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The Bengals had the 1st and 5th overall picks I sure hope they ****ing hit.
That's to their advantage for now of course.
“It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”
"It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you" Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist pollshowing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.
"They (Cinci) had some lean years ... and they got Burrows #1 over all and Chase pretty high ..."
Hindsight is 20-20. And it's true I'm not saying it's all Beane's fault. 2017 to 2018 FA movement, trades, and draft are brilliant for McDermott/Beane. The Bills had one lean year after getting Josh and they got Ed Oliver (what if they had gotten Jeffrey Simmons or Christian Wilkins). Then if they had drafted Jefferson instead of trading for Diggs, they might have a bigger window because you don't have to account for Diggs cap for 14+ to 25 million in the first 5 years.
Bottom line super bowl winners typically have a few HOF performers on their team. The Bills have Josh, maybe a half (Miller in his twilight career). Until they draft one big timer, we might be in this also-run for awhile.
Yeah....they got them (Burrow and Chase that Lexwhat mentioned in this post) because they were worst team in the NFL n 2019....dead last with a dismal 2-14 record, and 4th worst team in the NFL in 2020, with another dismal record of 4-11-1.
We like to bemoan how “terrible” the Bills were during the drought, but they were NOT even close to that bad as Cincy was those two seasons.
In FACT, the last time the Bills had such a dismal multi-year record was 1984 to 1986. 2-14, 2-14 & 4-12.
Of course that fueled their rise to a 4-time AFC Champion with advantageous draft picks.
And today, having high draft picks is even more critical than it was in the 80’s, because of the cap, and virtually dictated rookie contracts depending on draft placement and playoff position. There are NO holdouts of draft picks anymore.
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It takes more skill to field a perennial contender after the rookie contracts are over, especially for a franchise QB, but is not even close to impossible (no matter that Opi says), and we are about to find out if Beane has that skill.
Bills General Manager Brandon Beane says one of the reasons it’s tough to keep pace with the Bengals is that Cincinnati has its best players on inexpensive rookie contracts, while Buffalo does not.
“They right now are on the advantage of a rookie quarterback contract,” Beane said of Joe Burrow. “They had some lean years, and without getting too much into their build, I don’t want to suck bad enough to have to get Ja’Marr Chase. He’s a heck of a talent, I’d love to have him, but you got to go through some lean years to do that. They were able to get Burrow No. 1 and Chase [No. 5] and those guys are on their rookie deals. We’re paying Stefon Diggs a pretty hefty number. We’re paying Josh Allen a pretty hefty number. So there is the constraints of the cap. They have a really good team and they’ve got some good young players. We’re gonna try to get as many players as we can through the draft and through free agency, but again, our cap situation is a little different.”
No, it’s not a case of "Cinci built a better team with less money”, but moreaccurately Cincy built a good team because they SUCKED so badly, got extremely high draft pick positions, and now have these stars on NFLPA/NFLCBA imposed below market value for players on rookie contracts.
The Bengals had the #1 overall pick in 2020 (Joe Burrow, 1st pick 1st round, Tee Higgins, 1st pick, 2nd round, Logan Wilson, 1st pick, 3rd round) and the #5 pick in 2021 (Ja’Marr Chase 5th pick 1st round) because they sucked so badly.
The last time the Buffalo Bills had a draft pick in the top 5 (without trading up) was 2011, Marcell Darius, 3rd pick, round #1.
The last time the Buffalo Bills had the #1 overall pick was 1985, Bruce Smith.
The only reason the Bills were able to draft Josh Allen with the #7 pick is that they had to wheel and deal for TWO SEASONS to get into that position.
The NFL is dedicated to lifting up teams that suck, and holding down teams that are good. And the cap makes it very difficult to maintain consistent Super Bowl winning (or even getting there) teams.
Burrow’s cap number is $11.5M for 2023. When they pick up his fifth year option, it will be around only $30M for 2024. Ja'Marr Chase’s cap number for 2023 is only $8M...9.8M for 2024. His fifth year option number will probably be in the mid-teens for 2025.
Burrow AND Chase cap number for 2023....combined....$19.9M
Josh Allen & Diggs cap number for 2023....combined....$59.9M....THREE TIMES MORE!!! That’s the reality of the NFL today.
I forget who told the story, but it was an ex Bengal on someone's podcast saying how the Bengals were so cheap that they had Gatorate/Water machines in the locker room that players had to pay for if they wanted to drink anything. I also remember something about used jocks. All kinds of stories about Brown being the cheapest a-hole walking.
They've never "pushed all of their chips to the middle".
I don't know... In the months leading up to the 2009 season, the Bills extended Dick Jauron, Lee Evans, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Terrence McGee and signed Terrell Owens.
My biggest, and atm, only gripe with Beane is how he made a point of saying this year was intended to protect Josh Allen, and then he went out and collected a bunch of discards to do it, again. This has been pattern for 6 years, look, if there is something wrong with your OL college scouting, address it already, because your pro personnel scouting isn't doing any better.
“It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”
"It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you" Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist pollshowing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.
I don't know... In the months leading up to the 2009 season, the Bills extended Dick Jauron, Lee Evans, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Terrence McGee and signed Terrell Owens.
If that's not all in then I don't know what is..
Well....ah....."Dick Jauron". It starts and ends there. Bad bet.
I forget who told the story, but it was an ex Bengal on someone's podcast saying how the Bengals were so cheap that they had Gatorate/Water machines in the locker room that players had to pay for if they wanted to drink anything. I also remember something about used jocks. All kinds of stories about Brown being the cheapest a-hole walking.
Reminds me of Ralph Wilson. Who let the first three years of Jim Kelly’s career go to waste in the USFL because he refused to pay him (no NFLPA/NFL CBA to force him to pony up)
Wilson ran the team with a bean counter in control. The counting of the beans was WAY more important than fielding a consistent contender. Bill Polian was fired because of a power struggle between him and the bean counter from Detroit, who was NOT a football man.
The bean counter won.
The Bengals are lucky that today, it’s hard to be a cheapskate when rookie contracts are literally forced on the team via draft and player position and the CBA.
They were good at going 6-10 or 7-9 and winning just enough to both give us fans "hope for next season" and ruin their draft position, always ending up in the middle of the first round and then missing on about 19 first round picks in a row
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