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    Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants



    Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Taking a year off, eh?

    The official story out of Buffalo in late February was that defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier was taking a year off from coaching. The unofficial story always seemed to be that he got a belated nudge from the Bills, as the unofficial scapegoat for the team’s failure to live up to sky-high expectations in 2022.

    Frazier has made it clear that he intends to return in 2023. If he does, it likely will be with a team other than the Bills.

    Josina Anderson of CBS Sports recently reported that Frazier had spent two days visiting with the Packers, was then spending two days visiting with the Commanders, and would then spend two days visiting with the Giants.

    Frazier played with Commanders head coach Ron Rivera in Chicago, and he coached with Giants head coach Brian Daboll in Buffalo.

    Frazier previously coached the Vikings. He has made it clear that he still hopes to have another chance to be a head coach.

    In Frazier’s absence, Bills coach Sean McDermott will handle the defensive play calling. It’s possibly an all-in move from McDermott that could have significant repercussions for someone other than Frazier this time around, if the Bills fail to get deep into January again.
    This clarifies the situation a little.
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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    im going to repost this


    So he didnt take a "year off", like the initial narrative was


    This mixed with all the reports coming out of buffalo saying "the defense will be geared towards a more attacking and aggressive defense", with mcdermott, when we know fraziers history of being a more conservative defense, shows that this was definitely closer to a "firing", than Frazier wanting a break

    So notty, im pretty sure this proves our point that Frazier was fired, so lets embrace McDermotts D and acknowledge Fraziers defense wasnt providing the scheme that McDermott was trying to implement
    Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Most of us knew this the day his "leave of absence" was announced. The Bills didn't want him.

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Maybe Frazier didn't want to be here anymore and was sick of being blamed for the defensive woes when it was never his defense to begin with?

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Maybe Frazier didn't want to be here anymore and was sick of being blamed for the defensive woes when it was never his defense to begin with?
    Could be. But Frazier said I believe he was going to take the year and visit some people / camps. I would still be surprised if he signed onto a team in a full-time capacity in 2023. But I've been wrong before.

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    13 seconds ******* can go wherever the **** he wants. That should have been our year. There is no easy SB-that’s kinda the point- but we will never have an easier chance than we did that time. Yes, he created a D that helped us get to a good place, but he failed when it meant the most. The window is over. We won’t get another shot at a title with Allen. Frazier blew our shot.

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Maybe Frazier didn't want to be here anymore and was sick of being blamed for the defensive woes when it was never his defense to begin with?
    Playing devil's advocate is not your forte. You know as well as anyone that this is not the case. If the Bills wanted him and he didn't want to be here, he had a contract that would have held him here. He was clearly fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    13 seconds ******* can go wherever the **** he wants. That should have been our year. There is no easy SB-that’s kinda the point- but we will never have an easier chance than we did that time. Yes, he created a D that helped us get to a good place, but he failed when it meant the most. The window is over. We won’t get another shot at a title with Allen. Frazier blew our shot.
    Having a good D is not that difficult when you have good pieces and are often playing with the lead. I always felt the D rankings were inflated because of that.

    you really find out about your D when you face a good team and you NEED the stop. The day they blew it with 13s I knew the D was very overrated and Frazier was not a great coach and had just been put in a good situation. We saw his D fail time and again when the pressure was on.

    deserved to be fired. A year too late, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Maybe Frazier didn't want to be here anymore and was sick of being blamed for the defensive woes when it was never his defense to begin with?
    He was making the D calls. That IS his D.

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Why can't they just be honest about this stuff?

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    More Leslie Frazier threads ? WTF ?
    Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Maybe Frazier didn't want to be here anymore and was sick of being blamed for the defensive woes when it was never his defense to begin with?
    Who cares. He's been over rated everywhere he's been. His defenses collapsed when it mattered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    Why can't they just be honest about this stuff?
    I don't get it either. Just say "We are mutually parting ways, due to a change in philosophy."

    It's not hard. Don't make up some plate of piss and tell us that it's prime rib

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Do we still retain his rights that a team would need to acquire to hire him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaf View Post
    Do we still retain his rights that a team would need to acquire to hire him?
    i don't think so. i think his contract was up
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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    More Leslie Frazier threads ? WTF ?
    Yes. Shut up. It is because this tells the story of the parting of ways with the Bills. It's not 4 pages of conjecture.

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by swiper View Post
    It's not 4 pages of conjecture.
    Give it time

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Leslie snacked on some “hot sticks” which are quite excellent. Many a Wisconsin will tell you about “hot sticks” and the anal assault there after.

    Rumor: He might have had some cheese.

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    I hope the Bills write him a winning recommendation

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    If he “stepped away” for a year does that mean if hired by another team in at least a DC role… would Bills get the 2 3rd rounders?

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    If he “stepped away” for a year does that mean if hired by another team in at least a DC role… would Bills get the 2 3rd rounders?
    I think thats only for HCs

    Which this is honestly the most racist rule the nfl has ever implemented

    "Hey since we dont think yall are smart enough to impress the owners, well give your team draft picks to push you harder for the job"

    The whole rule is a joke tbh

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    Re: Leslie Frazier visits with Packers, Commanders, Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    Why can't they just be honest about this stuff?


    It doesn't look good on his resume.

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