kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

[YardRat]

Re-sign Poyer?
Rookie draft pick?
Free agent?
Trade?

[Mace]

Re-sign Poyer?
Rookie draft pick?
Free agent?
Trade?

It's a real problem.

I'd prefer to resign Poyer, don't know we can afford to.
-can't see them starting a rookie at a critical position in their "scheme".
-a genuinely capable FA will cost a lot, and I don't know who it is anyway
-not sure we have anyone to trade, and can't afford to send draft picks because we madly need to use them

Find a way to re-sign Poyer for a bit is my hope. Best bandaid.

[Typ0]

Guess I have seen some things that have given me the impression that Poyer and The Bills numbers are quite a bit different and he was going to see what FA would bring him. Letting him walk to overpay another FA doesn't even make sense! Mace is right it's too critical a position in their "scheme" that no one can seem to run well consistently already. McDermott doesn't like to play rookies either. Not a good situation.

[Woodman]

I'd prefer Poyer .... what does his wife want exactly?

Gotta draft a replacement anyways.

[ParanoidAndroid]

If Hyde is back at 100%, we can start a rookie but it would have to be high end, one would think.

I really think this is going to be a year where we take a step back in order to make a leap forward in 2024.

We're going to have to rely on draft picks and bargain FA in order to shave some cap because this season has revealed some gaping holes on both sides of the ball that we thought were filled.

Priority #1 has to be to keep JA upright.

The O-line was not good and needs up to 3 new starters to replace Saffold, Brown and possibly Morse.

We need legit #2 and slot receivers.

We need an all-purpose RB to make our run game less predictable and more explosive.

We need a new 3-tech DL because Oliver ain't the guy.

[Mace]

If Hyde is back at 100%, we can start a rookie but it would have to be high end, one would think.

I really think this is going to be a year where we take a step back in order to make a leap forward in 2024.

We're going to have to rely on draft picks and bargain FA in order to shave some cap because this season has revealed some gaping holes on both sides of the ball that we thought were filled.

Priority #1 has to be to keep JA upright.

The O-line was not good and needs up to 3 new starters to replace Saffold, Brown and possibly Morse.

We need legit #2 and slot receivers.

We need an all-purpose RB to make our run game less predictable and more explosive.

We need a new 3-tech DL because Oliver ain't the guy.

We "can" do things we don't do. They won't start a rookie there, take that off the table.

Priority number 1 was taking care of Allen this year, Beane said so, you can't figure they'll do better with less draft picks because they cringe at starting rookies, and you can't figure they have so much money for FA, and if they do they might hire another Saffold.

Poyer shoud be the least of their problems atm, that's a crucial position to what they at least think they're doing and it's their bad they let it come to this with so many other looming problems that should have been inherent to the process.

Just looks bad to me.

[ParanoidAndroid]

They put a lot of eggs into the 2022 basket and almost all of them broke before Easter.

Bad luck. Like, really bad.

They may have to do things they don't like to do in order to quickly stop the bleeding.

[Ed]

Poyer is gone. I think he's made it pretty clear he won't be back and is looking for top dollar.

I'm all in on moving Christian Benford to safety. I think he can lock down the starting role and provide great low cost value for the next few seasons.

I'd also draft a prospect in the mid to later rounds to replace Jaquan Johnson. And add a cheap vet like Marlowe for depth/experience.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Didn't Beane say Benford is goig to play safety next year and they had the thought of him being a safety at some point in the draft?

At this point, I don't see Benford has a lot of leverage to say no (believe me, any CB having starting potential will say no to switch to safety). He might be quite capable while a 'rookie" at safety but not a rookie in NFL next year.

With Bills cap situation moving forward, this is kind of the scenarios they have to live with. With a few positions like that pan out, you have a strong superbowl contending season (see the Chiefs this year). Otherwise, see the 2022 Bills.

[TacklingDummy]

Time to concentrate on protecting and giving Allen weapons.

I couldn’t careless who plays saftey.

[Woodman]

Weapons and a dominant offensive line.

[Night Train]

Every change to the roster is a so called problem.

I would like to see the actual off-season start and advance some before playing taps on this team. I get many are still hurting after the Cinci game and refuse to be anything but angry and bitter.

I can't even start to look at them seriously until camp. The changes will be many.

[sukie]

It’s the changes we are looking for. That is the point.

there are safeties in the draft. Most projected late day 2 early 3… draft 1

Poyer and edmunds and Hyde contract money can be better put to use.

[Jeff1220]

Poyer and Hyde were originally signed to the Bills as starters, but were not well-known or high priced. They were two foundational bargain free agents. Hopefully Poyer's replacement could be a similar diamond in the rough.

[Jeff1220]

I keep seeing this argument that McBean "won't start rookies" which is far from true. They won't start rookies when there is someone they trust more that can play that position. They've started Edmunds, Tre White, Milano, Elam, Benford, Spencer Brown, Greg Rousseau, and probably others. Many other rookies (Gabe Davis for example) saw significant time to contribute in their first seasons.

[Goobylal]

Benford will take Poyer's place, unless they can get Poyer to agree to a reasonable 1-year deal.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

The Bills are a team can't afford to pay premium price for more than 1 player at each position. Safety is Hyde. CB is White. LB is Milano. DE has Miller. Maybe a DT this offseason. I don't see them paying another Safety at the same level as Hyde.

[kgun12]

Hopefully they can find the next Poyer in FA at a decent price like Poyers was.

[Mace]

Listing of 2023 safety fa's.....won't pretend I can fish through it for gems with any degree of competence.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/safety/

[kgun12]

Listing of 2023 safety fa's.....won't pretend I can fish through it for gems with any degree of competence.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/safety/

Me neither, but our new Poyer is on that list.

Philly won’t let him go, he would be good Chauncey Gardner-Johnson!