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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    ---Allen plateaued last season, at best. We may have seen his ceiling already. Some guys just don't have 'it', and he may turn out to be one of them. Skipped working out with Palmer this off-season if the reports are true. Not encouraging.
    ---Cook is a gadget...Harris gets dinged...Murray is old.
    ---Last year at training camp we thought we had one of the best receiver rooms in the league. And Diggs wasn't pissing and moaning.

    ---Hyde, Poyer and White are another year older and another year more fragile.
    ---Dline was stacked last season at this time but severely under-achieved without Miller, who isn't going to be available at first and is another year older and more fragile.
    ---LBers are status quo, at best.

    "Humble and hungry" is just rhetoric, I don't see it in action. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they can hold on to the division this season let alone improve on last year.
    Count on one of our Negative Nancy curmudgeons to present the "reverse-homer" perspective.

    “Homers” are defined by fans who judgment is clouded and biased by their love of their team and attribute more quality for their team than reality presents. They ignore glaring deficiencies and overestimate the positives.

    “Reverse-Homers” are defined by “fans” whose judgement is clouded by their pessimism and underlying biased skepticism (and I suspect underlying dislike of their team) and attribute less quality for their team than reality presents. They ignore the positives and overestimate the negatives.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Where I got it from (the power rankings) is the talking heads. Just scour YouTube. It’s all there. Very few have Buffalo better than top 5. And that 5 is for all teams.

    some have them 5th in AFC.

    the point wasn’t exact rankings… it was Nobody has them in the dance. No one talking about Allen. It’s kinda nice not being the focus.
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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Nobody has them in the dance. No one talking about Allen. It’s kinda nice not being the focus.
    And that's the way we like it.
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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    The team peaked and became timid...reflecting McDermott...who has no "all in" drive whatever. Adequate has become the standard...and they assume it will work out.

    This is not a championship team.
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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    The team peaked and became timid...reflecting McDermott...who has no "all in" drive whatever. Adequate has become the standard...and they assume it will work out.

    This is not a championship team.
    Take magnesium an wear loose fitting boxers… limit Sucralose intake and stop all corn syrup. This may be a side effect of heavy Statin use but there is hope that it’s reversible. Opivitis isn’t something to brush off as “not so bad”.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Where I got it from (the power rankings) is the talking heads. Just scour YouTube. It’s all there. Very few have Buffalo better than top 5. And that 5 is for all teams.

    some have them 5th in AFC.

    the point wasn’t exact rankings… it was Nobody has them in the dance. No one talking about Allen. It’s kinda nice not being the focus.
    Youtube is a terrible source for anything. I don’t waste my time there. Any idiot can present themselves as a “talking head”. Low value (at least to me).

    I read the credible national media sites like....


    CBS Sports - #3

    ESPN - #4

    NFL.com’s Dan Hanzus - #4

    The Athletic - #4

    Sporting News - #4

    NBC Sports - #4

    Fox Sports - #4

    USA Today - #4


    Even PFF, who constantly like to **** on the Bills- #5. (inexplicably down from #4 pre-draft?!?!?)


    You need to get your head out of the gutter of Youtube and READ better sources.


    Like I said...."Yeah....I have no idea where sukie got "the Bills are anywhere from 4th to 10th in league preseason power rankings” I have not seen the Bills any lower than 4th or 5th.” (actually, almost ALL of them that are credible have the Bills at #4....which is extremely fair)

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Talking heads. The shows on those networks like Cowherd , Joy Taylor, Eisen etc. the ones that “talk”. God dammit!

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Talking heads. The shows on those networks like Cowherd , Joy Taylor, Eisen etc. the ones that “talk”. God dammit!
    Cowherd is an ass hat. He regularly ****s on the Bills. I never heard of Joy Taylor. And I have never seen any power ranking form Eisen.

    I read, and value pawer rankings form those that do it as a normal part of their job, or from credible nationally knows sites that offer up the same repeatedly as a regular journalistic feature....like those that I presented.

    Funny (not really, I already knew), that none of the major sports media sites I presented have the Bills lower than #5, and that was only one (another site that regularly ****s on the Bills PFF).

    All the rest had them at #4 and one at #3.

    Sorry, but your premise that I objected to...."the Bills are anywhere from 4th to 10th in league preseason power rankings.”....to has been found to be less than accurate.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    What you pay for and read is not what I’m talking about.

    Cowherd has them 5. Joy Taylor, his former cohost, has a show. Emmanuel Acho had the Bills 7 th in the AFC some rando Vegas betting show had them at 5 in NFL.

    this is a welcome precipitous plummet from last year.

    Josh is either 2 or 3 in QB rank so something is giving everyone pause.

    Pause away. I hated the preseason anointing.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    The Crown fits best after the season.

    Hate the pre-crown ceremony.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    The Crown fits best after the season.

    Hate the pre-crown ceremony.
    We know you were all over that coronation… who you trying to kid?

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Perhaps from the perspective of sports talking heads around the country there is no pressure on the Bills, but I think Bills mafia is hungry for the next step and will be putting psychological pressure on Terry Pegula to start making more significant changes (head coach and GM) if Buffalo doesn't go further in the playoffs this season.
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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ View Post
    Perhaps from the perspective of sports talking heads around the country there is no pressure on the Bills, but I think Bills mafia is hungry for the next step and will be putting psychological pressure on Terry Pegula to start making more significant changes (head coach and GM) if Buffalo doesn't go further in the playoffs this season.
    Honestly, when you're right on the doorstep but can't knock down the door to get in, changing things up HC and GM is probably the right way to go.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Honestly, when you're right on the doorstep but can't knock down the door to get in, changing things up HC and GM is probably the right way to go.
    Coordinators is a start

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Coordinators is a start
    The right start, in my opinion, is the GM.

    After all he is the guy who is bringing in the talent so either the talent he's bringing in isn't good enough or your coaching staff cannot reach those guys who are brought in.

    Which means you need someone different, with a different scouting department and pro personnel director to bring in talent.

    And we can all be honest, Beane and his staff are absolutely horrible at evaluating collegian talent. If he didn't draft Allen he would have been out the door because pretty much everything else he's done during the draft has been abysmal during his time here.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Still really hard to dump a GM that loses due to 10 seconds.

    last years laundry list of hurdles and obstacles was daunting. Not a GMs fault

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    I like this. No one has the Bills even making the Super Bowl. I guess playoff futility has created a “show me” attitude with all the talking heads.

    the Bills are anywhere from 4th to 10th in league preseason power rankings. (The 10 is a guess with Acho having Buffalo as 7th in AFC behind Fins and Jets.

    no mention at all about Josh and MVP in a sentence. We are basically good. That’s it.


    I love this. Can’t wait.

    - Josh is healthy. That elbow was more problematic.
    - James Cook will get the nod but as of now the RB room is much more talented than start of last year.
    - Sherrod , Harty, Rookie Shorter along with Shakir Davis and Diggs is a better WR group
    - Kincaid is a weapon and hopefully an opposing teams problem
    - the inside of the OLine got upgraded. The Irishman was a steal in The 2nd.

    - DLine has serious competition. Prove it play from a few should be fun
    - full strength Hyde Poyer Tre. Elam came in second half
    - look for rotational LB play. Howard from the Rams is terrific in coverage.
    - love the LB draft pick… Williams. One word “Instincts”.
    - Dorsey is now less green
    - I like McD calling the D

    sure no massive FA signings but the ones made seem like smart moves.

    oh Von is coming back. Some here think old… dude had 8.5 sacks . Who else had that many in a shortened season?
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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    What you pay for and read is not what I’m talking about.

    Cowherd has them 5. Joy Taylor, his former cohost, has a show. Emmanuel Acho had the Bills 7 th in the AFC some rando Vegas betting show had them at 5 in NFL.

    this is a welcome precipitous plummet from last year.

    Josh is either 2 or 3 in QB rank so something is giving everyone pause.

    Pause away. I hated the preseason anointing.
    LOL. Who cares? Who is Colin Cowherd? Answer: no one. No one knows how to take the Bills because of the changes that have occurred. They still have Allen so the sky is the limit. But if a Poyer or a Miller gets hurt again, poof.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    I’m not complaining about it . I was pointing out that no one his Buffalo a real shot . They have teams with bigger stories.

    it’s refreshing without the pressure of expectations.

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    Re: Bills no pressure like last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    The team peaked and became timid...reflecting McDermott...who has no "all in" drive whatever. Adequate has become the standard...and they assume it will work out.

    This is not a championship team.
    Defense was too timid, but I think the offense was too aggressive. Going for the homerun ball on consecutive downs when we were 2nd and short, and then again on 3rd and short. Plays that were too long to develop, etc...

    Coaching and playcalling was as much of a factor in our crappy second half last season (basically starting in that second half vs. the Packers) as much as anything else.

    Dorsey obviously needs to improve, taking the easy/high probability yards when there. And defense... just hoping McD can bring some of that magic he had when he was last DC. Frazier's crappy bend and dont break defense looks great against the non-playoff teams, but it's just free yards for teams with any above average QB.

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