NHL prospect dies by skate to the throat….:

[JATMtheJATM]

I still haven't seen the video. I don't want to. What do you think of the guy being arrested?

We have a thread about it. But it's not in the right forum.

I've watched that play 20 times now.

The first time I watched it, I had no idea what I was looking at
The second time, I missed the injury, but figured out where to look.
The third, I saw it, but wasn't clear on what I saw
The fourth, I was in denial about what I saw.

The hit happens as the guy gets hip checked. His skate flies up and right into Johnson's neck. At first glance, it's easy to see how a leg would fly up like that. It was a high speed, glancing impact. But when he gets his leg up, he donkey kicks. He kicks outward. It looked really really.... Intentional.

Does this mean he meant to kill the guy? No.

On the other hand, at regular speed, everything happens so fast, it's hard for me to figure out how he had time to intentionally kick when the speed of everything happens so so fast.

[OpIv37]

We have a thread about it. But it's not in the right forum.

I've watched that play 20 times now.

The first time I watched it, I had no idea what I was looking at
The second time, I missed the injury, but figured out where to look.
The third, I saw it, but wasn't clear on what I saw
The fourth, I was in denial about what I saw.

The hit happens as the guy gets hip checked. His skate flies up and right into Johnson's neck. At first glance, it's easy to see how a leg would fly up like that. It was a high speed, glancing impact. But when he gets his leg up, he donkey kicks. He kicks outward. It looked really really.... Intentional.

Does this mean he meant to kill the guy? No.

On the other hand, at regular speed, everything happens so fast, it's hard for me to figure out how he had time to intentionally kick when the speed of everything happens so so fast.

Here’s the thing for me: the kick is a thrusting motion in the direction of Johnson. If he wasn’t trying to kick Johnson, what’s the point of making the move at all? It’s not going to help him regain balance. It’s nowhere near the puck so it’s not a game-related move.

There wasn’t intent to murder but there was intent to harm that resulted in death. That’s the legal definition of voluntary manslaughter.

[JATMtheJATM]

Here’s the thing for me: the kick is a thrusting motion in the direction of Johnson. If he wasn’t trying to kick Johnson, what’s the point of making the move at all? It’s not going to help him regain balance. It’s nowhere near the puck so it’s not a game-related move.

There wasn’t intent to murder but there was intent to harm that resulted in death. That’s the legal definition of voluntary manslaughter.

I agree.

But the one thing that gets me is everything for that to happen had to go right. So if he was TRYING to make a dirty play, how fast everything developed.... It's hard from me to wrap my head around. If you watch it in real time, he basically gets bumped, leg flies up, and the leg kicks outm in slow motion, it's easy to see it unfold. In real time? It's so fast.... It's almost unreal to consider he kicks out intentionally.

But I also have no reason for that kick out. That's not a move you'd make to keep your balance in that scenario.

So, again. I agree it looks intentional. I just can't wrap my head around how fast he would have had to make that decision considering all the unknown variables going into the bump and the subsequent kicking motion because it all happened so freaking fast

[ckg927]

I still haven't seen the video. I don't want to. What do you think of the guy being arrested?

WAY overdone. That does not mean Petgrave will be charged, however.

[jamze132]

So after an investigation the guy is arrested. Wonder if those two have a history.