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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    We lost because we didn't continue that amazing ball control game plan for the final two minutes.
    We did have em by the balls didn't we.
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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    The Chiefs' defense has been historic during this postseason run. Kansas City allowed just 13.7 points-per-game!!
    they are the reason the Chiefs even made it to the big dance...but the QB always gets the glory.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by cas22 View Post
    they are the reason the Chiefs even made it to the big dance...but the QB always gets the glory.
    Exactly ....

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by jamze132 View Post
    No, they weren’t good enough in the post season. I mean we had a guy get off his couch and was told to cover Kelsey. Injuries cost us this year.
    they were not good enough in season... we have a defense that will stay in the games until you need that 1 stop,,,,

    the only way this regime wins a superbowl is for the offense to score on every possession ...

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    I hate that when the Bills enter the post-season, they're always missing key players. Always.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    We did have em by the balls didn't we.
    Well we were still down by 3, but we were in a great spot to slay the dragon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal View Post
    I hate that when the Bills enter the post-season, they're always missing key players. Always.
    We didn't fail after the 2 minute warning because of injuries

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Nope.

    Our QB wilted in the big moment. Missed an underneath throw that would have gone for a first down because he's doing the hero ball thing and trying to hit a TD pass. And then just throwing the ball away on 3rd down.

    Meanwhile you put Mahomes in that same situation and he's cool, calm and collected and takes whatever the defense gives him to put his team in position to win.

    There's the difference between the two QBs.
    It wasn't going to be a first down. This has been covered and discussed by many people who were both at the game, and who have access to the All-22. Diggs wasn't getting a for sure first down. Defenders were baring down on him, and he likely would've been a few yards short.

    Please stop posting ridiculousness. WE get it, you hate Allen. He stinks. He's the reason they can't win a superbowl.

    Give it a rest.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    It wasn't going to be a first down. This has been covered and discussed by many people who were both at the game, and who have access to the All-22. Diggs wasn't getting a for sure first down. Defenders were baring down on him, and he likely would've been a few yards short.

    Please stop posting ridiculousness. WE get it, you hate Allen. He stinks. He's the reason they can't win a superbowl.

    Give it a rest.
    It was second down in four down territory. Not getting a first down there wasn't the end of the game.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    I'm soured on the process more. We're going into the 8th year of the program and process, 7 with Josh Allen. You have seen KC, Baltimore, the Rams and 49'ers adapt and evolve to remain consistent. You have seen the Browns rise on defense, adapt to Flacco in an emergency. The Bengals have risen, evolving with Burrow, the Dolphins evolved for Tua to keep people off him and develop a quick strike with Hill and Waddle, Houston is rising with vigor under a rookie coach and QB.

    We made an o line in front of Allen for a season finally, since the last time we had an ok one with all FA's early. Oh no, receivers again. The offense is not fluid, dynamic and consistent, it sputters, revs, stops and starts with curious erratic personnel use. Maybe Brady has a solution, but's still 7 years of Josh Allen used up. Build an offense to maximize him, not count on him to rescue it.

    Defense. Injuries. In Bernard and Milano, McDermott is sticking to his scheme with lb's 10-12 lbs short of the muscle Davis and Kuechly had in Carolina. If you've ever added that much more muscle, you're going to know it makes a huge difference on contact, and they have smaller guys coming up in contact besides. Of course they're going to have injuries.

    Next man up is never challenging a starter. He's a placeholder. Williams at LB has some promise, is he challenging Milano ? 230 lbs...coming into his game, dunno. Defense is plug and play, with degrading performance on injuries. They keep patching the DL with vet FA, vet FA are guys other people drafted with wear on them.

    Vet FA is going to be the same, they'll fish the bargain bin before the draft and insert them as starters, then draft most rookies as placeholders behind them, man corner Elam drafted for zone ? Shakir and Cook could have saved them some FA money by getting snaps

    Where's the low cost draft pipeline pushing starters on the OL, dt and at safety ? For that matter, wr, and rb to enhance their franchise gem Allen ?

    Seriously, how many vet scrub FA's have they gone through on offense and defense trying to patch, ala throw someone elses' picks against the wall and see if they stick ?

    Looks to me like Beane gets what McDermott wants every year as best he can, the college scouting has been hit or miss, they have not built a happy Allen oriented offense, have remained stale on defense and accordingly remained injury prone, and remain handicapped by McDermott, timid and conservative, or inexplicably going for all the chips with poor judgement.

    There are no fierce competitors besides Allen and Diggs, you saw Kelce screaming at Reid, you've seen Kyle Williams, Fred Jackson, Lorenzo Alexander, Richie Incognito, Jim Kelly, Darryl Talley, Bruce Smith, Thurman, Reed, Cookie, Stratton, furious Saban, frothing Levy throwing his headset, even Conrad Dobler, Takeo Spikes raging on the field and channeling it, instead, of clap clap clap, we have tomorrow boys, no worries, great job, next year, we're fine.

    They ALL need to ramp it up, or we wasted a franchise QB without maximizing the window. And don't even try and say we maximized the window if you watch the Bills. We're closer to falling back into the pack than we are to taking it over imho, and it's the 8th year of the program. 8 years, 7 with Allen coming up, really ?

    My 2 cents.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    Well we were still down by 3, but we were in a great spot to slay the dragon.

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    We didn't fail after the 2 minute warning because of injuries
    You realize there were 58 other minutes, right?

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    It was second down in four down territory. Not getting a first down there wasn't the end of the game.
    No it wasn't. They could not communicate it being 4 down territory even though it was. Same ole crock of **** if you ask me.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    No it wasn't. They could not communicate it being 4 down territory even though it was. Same ole crock of **** if you ask me.
    I was responding to FL who made a statement that a throw to Diggs wouldn't have gotten a 1st down

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal View Post
    You realize there were 58 other minutes, right?
    Of course I do. I don't know what is your point because despite of all the excuses of injuries, dropped balls, blunders etc, we were still in a great spot at the end. Great spot. We then curled up in a ball when it came to crunch time. After the time out, too. Yeesh

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    I was responding to FL who made a statement that a throw to Diggs wouldn't have gotten a 1st down
    Still not 4 down territory when no one knows it. Diggs doesn't get the 1st McDermott still kicks the field goal anyway. You know it's true LOL.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    Still not 4 down territory when no one knows it. Diggs doesn't get the 1st McDermott still kicks the field goal anyway. You know it's true LOL.
    If Diggs doesn't get the 1st down it's then 3rd and short. I believe even McD has Josh run it twice to get the 1st.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    It was second down in four down territory. Not getting a first down there wasn't the end of the game.
    It would've been 3rd down.

    The Chiefs had timeouts, it's not like they wouldn't use one.

    It's a moot point because the throw to Shakir was a TD if he gets into it properly.

    Anyone saying the throw to Shakir was the wrong one is a complete and utter moron.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    It would've been 3rd down. Third down and fourth down to gain a yard or two if digs fell short of the first down.

    The Chiefs had timeouts, it's not like they wouldn't use one.

    It's a moot point because the throw to Shakir was a TD if he gets into it properly.

    Anyone saying the throw to Shakir was the wrong one is a complete and utter moron.
    It was second down and yes it would have been third down.

    What do the Chiefs timeouts have to do with any of this?

    A TD on the first play would have given the Chiefs the ball back with a minute 50 to go.

    Don't be a blockhead.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    For the majority of the season if we could get an uninspiring effort out of Josh to the tune of 34 of 46 for 333 yards and 2 TDs that would be an improvement over a majority of his games this season. Instead we get Josh putting up 26 of 39 for 186 yards and 1 TD against the Chiefs and that's somehow the standard for the best QB the Chiefs faced in the playoffs. Brock Purdy outperformed those numbers in the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson outperformed those numbers. Tua was on par with those numbers.

    ?This isn't saying Josh is or isn't better than those 3 guys overall, in fact he is better than all 3, but when it comes to the Chiefs he didn't outplay any of them.

    If the bar to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs is that miserable performance we saw a few weeks ago, we're never beating that team in the playoffs.





    what rushing TDs don't count?

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    The part that's hard to take is this wasn't close to the best Chiefs team. Yes they had a good D. And yes that D largely carried them. But it's a lot like NE back in the early years of their dynasty. Brady did not beat himself and come crunch time he made plays. Mahomes is the same way. It's not that he's unbeatable or that he's perfect. But you have to beat him. We were really really close this year.

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    Re: The irrational nonsense around here has gone on long enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    For the majority of the season if we could get an uninspiring effort out of Josh to the tune of 34 of 46 for 333 yards and 2 TDs that would be an improvement over a majority of his games this season. Instead we get Josh putting up 26 of 39 for 186 yards and 1 TD against the Chiefs and that's somehow the standard for the best QB the Chiefs faced in the playoffs. Brock Purdy outperformed those numbers in the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson outperformed those numbers. Tua was on par with those numbers.

    This isn't saying Josh is or isn't better than those 3 guys overall, in fact he is better than all 3, but when it comes to the Chiefs he didn't outplay any of them.

    If the bar to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs is that miserable performance we saw a few weeks ago, we're never beating that team in the playoffs.
    Lamar Jackson put up 10 points against the Chiefs. 10. Stats are for losers. Often the best play for a QB is a throwaway. Josh made EXCELLENT decisions all day against the Chiefs until the last 2:00. He could have run the 1947 Army ttriple option and threw for 10 yards and that would have been perfect if we won the game.

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