Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

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  • Goobylal
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    • Jan 2004
    • 19367

    #16
    Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

    Originally posted by YardRat View Post
    Fletcher was also 245 and ran a 4.38 forty. He has 25 lbs on Williams, and a good portion of the fan base didn't want him sticking around because too many of his tackles were 4-5-6 yards downfield.
    He's the same size and guys like Leonard, Warner, Roquan Smith, Kendricks, Wagner (height-wise) and White. And he's faster than all of them.

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    • Oaf
      Do you read what you write?
      • Jun 2007
      • 6151

      #17
      Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

      Originally posted by Chet View Post
      I like this news. Hopefully this means he has stood out more than others have sucked.

      Also liked the energy he (McD) had on the McAfee show about being DC again. Looking forward to some defensive fire now that the bot is gone
      This is a laughable take. As if McD didn't have direct input on defense before.

      Also, how would any professional stand out / suck in week one of volunteer OTAs?

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      • Woodman
        Legendary Zoner
        • Apr 2014
        • 65898

        #18
        Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

        All the fans are former MLB will soon forget him.

        “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

        "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


        Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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        • swiper
          Registered User
          • Sep 2010
          • 33105

          #19
          Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
          Fletcher was also 245 and ran a 4.38 forty. He has 25 lbs on Williams, and a good portion of the fan base didn't want him sticking around because too many of his tackles were 4-5-6 yards downfield.
          Apples and oranges. You are comparing Fletcher's weight at the height of his career vs a kid who hasn't played yet. The Bills will have him put on some weight. But I don't think they want their MLB at 245 in this day and age of the pass, pass, pass. If they can get him to 235-238, they'd be happy. They'll do that.
          Last edited by swiper; 05-25-2023, 08:13 PM.

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          • Cali512
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            • Jan 2012
            • 6393

            #20
            Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

            Ive said this a few times but most great LBs hover around the 6-1/6-2 230-240 range. Look at Werner who is 230 and 6-3

            But about the post that mentioned Edmunds height being an issue, i agree with this 100%. As a LB, leverage is key. Its really hard to gain lower ground when your 6-5 because you have to get extremely low to take on most RBs who are nearly a foot shorter than him (most are around 5-9 to 6'0)

            Say your 6-5, you get a clean shot at a 5'10 RB whos built like a truck. That RB always has the lower leverage on you and if your just disengaging from a lineman, your midsection is completely exposed. Which is probably why most of Edmunds missed tackles were him tackling high. This is why the ideal size is in the lower 6 ft range, it allows LBs to have the ability to get lower vs RBs to make the tackle.


            Most LBs Edmunds size end up as DEs or edge rushers due to this and its the same reason you dont see a lot of 6-3+ RBs
            Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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            • jamze132
              Don’t hate…
              • Jun 2003
              • 29295

              #21
              Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

              It’s OTAs. If he starting at MLB in training camp, I’ll take notice.

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              • Woodman
                Legendary Zoner
                • Apr 2014
                • 65898

                #22
                Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                Oh will you now.

                “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                • Albany,n.y.
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5599

                  #23
                  Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                  Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                  Interesting, usually McDermott likes to ease rookies in. Maybe he's changed his ways
                  I think that's a myth, which is perpetuated due to lower round picks being kept & developed (after the 3rd round, most picks are developmental players and the Bills have kept a lot of later rounders, especially when the team was being built) veteran depth at key positions which keeps rookies on the bench, and some mediocre draft picks like Epenesa & Basham. When there is a need for a new starter & a rookie shows something, McDermott puts him in.

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                  • DraftBoy
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 107452

                    #24
                    Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                    Not a huge surprise considering we did nothing else at LB and none of the other options are worth considering as starters.

                    Lots of pressure for a rookie, but we’ll see.
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                    • Night Train
                      Retired - On Several Levels
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 33117

                      #25
                      Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                      Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
                      It’s OTAs. If he starting at MLB in training camp, I’ll take notice.
                      Plus the media is getting just a few minutes to view the workouts. They are rotating others in to test, according to Chris Brown on the local Bills show. These are padless walk thru's for the purpose of playbook instruction. I'm rooting for all of them. The next test will be mini-camp in a couple weeks.
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                      • YardRat
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                        • Dec 2004
                        • 86154

                        #26
                        Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                        Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
                        He's the same size and guys like Leonard, Warner, Roquan Smith, Kendricks, Wagner (height-wise) and White. And he's faster than all of them.
                        Every single one of those guys on the list is taller, heavier, or in half of the cases both. An inch or two and five-ten pounds is not insignificant.
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                        • swiper
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                          • Sep 2010
                          • 33105

                          #27
                          Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                          Every single one of those guys on the list is taller, heavier, or in half of the cases both. An inch or two and five-ten pounds is not insignificant.
                          C'mon. You know better. Many of these LBers come in on the light side. It's what the trainers are for. He may grow another inch and put on 10 to 15 lbs without too much trouble. Not worried about his measurables.

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                          • GreedoII
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                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1301

                            #28
                            Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                            is 17 starting week 1? All I care about

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                            • Goobylal
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 19367

                              #29
                              Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                              Originally posted by Oaf View Post
                              This is a laughable take. As if McD didn't have direct input on defense before.

                              Also, how would any professional stand out / suck in week one of volunteer OTAs?
                              In this case it's less about Williams standing-out/sucking than hearing that he will be playing MLB and not OLB like where Beane was all but assuring us he'd start off. And that's a good thing because MLB is a huge void and he's the most talented of the prospects.

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                              • Goobylal
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 19367

                                #30
                                Re: Per Nyup, Dorian Williams is starting at MLB

                                Originally posted by swiper View Post
                                C'mon. You know better. Many of these LBers come in on the light side. It's what the trainers are for. He may grow another inch and put on 10 to 15 lbs without too much trouble. Not worried about his measurables.
                                This. Williams will easily be able to add 5-8 lbs like the other guys did.

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