced by Bills personnel director as interim HC....Harvey....

    Harvey Johnson....TWICE first in 1968 (1-10-1) (to replace Joe Collier) and then brought back in 1971 (1-13) after.....

    John Rauch (the brilliant coach that wanted to use OJ Simpson as a “decoy” instead of having him run the ball)...1969 (4-10) and 1970 (3-10-1). He was not fired after those two **** season....he resigned on July 20, 1971 (the day before training camp opened) after a “heated discussion" with Wilson because Rauch complained, in public, about Wilson trading Ron McDole and cutting Paul Maguire (without telling Rauch).


    Harvey gets his second stint for 1971 season (1-13). “It was speculated that Johnson’s love of thoroughbred horse racing, a passion he shared with owner Ralph Wilson, allowed him to stay on the Bills payroll despite his poor performance in coaching"

    Jim Ringo - 1976 - replacing Lou Saban who resigned after 5 games in....guess what....a disagreement with Ralph Wilson. He proceeded to end the 1976 season 0-9. 1977 he “led” the team to a 3-11 record.

    Kay Stephenson - 1983 (8-8) 1984 (2-14) Fired after going 0-4 to start 1985 season....replaced by....

    Hank Bullough - 1985 & 1986. Named HC in October of 1985 after Kay was fired. Hank went 2-10 after taking over from Stephenson, and 2-7 in 1986 before being fired and replaced by Marv Levy.

    All of those slugs (expect Levy) make Dick Jauron look brilliant.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    I'm not being critical of the move because I like Diggs, but if Beane didn't pull the trigger on the trade he'd have Jefferson on his cheaper rookie deal still. So, he pretty much made that bed himself.
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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    I'm not being critical of the move because I like Diggs, but if Beane didn't pull the trigger on the trade he'd have Jefferson on his cheaper rookie deal still. So, he pretty much made that bed himself.
    The Diggs trade brought legitimacy to this offense which benefited Allen's development greatly. It was the right trade at the time.

    Diggs' extension? Now that's another story.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    I'm not being critical of the move because I like Diggs, but if Beane didn't pull the trigger on the trade he'd have Jefferson on his cheaper rookie deal still. So, he pretty much made that bed himself.
    Are you certain he takes Jefferson as aiyuk and higgins were the next 2 taken

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    The Diggs trade brought legitimacy to this offense which benefited Allen's development greatly. It was the right trade at the time.

    Diggs' extension? Now that's another story.
    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloBlitz83 View Post
    Are you certain he takes Jefferson as aiyuk and higgins were the next 2 taken
    I'm not criticizing the trade, just pointing out Beane could have a stud receiver with a rookie contract on the roster right now if he had done things differently so he really can't use "yeah, but" as an excuse.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    I think the argument is silly.

    I'm not giving back all the wins achieved thanks to Digg's skills, not to mention all the thrilling catches, just because he costs more than the guy from Cinci.

    I like the team we have, but Davis has not panned out, so my first pick would be the best WR on the board at 27.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    I think the argument is silly.

    I'm not giving back all the wins achieved thanks to Digg's skills, not to mention all the thrilling catches, just because he costs more than the guy from Cinci.

    I like the team we have, but Davis has not panned out, so my first pick would be the best WR on the board at 27.
    I agree, except for the draft a WR in the first part.

    IF there's one that they can't pass up on, then I will be fine with it. If they just draft one for the sake of drafting one, I won't be.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    It's too difficult to compare things with hindsight. As for Diggs vs. Jefferson, does a rookie (Jefferson) come in an help Josh's development, or does sugar-high Josh stunt Jefferson's development? As it was, Josh had a vet WR in Diggs to help him and Jefferson had a vet QB in Cousins to help his.

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    Re: Beane End of the Season Presser

    Allen Lazard is a perfect slot wr. If Rodgers moves on... I can see a GB rebuild and not paying a slot wr

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