Frazier gone but not forgotten???

[YardRat]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

All the time. As soon as there is any credible evidence of that, I will reassess my opinion.

As of now, ALL the evidence supports the opposite....and the evidence is what I base my opinion on.

The more important question is...did you ever stop to actually listen and respect all the evidence and think that Frazier did NOT get fired and his statements (and of Beane) of what he did and why are heartfelt and accurate?

It doesn't appear that you are actually looking at 'evidence', you are relying on public rhetoric (testimonial evidence, at best, and that's stretching it) to support the premise.

[Goobylal]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

You mean like not letting the CBs play ten yards off the line of scrimmage? LOL.

We'll find out.

Except there is also no evidence that he was "demoted and decided to leave”. That too is an attempt to denigrate Frazier when he does not deserve it.

The defense was not at the root of any loss last year. Every loss was mostly on the offense. The “something else” is the unjustified denigration of the defense and Frazier. Losing him is bad for the team.

The chances of the defense being better in 2023 over 2022 is almost a no brainer and will not reflect if the phantom idea that Frazier was “demoted” was “right or wrong". Unless the injury bug is close to what it was last.

If Von Miller is healthy for most of the season and especially late in the season and playoffs....if Micah Hyde plays all year and is healthy for most of the season and especially late in the season and playoffs....and if Tre’ White is 100% recovered....and if Poyer is healthy (healthier than last year where he was struggling with injuries all season) for most of the season and especially late in the season and playoffs....if Elam starts to lay up to the expectation of a first round pick....if the first safety backup, Hamlin, plays and does not die on the field....if Poona Ford and especially Leo Floyd contribute as expected....it would be a massive surprise if the defense took a step backwards.

What we DO know is that the loss of Brain Daboll DID have a negative effect on the offense, and the offense underperforming (despite very, very few injuries) contributed much more to every single lass last season, NOT the defense.

Yeah...the “other thing” is just how obtuse some of the opinions are concentring on denigrating Frazier instead of observing where the real problems and weak spots on the team were.

Frazier was not one of the weak spots. His loss is not good for the Bills.

Okay then if Frazier didn't leave after a demotion, he quit on the team. Which is worse. You can't have it both ways.

[notacon]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

We'll find out.



Okay then if Frazier didn't leave after a demotion, he quit on the team. Which is worse. You can't have it both ways.

Seriously?!?!? Neither. What a dumb question and even worse false ‘either or’ lame scenario.

[Goobylal]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

Seriously?!?!? Neither. What a dumb question and even worse false ‘either or’ lame scenario.

Sorry but he was either demoted and left or he quit on the team. Decide which version you want to believe.

[sukie]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

He was taken away from the Bills by the Lord.

[notacon]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

Sorry but he was either demoted and left or he quit on the team. Decide which version you want to believe.

Sorry, but this is so lame.

In fact, this dishonest method has a name...”False Dilemma”

[Goobylal]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

Sorry, but this is so lame.

In fact, this dishonest method has a name...”False Dilemma”

You said he wasn't demoted/fired. So that means he quit. What other explanation is there?

[notacon]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

You said he wasn't demoted/fired. So that means he quit. What other explanation is there?

Taking a leave.....taking a break.

In any event, your term “quitting on the team” has negative emotional connotations that are meant to denigrate.

[sukie]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

Taking a leave /break means coming back. Frazier himself said “had a good career” meaning if not a HC… he is done. Either coaching or in Buffalo.

if coming back “he I’m gonna continue my career .”

[Historian]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

Maybe he has Vermeilitis....

[jamze132]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

Taking a leave.....taking a break.

In any event, your term “quitting on the team” has negative emotional connotations that are meant to denigrate.

You really suck at “reading between the lines” don’t you…

It’s only two options and “taking a break” is quitting. So he was either fired or he quit…it’s that simple. He had a job, and now he doesn’t. Not sure how else to put it.

[swiper]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

The resident big mouth talks himself into a corner, yet again.

[notacon]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

You really suck at “reading between the lines” don’t you…

It’s only two options and “taking a break” is quitting. So he was either fired or he quit…it’s that simple. He had a job, and now he doesn’t. Not sure how else to put it.

Of course you don’t understand, because you don’t want to.

It’s all about denigrating Frazier. When he does not deserve to be denigrated.

He did a fantastic job as the Bills DC for years. His loss is huge and does nothing to help the TEAM.

[Goobylal]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

Of course you don’t understand, because you don’t want to.

It’s all about denigrating Frazier. When he does not deserve to be denigrated.

He did a fantastic job as the Bills DC for years. His loss is huge and does nothing to help the TEAM.

We'll find out this season. It's why I find people saying we need to move on from McD right now funny, but admittedly I might not be laughing at the end of the season.

[jamze132]

Re: Frazier gone but not forgotten???

Of course you don’t understand, because you don’t want to.

It’s all about denigrating Frazier. When he does not deserve to be denigrated.

He did a fantastic job as the Bills DC for years. His loss is huge and does nothing to help the TEAM.

I’m not denigrating him. He did an OK job. Don’t run from your argument…he quit or was fired. It’s really that simple and you’re doubling down on a stupid premise like you always do.