So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

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  • Forward_Lateral
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 29897

    #16
    Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

    Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
    And Bills man coverage effectiveness is ranked near bottom.
    Yep. I think part of it falls on blitz effectively too but that’s another discussion

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    • Woodman
      Legendary Zoner
      • Apr 2014
      • 65988

      #17
      Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

      Defense still wins Championships .....

      “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

      "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


      Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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      • notacon
        Registered User
        • Aug 2012
        • 33128

        #18
        Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

        Originally posted by Woodman View Post
        Defense still wins Championships .....
        Nope.

        Elite QB's win championships.

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        • Forward_Lateral
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 29897

          #19
          Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

          Originally posted by notacon View Post
          Nope.

          Elite QB's win championships.
          And elite coaching.

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          • notacon
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            • Aug 2012
            • 33128

            #20
            Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

            Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
            And elite coaching.
            Elite QB's make coaches look elite.

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            • Forward_Lateral
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 29897

              #21
              Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

              Originally posted by notacon View Post
              Elite QB's make coaches look elite.
              For the most part, I'd agree, yes.

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              • ghz in pittsburgh
                Registered User
                • Aug 2004
                • 5861

                #22
                Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                The Bills D is of those that work well against majority of NFL teams, but against offense with elite QBs like Mahomes, Burrows, not so much. Just feel like this off-season, you have the feel it is the "turning of the page" transition under McDermott from coaching staff to the players they will acquire; they are aligning themselves towards more capable playoff defense. Generally you need better players under man.

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                • Forward_Lateral
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 29897

                  #23
                  Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                  100%.

                  The Tampa 2 or Shell or whatever you want to call it is a great Defense if you can pressure the QB. If you can't, it sucks. That being said, playing man coverage also sucks if you can't pressure the QB.

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                  • ghz in pittsburgh
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 5861

                    #24
                    Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                    I think if you play zone against Mahomes and Kelce, it's just a match up nightmare. Mahomes is a smart QB who can read defense well, have ability to extend plays. Kelce is great in finding soft zone, aka "being open."

                    Play man, you have more resource to spy or to pressure to force the issue. A big if is your man coverage is good enough --- all QBs like playing against man coverage because the read is simple, just need to find you best match up.

                    The most important part is more disguise and mixes.

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                    • Woodman
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                      • Apr 2014
                      • 65988

                      #25
                      Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                      Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
                      I’d love to have a couple of shut-down CBs. It’d open up so many more options for blitzes.
                      Give me McDuffie and Sneed and it's game over for everybody.

                      “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                      "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                      Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                      • Woodman
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 65988

                        #26
                        Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                        Let us hit on a couple corners this draft class .... at least one.

                        “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                        "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                        Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                        • notacon
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 33128

                          #27
                          Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                          The Bills defense was factually decimated by injury in 2023.

                          Losing three of your best star defenders for extended number of games negates the roster building of a defense.

                          Tre' White missed 13 games. Matt Milano missed 12 and DaQuan Jones missed 10.

                          That's 25% of your starters missing TWO THIRDS of the games.

                          The Bills were tied for the fourth-most games lost by starters on defense with 46. That does not count Von Miller's four missed games, because the injury occurred in 2022.

                          Meanwhile, according to the Buffalo News....


                          "It should come as no surprise that once again, there was a strong correlation between health and success. The two teams that made the Super Bowl were among the healthiest in the league.

                          Kansas City was tied for the second-fewest games lost at 27. San Francisco had the fifth-lowest total at 30.

                          The Chiefs have had an amazing run of good health in recent years. They lost the fewest games in the NFL to injury in 2022, the third fewest in 2021 and the 10th fewest in 2020. They were tied for 13th in both 2019 and 2018."


                          All the planning and roster building goes out the window when so many injuries take place, especially to your biggest stars!!

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                          • notacon
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 33128

                            #28
                            Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                            BTW....the "46 games lost" by starters was ONLY for defense. The offensive starters were much healthier, missing only six games. The O-line was one of only two NFL teams that had no games lost by O-line starters.

                            But, the official number of games lost by starters for the Bills is FIFTY-TWO.

                            That's just under TWICE as much as KC's 27.

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                            • Typ0
                              honey pie
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 32593

                              #29
                              Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                              Originally posted by notacon View Post

                              All the planning and roster building goes out the window when so many injuries take place, especially to your biggest stars!!

                              Either that....or your planning and roster building procedures are correlated with the injuries!

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                              • ghz in pittsburgh
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 5861

                                #30
                                Re: So the Bills D may go thru a bigger change than we all think?

                                Maybe the age comes into play on injuries. Chiefs has the 7th youngest team. The Bills 26th.

                                Haven't looked in details, I suspect the Bills D roster is older than Bills O roster? How many starting D players is under the age of 26 at the start of the season?

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