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    Bill Parcells on The Bills

    “I love their team,” Parcells wrote on The 33rd Team. “I think they need a lot of work on defense. However they, conceptually, need a different style of running game and maybe even different personnel in their running game if they’re going to improve. They need to improve their offensive line as well. I think Tampa Bay and Buffalo were similar teams. Each was a one-man show. Buffalo has a great receiver in Stefon Diggs. Tampa has a great receiver in Mike Evans. But it was too much on Brady, and it was too much on Josh Allen. You just can’t play solitaire in the NFL and expect to win.”

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    If he thought Mike Evans was a good WR this year, he didn’t watch any football. Godwin was far better.

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    Josh Allen and the Scrubs.

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    I'd probably hire the 81 year old Parcells as a consultant who could tell people what to do and forgive him.

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloBlitz83 View Post
    “I love their team,” Parcells wrote on The 33rd Team. “I think they need a lot of work on defense. However they, conceptually, need a different style of running game and maybe even different personnel in their running game if they’re going to improve. They need to improve their offensive line as well. I think Tampa Bay and Buffalo were similar teams. Each was a one-man show. Buffalo has a great receiver in Stefon Diggs. Tampa has a great receiver in Mike Evans. But it was too much on Brady, and it was too much on Josh Allen. You just can’t play solitaire in the NFL and expect to win.”
    Hey would you lookie there…a HOF, Super Bowl winning coach agrees pretty much word for word with what many of us “armchair no nothing QBs” have been pounding for a looooong time.

    I hope “the process” catches on soon.

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    We need to add more running plays. We ran essentially 2 formations to run the ball, and i believe every run play was a RPO
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    This has been going on for a few years now. We hear everyone saying the same thing. The Bills offense starts and ends with Josh Allen. I guess Daboll started by bringing the HOF Tom Brady playbook to Josh Allen. Note I said HOF Tom Brady, not the pre-HOF Tom Brady playbook. For those of us watched the entire career of Tom Brady, you know there is a difference.

    Even on the passing play, did you notice how many plays Burrows and Mahomes throw behind the scrimmage (easy ones) and let their players make yards? Most of Allen's passes are sitting in the pocket/move defnders with eye/down the field requiring a strong arm. I fully get it when those former coaches, QBs saying the Bills relying on Allen so much to be at the top of his game week in and week out. Like Cosell said in this video, expecting Allen to play at the last year's playoff level all the time is unrealistic.

    There should be big conversation at OBD this offseason. Do you want it continue to be Allen centric, "just make less turnover" as Tasker called (basically pushing Josh to play at a high level consistently), or we make concerted effort from play design to make it less Allen centric. It can ruff some feathers, chiefly Josh Allen himself. But it's time to think about this seriously.

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

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    This has been going on for a few years now. We hear everyone saying the same thing. The Bills offense starts and ends with Josh Allen. I guess Daboll started by bringing the HOF Tom Brady playbook to Josh Allen. Note I said HOF Tom Brady, not the pre-HOF Tom Brady playbook. For those of us watched the entire career of Tom Brady, you know there is a difference.

    Even on the passing play, did you notice how many plays Burrows and Mahomes throw behind the scrimmage (easy ones) and let their players make yards? Most of Allen's passes are sitting in the pocket/move defnders with eye/down the field requiring a strong arm. I fully get it when those former coaches, QBs saying the Bills relying on Allen so much to be at the top of his game week in and week out. Like Cosell said in this video, expecting Allen to play at the last year's playoff level all the time is unrealistic.

    There should be big conversation at OBD this offseason. Do you want it continue to be Allen centric, "just make less turnover" as Tasker called (basically pushing Josh to play at a high level consistently), or we make concerted effort from play design to make it less Allen centric. It can ruff some feathers, chiefly Josh Allen himself. But it's time to think about this seriously.

    One thing you see from Cinci, KC, Philly, and SF. They always scheme up 4-5 plays a game that either use route combos to get a receiver wide open, or they use routes to force the defense back while using a TE/RB to chip and release where they become wide open underneath

    You also see a nuanced screen game that theyve mastered. The bills offense runs with Allen needing to have perfect timing with his receivers, which relies on the receivers consistently winning routes every play which isn't feasible.

    When one of our receivers gets a lot of space, its usually them running a great route, the defense getting confused in their own scheme, or allen running around freeing someone up


    When you watch the other teams, they use picks, route combos, chip and release to get their receivers open. Its one reason why kelce is so successful. Andy reid opens up the middle of the field, Kelce acts as a blocker sometimes with play action, then he finds a zone and sits

    SF uses a lot of motions, different formations, extensive RB usage, and creates isolated routes to get their TE and receivers open

    Philly uses an advanced running game and creative RPOs with hurts to free their receivers

    Cinci uses Chases deep ball speed, Higgins size, and specific route combinations to force defenders deep which frees up underneath players


    The bills on the other hand seem to consistently have multiple receivers in the same space clustering their side of the field. They use 3 run plays so defenders have no respect for it. This allows the CBs to just have to win their matchup with over the top and underneath help, which shrinks the windows allen has to throw into


    We use no route combinations, no picks, no screens. We allow the defense to get extremely comfortable. This is why if allens not on fire, its hard to win. Think back to the rams game. What was it? Allen and diggs having perfect chemistry, toss plays that made the defense horizontal, which opened up the middle of the field, then allen being a monster on the run. We had a good strategy because it took donald out of the game, force linebackers to have to guess, which then opened up passing lanes. It still was very allen reliant, but it was a good strategy that we abandoned during the course of the season

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post


    This has been going on for a few years now. We hear everyone saying the same thing. The Bills offense starts and ends with Josh Allen. I guess Daboll started by bringing the HOF Tom Brady playbook to Josh Allen. Note I said HOF Tom Brady, not the pre-HOF Tom Brady playbook. For those of us watched the entire career of Tom Brady, you know there is a difference.

    Even on the passing play, did you notice how many plays Burrows and Mahomes throw behind the scrimmage (easy ones) and let their players make yards? Most of Allen's passes are sitting in the pocket/move defnders with eye/down the field requiring a strong arm. I fully get it when those former coaches, QBs saying the Bills relying on Allen so much to be at the top of his game week in and week out. Like Cosell said in this video, expecting Allen to play at the last year's playoff level all the time is unrealistic.

    There should be big conversation at OBD this offseason. Do you want it continue to be Allen centric, "just make less turnover" as Tasker called (basically pushing Josh to play at a high level consistently), or we make concerted effort from play design to make it less Allen centric. It can ruff some feathers, chiefly Josh Allen himself. But it's time to think about this seriously.
    I just don't believe that McD is the right mastermind for the job.

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    Get rid of the stupid run option game and have a traditional running game. For the love of God. I’ve been screaming this for years. It sucks and isn’t working
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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    I wanna see the field attacked with routes between the numbers. Enough with the side line routes all the time.

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    Re: Bill Parcells on The Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    Get rid of the stupid run option game and have a traditional running game. For the love of God. I’ve been screaming this for years. It sucks and isn’t working
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