Gabe Davis Catch Rate is Hideous

[ParanoidAndroid]

I think part of the issue is scheme and his role in it.

Lots of contested balls on deep throws.

This passing attack never had rhythm like it did under Daboll.

[kgun12]

No. I'm questioning the stat and the post that alluded to how targets mean the ball was catchable.

I'm not arguing that Gabe wasn't a disappointment this year.

He was and he had key drops.

I simply mean that target % isn't all on the WR.

Yet Diggs has no problem.

[sukie]

I think part of the issue is scheme and his role in it.

Lots of contested balls on deep throws.

This passing attack never had rhythm like it did under Daboll.

Could it be poor route running or crappy routes to run?

[BuffaloBlitz83]

No. I'm questioning the stat and the post that alluded to how targets mean the ball was catchable.

I'm not arguing that Gabe wasn't a disappointment this year.

He was and he had key drops.

I simply mean that target % isn't all on the WR.

Why is it so much lower than Beasely and Diggs. Not close.

Khalil Shakir’s numbers. Including the postseason, he dropped two passes on 21 targets, one being an overturned catch in Sunday’s Wild Cardgame.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

I think part of the issue is scheme and his role in it.

Lots of contested balls on deep throws.

This passing attack never had rhythm like it did under Daboll.

The percentage on Gabe was his career. Not this year alone

[sahlensguy]

Davonte Adams had a 55.6% catch rate according to Lineups (180 targets and 100 catches.)

Anyone else giving this the side eye?

Davis did not pass the eye test.

[TacklingDummy]

David would have caused a drop or INT on that 98 yarder that Fitzpatrick caught for him.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Why is it so much lower than Beasely and Diggs. Not close.

He doesn't get short crossers. He gets low percentage deep/intermediate routes. Your slot guy better have a higher catch rate since he's running 5 and 10-yard routes. Beasley had one of the worst drops of the year vs Miami. Diggs is a top 5 WR in this league.

Yet Diggs has no problem.

Diggs is one of the best receivers in the league and his numbers fell off a cliff as the year went on. Gabe started this season hot if you remember.

The percentage on Gabe was his career. Not this year alone

As for a career, players develop in a system. Gabe will have these amazing toe drag catches and then drop the next one. Why we aren't using him underneath as a big bodied outlet more often is beyond me.

Our receivers constantly have to adjust to throws and never get yac.

Why is that?
This is simply one of those instances on this forum where we overreact.

Davis is a decent WR and we wanted him to be great.

He didn't deliver but I also don't think we should be looking at his catch per target rate to try to say he's terrible.

[ParanoidAndroid]

David would have caused a drop or INT on that 98 yarder that Fitzpatrick caught for him.

That wasn't the 98 yarder. That was his second bomb later in the game. That ball was thrown into a contested situation that Gabe won. It was an excellent play by Gabe so, I'm not sure what your point is, here.

[Typ0]

He doesn't get short crossers. He gets low percentage deep/intermediate routes. Your slot guy better have a higher catch rate since he's running 5 and 10-yard routes. Beasley had one of the worst drops of the year vs Miami. Diggs is a top 5 WR in this league.


Diggs is one of the best receivers in the league and his numbers fell off a cliff as the year went on. Gabe started this season hot if you remember.

As for a career, players develop in a system. Gabe will have these amazing toe drag catches and then drop the next one. Why we aren't using him underneath as a big bodied outlet more often is beyond me.

Our receivers constantly have to adjust to throws and never get yac.

Why is that?
This is simply one of those instances on this forum where we overreact.

Davis is a decent WR and we wanted him to be great.

He didn't deliver but I also don't think we should be looking at his catch per target rate to try to say he's terrible.

That's our whole team though ... focused on the huge stuff and can't seem to execute simple little football ****. There is a lot of simple little football **** we don't even do ... it must be magic coaching that exempts us.

[ParanoidAndroid]

That's our whole team though ... focused on the huge stuff and can't seem to execute simple little football ****. There is a lot of simple little football **** we don't even do ... it must be magic coaching that exempts us.

This is a good take. 100% agree. This team is inconsistent as hell.

[TacklingDummy]

That wasn't the 98 yarder. That was his second bomb later in the game. That ball was thrown into a contested situation that Gabe won. It was an excellent play by Gabe so, I'm not sure what your point is, here.

Thanks, mixed them up.

Gabe tipped the ball, Fitzpatrick actually was the one who caught it, Gabe made a great play to make up for his mistake and ripped the ball away.

[Mace]

I think part of the issue is scheme and his role in it.

Lots of contested balls on deep throws.

This passing attack never had rhythm like it did under Daboll.

The passing attack had a rhythm like Aerosmith's version of "Train Kept a Rollin'" ......up until the bye. After that it became a lawnmower in grass that's too high for it.

[Historian]

It is if it hits him between the 1 and the 3 and he drops it.

[TacklingDummy]

It is if it hits him between the 1 and the 3 and he drops it.

So the one in the Jets game that hit him in the face and the 1 in the Miami game that hit him in the hands do not count as drops?

[YardRat]

That's our whole team though ... focused on the huge stuff and can't seem to execute simple little football ****. There is a lot of simple little football **** we don't even do ... it must be magic coaching that exempts us.

A lot of that is on Josh. Take the shorter, open route more often. A little more surgery, a little less chuck it deep and hope the receiver comes down withe ball.

[Woodman]

Always take what they're handing out for free.

[Typ0]

A lot of that is on Josh. Take the shorter, open route more often. A little more surgery, a little less chuck it deep and hope the receiver comes down withe ball.

It's either:

a) that's what he was coached to do.

b) when he starts doing it the coach does something to rectify it.

c) the coaches have very little control of the team. Things are disorganized and haphazard. It causes a lot of communication issues and dysfunction.

which is is?

[Ingtar33]

Do any of those percentages reflect when the QB overthrows or throws the pass away?

I saw the rate of catches on different depths... 5-10 11-20, so on and so forth. he has legit the lowest catch rate of any WR at pretty much every depth of pass in the NFL, meanwhile diggs is at the top of the list, and beasley with buffalo is at or higher then his career average.

meaning?

JA isn't the problem, the problem is davis has hands of stone.

btw: mckenzie isn't much different.


and it's not just the hands that arre the problem, mckenzie and davis regularly run the worst routes I've ever seen, sometimes the wrong ones but often just bad routes. It ruins the whole play as drawn up if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. it makes your QB play hero ball, because he just looked to you, planning to throw it because it's a cover 3 look and your route should be open, but you ran such an awful route, you're not in the right place and are covered... now JA has a pocket collapsing and he needs to start to run for it. Don't get me wrong, JA sometimes doesn't see the field right, but it's a lot less common then you'd think, the wrs running terrible routes however is an every play problem. it's why JA got Beasley and Brown back. He couldn't handle those two numbskulls ****ing it up every down.

[Frenchman]

A lot has to do with the rise of Stefon Diggs and also in the lack of effort.