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  • kgun12
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    • Jul 2002
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    #16
    Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

    If they are going to sign any more FA, I’d much rather it be OL. There are still some quality players available that at this point might come a little cheaper than a week ago.
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    • Saratoga Slim
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      • Jul 2005
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      #17
      Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

      Honestly, just draft a solid RB prospect.
      Wake up, brush your teeth, and get ready for a day of hating the Dolphins. Or the Pats? How to choose?

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      • Historian
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        • Dec 2002
        • 61855

        #18
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        Hard. pass.

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        • notacon
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          • Aug 2012
          • 33042

          #19
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          Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
          Well here is the thing -- or at least my theory.

          Allen goes off rogue far too often. A lot of the stuff we ***** about is Josh Allen doing whatever the **** he wants.

          They want to address the run issue by putting someone with a bigger presence back there with him as a runner. Elliot might fit that bill especially if he works a favorable contract that puts him on the squad. And I mean presence in Allen's mind the fact that Elliot's better days are behind him isn't necessarily a strike against him in that area.

          So I don't know about this one it comes down to numbers and where Elliot is mentally about how he's going to contribute here.
          Unfortunately, we have little idea of exactly how much Allen “goes rouge”. We are not privy to the play calling, and no matter how much those outside the team want to say that they “know” what is being called by watching the game, that is nothing more than a guess.

          But, with that said, it is fairly apparent that Josh (and probably the coaches) feel the need to put so much on his shoulders because the Bills do not have a consistent RB threat that can either get the short yardage needed (especially in the red zone) or have a breakaway threat.

          JOSH fulfills those roles, which is not a good place to be.

          Cook could provide the breakaway threat....so could Hines. But, as Beane said in his presser there is a need for a heavier back. Singletary is not that guy either.

          Could Elliot??? Maybe. He sure looks played out and washed up to any objective observer. Almost every time Tony Pollard got the ball the difference in energy and speed was unmistakable.

          Would Elliot agree to play on a Super Bowl contending team (the Bills, not Dallas since Dallas is not as close a SB contending team as the Bills, by quite a large margin, mainly because Josh Allen is so much better than Dak) on a cheap contract??? And, more importantly, would that be a wise use of limited cap space.

          I have strong doubts to both.

          Is there a FA RB out there, that is cheap enough to provide what the Bills need?? Well, the RB market is quite low....cheapest position in the NFL (save kickers and punters). The Bills have passed on every RB so far, and it sure looks like they are going to stay out of the RB FA market.

          This need is screaming to be filled in the draft. A young 20 something kid with no brutal NFL miles on him (no, college football is not even close to as punishing as the NFL)....on a rookie controlled contract, which provides the opportunity to get the best years from a RB (for 4 or 5 years) and then cut him loose and do it again.

          The only question is who, and what degree of draft capital is it going to take.

          I have made my opinion quite clear. If Bijan Robinson falls to #27 (or even #25 or so requiring a minor move up) the Bills would be fools to not strongly consider him.

          A blue chip, first tier prospect like Robinson, IF he falls would be a STEAL for the Bills, and give them an almost sure fire MASSIVE impact player that would propel the Bills offense into almost unstoppable territory....and make Josh much more effective.

          I doubt that is going to happen.

          There are other RB’s that could fulfill that role, albeit not even close to the talent of Robinson. Late 2nd round...3rd round or possibly even later could have that guy....the trick is to recognize it.

          Is the Bills talent organization capable to target that guy? Of course they are. We’ll see in the weeks ahead.

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          • Woodman
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            • Apr 2014
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            #20
            Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

            Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
            If they are going to sign any more FA, I’d much rather it be OL. There are still some quality players available that at this point might come a little cheaper than a week ago.
            100%

            Gotta make it the top priority.

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            • Typ0
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              • Jul 2002
              • 32593

              #21
              Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

              Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
              I’m going to defer to you on this, I’m going to admit I’m not smart enough to get into the heads of the Bills receivers. I will also say when Allen was healthy (before the Jets game) the receivers didn’t seem to have any problems with Josh. I will argue that Josh wasn’t healthy after the Jets game for the rest of the season. I’m not sure how his elbow could have healed without sitting out some games. Can you tell me how an injury heals without rest especially an injury to the elbow on his throwing arm?
              It gets a lot less reps over the course of the week. The body can heal and needs use and stretching along the way of rest. They try and manage all that the best they can and they have a lot of control over the limitations as they prepare.

              It didn't look like it got to where he was at the start of the season but it did get better ... or they were medicating him more when the bigger games came up.

              From what I saw they were trying to work through all of that together and played some pretty smart games they were able to win. The receivers did not look good in these games....perhaps they altered the routes in some way?

              I don't know either. It is all speculation and I might be reading evidence differently but the evidence is there.

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              • Woodman
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                • Apr 2014
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                #22
                Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

                Report- Ezekiel Elliott deciding between Jets, Bengals, and Eagles - ProFootballTalk

                According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Elliott is deciding between the Bengals, Jets, and Eagles and wants to choose a team by the end of next week.
                The Cowboys released Elliott earlier this month rather than paying him a $10.9 million base salary for 2023 with a cap number of $16.72 million.

                “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                • kgun12
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 11319

                  #23
                  Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

                  Originally posted by Woodman View Post
                  Report- Ezekiel Elliott deciding between Jets, Bengals, and Eagles - ProFootballTalk

                  According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Elliott is deciding between the Bengals, Jets, and Eagles and wants to choose a team by the end of next week.
                  The Cowboys released Elliott earlier this month rather than paying him a $10.9 million base salary for 2023 with a cap number of $16.72 million.
                  And yet, according to Spotrac the Bills and Jets have the same cap space left and they don’t even have a quarterback.

                  But the Jets keep adding players and we sit back and watch.
                  Last edited by kgun12; 03-23-2023, 05:39 PM.
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                  • Woodman
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                    • Apr 2014
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                    #24
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                    Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                    And yet, according to Spotrac the Bills and Jets have the same cap space left and they don’t even have a quarterback.

                    But the Jets keep adding players and we sit back and watch.
                    We all want Wagner!!!!

                    I wish we could find the way to accomplish that.

                    “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                    "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                    Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                    • kgun12
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11319

                      #25
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                      Originally posted by Woodman View Post
                      We all want Wagner!!!!

                      I wish we could find the way to accomplish that.
                      If Oliver is going to be an issue, trade him and use his money to sign Wagner. The problem is if he is just going to shut up and play, he’s going to play hard for the new contract.
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                      • Woodman
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                        • Apr 2014
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                        Zac Taylor on Ezekiel Elliott- "We like our team as where it's at right now" - ProFootballTalk


                        Read the article. Adam Schefter never says the Bengals, Jets, or Eagles are actually interested in Elliott. But it’s clearly implied that Zeke isn’t barking up an empty tree in any of the three cities.
                        To summarize, Elliott has narrowed his options to the Bengals, Jets, and Eagles. Taylor’s comments would seem to be a no. Per multiple league sources, the Jets and Eagles aren’t currently interested, either.
                        So if Elliott wants to play in 2023, he may have to expand his options — or reduce his expectations enough to get one of those teams interested.

                        “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                        "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                        Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                        • Woodman
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                          • Apr 2014
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                          #27
                          Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

                          Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                          If Oliver is going to be an issue, trade him and use his money to sign Wagner. The problem is if he is just going to shut up and play, he’s going to play hard for the new contract.
                          Some guys just don't know when to just stfu.

                          Nobody here needs to kiss his ass.

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                          • notacon
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                            • Aug 2012
                            • 33042

                            #28
                            Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

                            Originally posted by Woodman View Post
                            We all want Wagner!!!!

                            I wish we could find the way to accomplish that.
                            No, we “all” don’t. And I suspect the Bills don’t necessarily want him either.

                            If the Bills wanted him, they would have already signed him. In fact, if ANY team really wanted him, they would have already signed him.

                            If sometime before the season starts, Beane decides to add Wagner the team, I would be ok with that. But, I don’t think they will because it would be a waste of limited resources.

                            Yes, there is a big hole at MLB when the Bears signed one of the best LB’s in the NFL and made him the highest paid IOL in the history of the NFL, but that is no reason to panic and ignore the elephant in the Bills locker room....the GLARING need for as many dynamic offensive skill weapons they can get their hands on.

                            If that means to mortgage the future to some extent by kicking the cap issues down the road with restructuring more contracts, that should be done for a big time WR like Hopkins or OBJ, NOT an aging LB.

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                            • kscdogbillsfan1221
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                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5652

                              #29
                              Re: Ezekiel Elliott will be released

                              if we are looking at old dallas running backs, tony dorsett or emmitt smith would be about as effective as zeke at this point.
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                              • Woodman
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                                • Apr 2014
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                                Originally posted by notacon View Post
                                No, we “all” don’t. And I suspect the Bills don’t necessarily want him either.

                                If the Bills wanted him, they would have already signed him. In fact, if ANY team really wanted him, they would have already signed him.

                                If sometime before the season starts, Beane decides to add Wagner the team, I would be ok with that. But, I don’t think they will because it would be a waste of limited resources.

                                Yes, there is a big hole at MLB when the Bears signed one of the best LB’s in the NFL and made him the highest paid IOL in the history of the NFL, but that is no reason to panic and ignore the elephant in the Bills locker room....the GLARING need for as many dynamic offensive skill weapons they can get their hands on.

                                If that means to mortgage the future to some extent by kicking the cap issues down the road with restructuring more contracts, that should be done for a big time WR like Hopkins or OBJ, NOT an aging LB.
                                FWIW I believe he would be a key signing ..... I'd call it huge.

                                I agree it does seem odd that if our front office felt anywhere near the same ..... he would not still be available.
                                Last edited by Woodman; 03-24-2023, 12:38 PM.

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                                Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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