DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

[sahlensguy]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

IMO neither task is insurmountable.

I see McD evolving, now he’s still a cromag not quite human but he’s getting there.

Josh needs to channel the chill of guys like Montana/Brady/Brees and not do stupid AVOIDABLE ish throughout the courier of entire games. (People too often trumpet his end of game or complete game heroics while ignoring the egregious mistakes he made in those games that made heroics necessary in the first place).

If he can avoid the easily avoidable mistake the Bills will hoist.

For example he single-handedly lost us the jets and broncos games with completely idiotic decisions. We win those games and we probably win the AFC and avoid playing in the costly WC game where those key injuries occurred which then likely cost us the Division game and…

We'll see.

Did you know that Allen doesn't have a single 4th quarter comeback or game winning drive in the post season? Or that Josh has yet to win a single game in OT?

McD/Allen has a longer way to go before hoisting than it appears on paper, imo.

[Mad Max]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

We'll see.

Did you know that Allen doesn't have a single 4th quarter comeback or game winning drive in the post season? Or that Josh has yet to win a single game in OT?

McD/Allen has a longer way to go before hoisting than it appears on paper, imo.

Let’s what happens when they get him a WR and Brady gets a full off season of integration.

[sahlensguy]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

Let’s what happens when they get him a WR and Brady gets a full off season of integration.

Yep, that's all we can do.

[Typ0]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

What will happen at the WR position is intriguing. Like they could theoretically neglect the WR position, again, and still acquire multiple WRs. It would be a good thing having a guy on a rookie contract lining up on the outside if he can fill the shoes ... but that is a big ask. Shakir might really be able to do a lot. I still would not argue about seeing slot by committee with the guys we have. Shakir, Diggs, Kincaid, Cook ... send them all down through the slot in a rotation. Yeah baby. This WR we are going to add to the mix could be a huge piece or something we don't get the value out of we need.

[Goobylal]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

What will happen at the WR position is intriguing. Like they could theoretically neglect the WR position, again, and still acquire multiple WRs. It would be a good thing having a guy on a rookie contract lining up on the outside if he can fill the shoes ... but that is a big ask. Shakir might really be able to do a lot. I still would not argue about seeing slot by committee with the guys we have. Shakir, Diggs, Kincaid, Cook ... send them all down through the slot in a rotation. Yeah baby. This WR we are going to add to the mix could be a huge piece or something we don't get the value out of we need.

They haven't neglected the WR yet. Since 2000, when they traded for Diggs, they were never drafting a WR high to take targets away from Diggs and make him unhappy. Now that it appears age is catching up to him, that thinking will change.

[notacon]

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Here is another mind boggling fact that illustrates THE difference is Patrick Mahomes from Go Long's Mailbag Column....

This stat from fellow Substacker Neil Paine boggles the brain and helps put Mahomes’ current greatness into proper perspective.

Paine writes:

“Since 2001, there have been 125 drives in the NFL postseason where it was at least the fourth quarter, there was under a minute left to play, and the team on offense trailed by seven points or fewer at the start. These are your standard clutch moments for a football team, the do-or-die drives that win and lose critical games.

“Out of those 125 drives, only 40 percent of them saw the team on offense pull off the magic trick and get the points they needed. Some quarterbacks are pretty good at it, such as Tom Brady, who went 5-for-11 (46%), or Drew Brees, who went 3-for-6 (50%). Only Patrick Mahomes, though, 7-for-7, or perfect, in those dire situations.”

[notacon]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

It's mostly coaching. Mahomes is a great QB but switch him and Josh and Josh is hoisting his 3rd Lombardi.

I TOTALLY disagree.

I see it the other way.

Switch him and Josh and Mahomes is STILL hoisting his 3rd Lombardi, but for the Buffalo Bills instead.

[sahlensguy]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

Here is another mind boggling fact that illustrates THE difference is Patrick Mahomes from Go Long's Mailbag Column....

JA has yet to have a 4th qtr comeback or game winning drive in the playoffs.

[Mad Max]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

JA has yet to have a 4th qtr comeback or game winning drive in the playoffs.

To be fair, Mahomes has Butker and Brady had Vinatieri…two of the clutchest kickers in NFL history. We have a decidedly anti-clutch keeker.

[sahlensguy]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

To be fair, Mahomes has Butker and Brady had Vinatieri…two of the clutchest kickers in NFL history. We have a decidedly anti-clutch keeker.

Add in 0-5 in overtime games. The problem goes way beyond a kicker.

[Mace]

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And I'm sorry, but a big part of that is the lame AFC West, which has essentially been a one-horse pony since the merger.

I'll die on that hill, because that's a big advantage when it comes to playoff seeding and tiebreakers.

Well don't die on that hill...Andrew Luck"s entire perception of success was 24-7 in a weak division. He was 53-33 career...so outside the division he was 29-26 and made it to one conference championship.

Mahomes is 30-5 division....74-22 total....outside the division 44-17.

Allen is 23-11 division...63-21 total....outside 40-20.

Two of those guys have one conference championship appearance...one has multiple super bowl titles.

If Harbaugh is successful in San Diego.....we just have another evolving brick wall in front of us to add to the chiefs,Bengals,and ravens with others coming up behind while we're still working on a passing game and crowing about our running game,trying to replace our defense,, on the 8th year of our process to hopefully sniff another conference championship appearance.

Dunno....this is not looking good to me.

[Oaf]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

Josh Allen is plenty good enough to beat KC - we've seen it three regular seasons in a row. KC was the better team in BUF last month, so they won. They'll continue to do so unless we make gains via drafting and coaching, which is fairly unlikely. Assuming we don't, we'll just have to hope for a close game that we pull out at the end. Happens all the time, including our KC reg season games.

[Goobylal]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

I TOTALLY disagree.

I see it the other way.

Switch him and Josh and Mahomes is STILL hoisting his 3rd Lombardi, but for the Buffalo Bills instead.

No one would take any of the Bills' OC's during Josh's time over Reid or McD over Spagnuolo.

[notacon]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

No one would take any of the Bills' OC's during Josh's time over Reid or McD over Spagnuolo.

Bullcrap.

Reid could not win a SB with McNabb, or Alex Smith....both stints with stellar rosters. 21 years of HC and no SB wins UNTIL Mahomes came along.

[notacon]

Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

Josh Allen is plenty good enough to beat KC - we've seen it three regular seasons in a row. KC was the better team in BUF last month, so they won. They'll continue to do so unless we make gains via drafting and coaching, which is fairly unlikely. Assuming we don't, we'll just have to hope for a close game that we pull out at the end. Happens all the time, including our KC reg season games.

NOPE!!!!

Buffalo was the better team than KC "last month", but Mahomes was the better QB in the clutch than Josh. It's been that way since both QB's came into the league.


That does not mean that Josh will not rise to the occasion in the future.