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    Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    https://sports.yahoo.com/richard-she...213950021.html


    Sherman says Mahomes and Allen not asking for fully guaranteed deals when they signed their contract extensions pushed the league backward after Kirk Cousins' record-setting fully guaranteed deal with the Minnesota Vikings in 2018.
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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Sherman is an idiot.

    Both Allen and Mahomes got more guaranteed money than what Cousins got. And, guaranteeing $84 mil is a lot different than guaranteeing $258 mil or $450 mil.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    so putting your team first is now a bad thing and being selfish isnt?
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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    When you expect to play through your contract, guarantees don't really mean as much to you as someone who might not make it to the end of the contract.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    We comparing fully guaranteed 3 years to 6 and 10? Dumbass.

    Not to mention UFA negotiations vs extending.
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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Richard Sherman has the IQ of a shoe

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Josh will get more guaranteed money when he opts out in 2026.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy View Post
    Josh will get more guaranteed money when he opts out in 2026.
    They will redo his deal before then

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Poor Lamar. Keep sitting out looking for that fully guaranteed contract, and cost yourself tens of millions more.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    The NFL and the NFLPA are a mess in regards to player “contracts”. I’d like to see all contracts fully guaranteed.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Sherman is supposed to be an intelligent person, sometimes he doesn't sound like it. I think there was a reference a few weeks ago to a 3yr, $130+mil fully guaranteed deal that the Ravens offered Jackson (which would be closer to Cousins, admittedly I didn't do the math to see if the salary inflation actually factor lined up) and Lamar laughed at it. Plus Watson got his deal after Mahomes and Allen, and they didn't screw him up.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Not every player is a greedy every last dollar I can get moron. A few actually care about winning.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Having one player take up 15%-25% of the team cap is fine to individual players with opinions.

    Yet it's a team sport and borderline talent making the minimum is a growing sector in the NFL due to the unbalanced cap. If your QB goes down, you're basically done.

    So owners seeing that as a bad business plan is wrong how exactly ? Let the player$ and agent$ cry.
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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Not every player is a greedy every last dollar I can get moron. A few actually care about winning.
    They should be. Maximize all the earnings you can get given how short the average career is.
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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    They should be. Maximize all the earnings you can get given how short the average career is.


    So the ones who would rather take less to have a legit chance to win are dumb?

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    They should be. Maximize all the earnings you can get given how short the average career is.
    That's not an entirely true narrative. "Maximizing earnings" within that narrow mindset ignores other potential lucrative revenue streams that might be available for 'winners'.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    So the ones who would rather take less to have a legit chance to win are dumb?
    Not going to call somebody dumb, especially when I don’t know their circumstances. But if it’s a decision between taking care of my family for generations to come or winning more games then that’s not a tough decision to make.

    We’re asking players to literally take years off their lives for our entertainment and then we want to act all pissy because they want more money and ruin our fun? Count me out on that entire set of fake outrage.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    That's not an entirely true narrative. "Maximizing earnings" within that narrow mindset ignores other potential lucrative revenue streams that might be available for 'winners'.
    When you can quantify that and show an actual cost benefit analysis then you have a point.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Quote Originally Posted by jamze132 View Post
    The NFL and the NFLPA are a mess in regards to player “contracts”. I’d like to see all contracts fully guaranteed.
    That would effectively ruin the NFL. It probably could not survive being forced to pay the years long contacts for players that are not good enough to stay on the team or contribute to the quality of the team. It would cause league wide mediocrity instead of merit based employment.

    At the least it would push down salaries for all players.

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    Re: Sherman blames Allen for Lamar situation

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Sherman is an idiot.

    Both Allen and Mahomes got more guaranteed money than what Cousins got. And, guaranteeing $84 mil is a lot different than guaranteeing $258 mil or $450 mil.
    What is forgotten is that any “fully guaranteed” contract, that dollar amount that is “fully guaranteed” has to be deposited, in cash, in an escrow account.

    Cousins did use the leverage to get a “fully guaranteed” contract. And that experience has made owners very hesitant to go down that perilous path.

    Kirk Cousins is a good QB, but he’s simply not on the level of the elite QB’s like Brady (he never had a multi-year several hundred million dollar “fully guaranteed” contract), Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow and on and on.

    The Vikings handcuffed themselves with their “fully guaranteed” contract for an above average but by no means “elite” QB. The Athletic, in their annual “QB Tier” ranking had him accurately a “Tier 3” QB ranked #15 before the 2022 season.

    The Browns (out of desperation and stupidity) made a HUGE mistake in their contract with Watson. It will probably come back to bite them in the ass. (It probably has already).

    No NFL team should be stupid enough to give in to Lamar Jackson’s unrealistic demands. If he had a professional agent, he/she would have set him straight some time ago.

    A NFL player acting as his own agent has a fool as a client. Jackson is a fool.

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