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Josh allens footwork gets progressively bad every year
Re: Josh allens footwork gets progressively bad every year
Firstly. Footwork is the one thing that EVERYONE acknowledges was the biggest difference from year 3 to year 4. Every year he goes through a stretch where he goes up and down, while its usually around the time where his footwork goes from how it is in the beginning of the year, to year 2 Josh fundamentals. Year 2 josh still made all these incredible plays a few times a game, but hes his best when he's consistently using the footwork that palmer gave him
I even showed some plays of good footwork with ints and bad footwork with tds. Its the consistency im talking about. Most of his worst plays or most innacurate games, are the ones where his footwork isn't consistent all game. Every year his footwork is extremely consistent through the first 4-5 weeks, and thats the time where hes usually playing the best he did all season
Yes he gets away with it. The KC and New England playoff game it was all over the place. Yet hes a freak so he sometimes can make it work. He had **** footowork year 2 vs dallas and the final patriots game that season. But the consistency is the reason he made the change in the first place. When your not being consistent with your throwing motion (even his arm gets a different motion) than your decision making becomes worse because your whole body is thrown off. Allens the only QB in the nfl that is extremely consistent with his motion throughout the course of the season. Hes also the most inconsistent with his highs and lows
Also this has been going on for 3 years, it doesnt have anything to do with his injury. That may of played a role in his decision making which may of got his mind all ****ed where he started losing fundamentals. But that doesnt explain why it dramatically changes through the course of every season, or the fact that his good footwork is actually putting less strain on his arm rather than when he throws the other ball with all arm
Its like having a daily routine. Sure you may have some of the best days of your life when you dont do the routine here and there. But eventually it catches up to you, then you realize you need that routine to consistently have better mental health every day. QBs need to develop a throwing motion and consistently do that. Just like nba free throw routines. Everything is about consistency in sports, you need that. He just developed it so if your not consistently doing it, your muscle memory will be thrown off.
He needs to consistently do it, even if he has a bad game with it, and a great game without it. Hes most consistent during the start of the season when his fundamentals are usually the most consistent.
Its a big deal. Yes hes a freak and he sometimes plays great without it, but its about consistency. Every QB in the nfl has been using a motion theyve used since high school. Allen has not, so he has to be consistent with it or its going to throw him off. Once again, there is a reason that the season he mapped out his motion and changed it is when his completion percentage dramatically improved.
Wasn’t Josh the hands down favorite for MVP by almost everyone on the board and the national media until around week 9-10? I also think we were the SB Champions until that same point by all the same aforementioned people. Then Josh hurt his elbow and everything change, right ir wrong? Now his career is in b trouble, WOW!
? No one is saying this
Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
Re: Josh allens footwork gets progressively bad every year
Please everyone watch this video. It shows some plays in the beginning of the season vs late in the season this year. Its just a minute long. His base is better, hes not whipping his arm to his side. When his motion is at his best is when he carries his hips, and he doesnt whip his arm. His arm when at his best is tight and stops around the 17, when its off, it goes all the way to his other hip in a whip. Thats how his control becomes off
Im not picking and choosing what to show. You can literally go to all the videos i showed that showcase games from early in the season, than late, and you see it clearly
Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
Ive been asking this the last 3 weeks and no one can answer it. Name more than 3 run plays we ran with our RBs past week 3? We had 3 runs in our playbook all season. Completely abandoned toss plays and stretch plays after week 3
Shotgun to the B gap, shotgun to C game, single back power
Thats the only 3 plays we for our rbs after week 3
I also believe the shotgun runs were actually RPOs
Please everyone watch this video. It shows some plays in the beginning of the season vs late in the season this year. Its just a minute long. His base is better, hes not whipping his arm to his side. When his motion is at his best is when he carries his hips, and he doesnt whip his arm. His arm when at his best is tight and stops around the 17, when its off, it goes all the way to his other hip in a whip. Thats how his control becomes off
Im not picking and choosing what to show. You can literally go to all the videos i showed that showcase games from early in the season, than late, and you see it clearly
Please, we all acknowledge he has issues, but some of us understand they were because of the injuries and the decline of the line and Dorsey’s bad play calling.
Please, we all acknowledge he has issues, but some of us understand they were because of the injuries and the decline of the line and Dorsey’s bad play calling.
What is your point?
Explain why this has happened every year for the past 3 years? I really dont think you even read my post
It got better vs NE in the last game, it was good first half vs miami in the playoffs. Second half vs miami it went off the rails again
I mapped all this out with videos from the last 3 years, i dont get why this is so confusing to you. Its not his arm, it may have a little to do with the OL, but it happens every year where he consistently is inconsistent with his fundamentals
If its to many videos for you to watch, then just watch the video i made from the last post, then watch the 2020 interceptions and 2022 interceptions. Its like 6-7 minutes to watch all of them. It shows the progression of inconsistency throught the years
I do read your posts but what’s the point and what do you want us to say, seriously what’s the point of telling us the same thing over and over?
Whats the point of saying anything on here?
Everyone says "well the issue is this and this and this"
We have 20 threads about his injury/playcalling/mind. Yet one post about his fundamentals and your acting like its overkill?
Its something that rarely gets mentioned unless i do it, so theres a place for it on this board. Would you rather me make another thread about playcalling, fire our coaches, new running game, better weapons? Or would you rather an in depth showcasing of an issue with our QBs fundamentals which could explain inconsistency?
Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
Everyone says "well the issue is this and this and this"
We have 20 threads about his injury/playcalling/mind. Yet one post about his fundamentals and your acting like its overkill?
Its something that rarely gets mentioned unless i do it, so theres a place for it on this board. Would you rather me make another thread about playcalling, fire our coaches, new running game, better weapons? Or would you rather an in depth showcasing of an issue with our QBs fundamentals which could explain inconsistency?
You’re right unless you keep mentioning it. You’ve made your point every time you mention it. Answer my question, what’s the point and what are you looking for us to say? Yes you watch type and told us again about the quarterback’s fundamentals.
Here’s another question, you say it’s been happening for three years but we were 13 seconds from a SB last year, wasn’t a problem then was it?
Here’s another thing, Mahomes, might have the worst fundamentals in the league, jump passes, throwing off the wrong foot all the time, side arm, underarm and he’s probably going to probably win the MVP this year. A lot of today’s QB’s are unorthodox. It’s more about lack of talent, scheme and coaching.
You’re right unless you keep mentioning it. You’ve made your point every time you mention it. Answer my question, what’s the point and what are you looking for us to say? Yes you watch type and told us again about the quarterback’s fundamentals.
Here’s another question, you say it’s been happening for three years but we were 13 seconds from a SB last year, wasn’t a problem then was it?
Here’s another thing, Mahomes, might have the worst fundamentals in the league, jump passes, throwing off the wrong foot all the time, side arm, underarm and he’s probably going to probably win the MVP this year. A lot of today’s QB’s are unorthodox. It’s more about lack of talent, scheme and coaching.
Honestly i expect people to give their points of view on what they see from the videos and if theyve noticed this too. Yes we were 13 seconds away from the championship game. Doesnt chance the massive inconsistency he has throughout the game
I even said, last year in the playoffs his fundamentals were some of the worst ive seen from him. But he still took the game over with pure talent. The problem is when he is like that, and its continuously changing through the course of the season, thats an issue. His accuracy is plainly at his best with his base fundamentals, and he plays better when hes continuously using them
We all agree hes up and down during the course of the season. Im pretty sure this is why. Yes he has amazing games when its off, but it definitely effects his accuracy during a lot of games. Most of the times when hes on, hes using those fundamentals
This is the main thing. Yes mahomes has bad fundamentals. But he also has a base throwing motion that is pretty consistent when he has a clean pocket or is stationary. Allen does not. Allen could be in a clean pocket in one game and throw with his taught fundamentals, then another game his feet/arm/hips are everywhere which is usually the games where his accuracy is everywhere
Allens biggest issue is his consistency week in and week out. Every year his fundamentals are great at the beginning and completely fall off in the middle/end of the season.
Yes he can have great games when his fundamentals are off. We saw that in 2020 before he adjusted. But his bad missed to wide open receivers usually are when he gets out of his specific throwing motion
Im trying to answer the question as to why hes so up and down during the season. Yes he plays great sometimed despite it, but even allen said that last year he got into a certain zone in the postseason where hes never gotten before. Most games hes not going to be in that zone so youd want to have a consistent base to fall back on.
Im only further explaining because most of this thread is blaming his injury, and im trying to explain this is an issue hes had for his whole career. Its something interesting to keep an eye on because its a drastic difference every year
Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
Honestly i expect people to give their points of view on what they see from the videos and if theyve noticed this too. Yes we were 13 seconds away from the championship game. Doesnt chance the massive inconsistency he has throughout the game
I even said, last year in the playoffs his fundamentals were some of the worst ive seen from him. But he still took the game over with pure talent. The problem is when he is like that, and its continuously changing through the course of the season, thats an issue. His accuracy is plainly at his best with his base fundamentals, and he plays better when hes continuously using them
We all agree hes up and down during the course of the season. Im pretty sure this is why. Yes he has amazing games when its off, but it definitely effects his accuracy during a lot of games. Most of the times when hes on, hes using those fundamentals
This is the main thing. Yes mahomes has bad fundamentals. But he also has a base throwing motion that is pretty consistent when he has a clean pocket or is stationary. Allen does not. Allen could be in a clean pocket in one game and throw with his taught fundamentals, then another game his feet/arm/hips are everywhere which is usually the games where his accuracy is everywhere
Allens biggest issue is his consistency week in and week out. Every year his fundamentals are great at the beginning and completely fall off in the middle/end of the season.
Yes he can have great games when his fundamentals are off. We saw that in 2020 before he adjusted. But his bad missed to wide open receivers usually are when he gets out of his specific throwing motion
Im trying to answer the question as to why hes so up and down during the season. Yes he plays great sometimed despite it, but even allen said that last year he got into a certain zone in the postseason where hes never gotten before. Most games hes not going to be in that zone so youd want to have a consistent base to fall back on.
Im only further explaining because most of this thread is blaming his injury, and im trying to explain this is an issue hes had for his whole career. Its something interesting to keep an eye on because its a drastic difference every year
Again you’ve made your point, we all see it and hopefully they (he and the coaches) do something to fix it, but like Mahomes, they are what they are and yet you said this earlier this month even with all their flaws.
“ Mahomes- 46 total tds 5,600 total yds, 12 ints
Allen- 42 total tds, 5000 total yds, 14 ints
Allen also didnt play a whole game
Definitely mahomes award, but allens number 2 no question”
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