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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by Turf View Post
    Yeah but it's also Reid. If the Bills had Reid and the Chiefs McD you could flip the script.

    To an extent.

    I'd say 90% Mahomes...10% Reid.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by DetoxTent View Post
    Much of why that is is because Reid has made Mahomes more composed than Allen. It's not just "wiring."
    Seriously?!?!? What absurd psychobabble. I mean really, really silly.

    Reid had 21 years of head coaching. Two superior QB's in McNabb and Alex Smith.

    Mahomes is (at least according to your superior psychoanalysis of NFL QB's ) "more composed" because it's what makes Mahomes, Mahomes.

    I don't even buy the idea that he's "more composed" than Josh Allen. He makes better decision and has better instincts. That has little to do with who the HC is.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    I believe Josh would be insanely successful in Andy's offense.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Another rating, grades, whatever.

    I think we all know Allen is one of the top QBs in NFL. At this point what matters is ... rings. It is a little unfair in a 22 starters sport, but it is as real as there ever is. Lionel Messi knew. Carl Malone knew, too.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
    Another rating, grades, whatever.

    I think we all know Allen is one of the top QBs in NFL. At this point what matters is ... rings. It is a little unfair in a 22 starters sport, but it is as real as there ever is. Lionel Messi knew. Carl Malone knew, too.
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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
    Another rating, grades, whatever.

    I think we all know Allen is one of the top QBs in NFL. At this point what matters is ... rings. It is a little unfair in a 22 starters sport, but it is as real as there ever is. Lionel Messi knew. Carl Malone knew, too.
    you just said it all, it takes 22 men to play the game, we have the best position finally fixed now fixed around him and that includes coaching.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by cas22 View Post
    you just said it all, it takes 22 men to play the game, we have the best position finally fixed now fixed around him and that includes coaching.
    There are less talented QBs than Josh with more poise. JA ain't all that...not a hater

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    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    There are less talented QBs than Josh with more poise. JA ain't all that...not a hater
    name one!

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by cas22 View Post
    name one!
    Brock Purdy

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    Brock Purdy
    give me a break. Purdy isn't the main stay in that offense, how many QBs has Shanahan had that have looked good? Jimmy G went to a superbowl in this offense minus McCaffery. and put Purdy in Buffao he would be out of the league.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by cas22 View Post
    give me a break. Purdy isn't the main stay in that offense, how many QBs has Shanahan had that have looked good? Jimmy G went to a superbowl in this offense minus McCaffery. and put Purdy in Buffao he would be out of the league.
    If Purdy and Allen had equal physical ability, Purdy would be the better QB. That was the point.

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    It's mostly coaching. Mahomes is a great QB but switch him and Josh and Josh is hoisting his 3rd Lombardi.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    Talent didn't cause us to lose 13 seconds.

    Talent didn't cause our collapse after the 2 minute warning.

    The difference is that they have the "it" factor, relatively speaking.
    Josh in fact beat Mahoney that game.
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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by Turf View Post
    Josh in fact beat Mahoney that game.
    That's right (just not in the final score)

    When neither McD nor Allen want to address their crunch time inadequacies, they'll never learn.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    That's right (just not in the final score)

    When neither McD nor Allen want to address their crunch time inadequacies, they'll never learn.
    IMO neither task is insurmountable.

    I see McD evolving, now he’s still a cromag not quite human but he’s getting there.

    Josh needs to channel the chill of guys like Montana/Brady/Brees and not do stupid AVOIDABLE ish throughout the courier of entire games. (People too often trumpet his end of game or complete game heroics while ignoring the egregious mistakes he made in those games that made heroics necessary in the first place).

    If he can avoid the easily avoidable mistake the Bills will hoist.

    For example he single-handedly lost us the jets and broncos games with completely idiotic decisions. We win those games and we probably win the AFC and avoid playing in the costly WC game where those key injuries occurred which then likely cost us the Division game and…

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
    IMO neither task is insurmountable.

    I see McD evolving, now he’s still a cromag not quite human but he’s getting there.

    Josh needs to channel the chill of guys like Montana/Brady/Brees and not do stupid AVOIDABLE ish throughout the courier of entire games. (People too often trumpet his end of game or complete game heroics while ignoring the egregious mistakes he made in those games that made heroics necessary in the first place).

    If he can avoid the easily avoidable mistake the Bills will hoist.

    For example he single-handedly lost us the jets and broncos games with completely idiotic decisions. We win those games and we probably win the AFC and avoid playing in the costly WC game where those key injuries occurred which then likely cost us the Division game and…
    We'll see.

    Did you know that Allen doesn't have a single 4th quarter comeback or game winning drive in the post season? Or that Josh has yet to win a single game in OT?

    McD/Allen has a longer way to go before hoisting than it appears on paper, imo.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    We'll see.

    Did you know that Allen doesn't have a single 4th quarter comeback or game winning drive in the post season? Or that Josh has yet to win a single game in OT?

    McD/Allen has a longer way to go before hoisting than it appears on paper, imo.
    Let’s what happens when they get him a WR and Brady gets a full off season of integration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
    Let’s what happens when they get him a WR and Brady gets a full off season of integration.
    Yep, that's all we can do.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    What will happen at the WR position is intriguing. Like they could theoretically neglect the WR position, again, and still acquire multiple WRs. It would be a good thing having a guy on a rookie contract lining up on the outside if he can fill the shoes ... but that is a big ask. Shakir might really be able to do a lot. I still would not argue about seeing slot by committee with the guys we have. Shakir, Diggs, Kincaid, Cook ... send them all down through the slot in a rotation. Yeah baby. This WR we are going to add to the mix could be a huge piece or something we don't get the value out of we need.

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    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    What will happen at the WR position is intriguing. Like they could theoretically neglect the WR position, again, and still acquire multiple WRs. It would be a good thing having a guy on a rookie contract lining up on the outside if he can fill the shoes ... but that is a big ask. Shakir might really be able to do a lot. I still would not argue about seeing slot by committee with the guys we have. Shakir, Diggs, Kincaid, Cook ... send them all down through the slot in a rotation. Yeah baby. This WR we are going to add to the mix could be a huge piece or something we don't get the value out of we need.
    They haven't neglected the WR yet. Since 2000, when they traded for Diggs, they were never drafting a WR high to take targets away from Diggs and make him unhappy. Now that it appears age is catching up to him, that thinking will change.

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