DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

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  • notacon
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    • Aug 2012
    • 32486

    #61
    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

    Originally posted by Turf View Post
    Yeah but it's also Reid. If the Bills had Reid and the Chiefs McD you could flip the script.

    To an extent.

    I'd say 90% Mahomes...10% Reid.

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    • notacon
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      • Aug 2012
      • 32486

      #62
      Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

      Originally posted by DetoxTent View Post
      Much of why that is is because Reid has made Mahomes more composed than Allen. It's not just "wiring."
      Seriously?!?!? What absurd psychobabble. I mean really, really silly.

      Reid had 21 years of head coaching. Two superior QB's in McNabb and Alex Smith.

      Mahomes is (at least according to your superior psychoanalysis of NFL QB's ) "more composed" because it's what makes Mahomes, Mahomes.

      I don't even buy the idea that he's "more composed" than Josh Allen. He makes better decision and has better instincts. That has little to do with who the HC is.

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      • cas22
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        • Jul 2005
        • 240

        #63
        Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

        Originally posted by Woodman View Post
        I believe Josh would be insanely successful in Andy's offense.

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        • ghz in pittsburgh
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          • Aug 2004
          • 5732

          #64
          Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

          Another rating, grades, whatever.

          I think we all know Allen is one of the top QBs in NFL. At this point what matters is ... rings. It is a little unfair in a 22 starters sport, but it is as real as there ever is. Lionel Messi knew. Carl Malone knew, too.

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          • sahlensguy
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            • Mar 2015
            • 13042

            #65
            Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

            Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
            Another rating, grades, whatever.

            I think we all know Allen is one of the top QBs in NFL. At this point what matters is ... rings. It is a little unfair in a 22 starters sport, but it is as real as there ever is. Lionel Messi knew. Carl Malone knew, too.
            "The Mailman dont deliver on Sunday" ~ Scottie Pippen

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            • cas22
              Registered User
              • Jul 2005
              • 240

              #66
              Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

              Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
              Another rating, grades, whatever.

              I think we all know Allen is one of the top QBs in NFL. At this point what matters is ... rings. It is a little unfair in a 22 starters sport, but it is as real as there ever is. Lionel Messi knew. Carl Malone knew, too.
              you just said it all, it takes 22 men to play the game, we have the best position finally fixed now fixed around him and that includes coaching.

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              • sahlensguy
                Registered User
                • Mar 2015
                • 13042

                #67
                Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                Originally posted by cas22 View Post
                you just said it all, it takes 22 men to play the game, we have the best position finally fixed now fixed around him and that includes coaching.
                There are less talented QBs than Josh with more poise. JA ain't all that...not a hater

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                • cas22
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 240

                  #68
                  Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                  Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                  There are less talented QBs than Josh with more poise. JA ain't all that...not a hater
                  name one!

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                  • sahlensguy
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 13042

                    #69
                    Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                    Originally posted by cas22 View Post
                    name one!
                    Brock Purdy

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                    • cas22
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 240

                      #70
                      Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                      Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                      Brock Purdy
                      give me a break. Purdy isn't the main stay in that offense, how many QBs has Shanahan had that have looked good? Jimmy G went to a superbowl in this offense minus McCaffery. and put Purdy in Buffao he would be out of the league.

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                      • sahlensguy
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 13042

                        #71
                        Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                        Originally posted by cas22 View Post
                        give me a break. Purdy isn't the main stay in that offense, how many QBs has Shanahan had that have looked good? Jimmy G went to a superbowl in this offense minus McCaffery. and put Purdy in Buffao he would be out of the league.
                        If Purdy and Allen had equal physical ability, Purdy would be the better QB. That was the point.

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                        • Goobylal
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 19264

                          #72
                          Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                          It's mostly coaching. Mahomes is a great QB but switch him and Josh and Josh is hoisting his 3rd Lombardi.

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                          • Turf
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8346

                            #73
                            Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                            Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                            Talent didn't cause us to lose 13 seconds.

                            Talent didn't cause our collapse after the 2 minute warning.

                            The difference is that they have the "it" factor, relatively speaking.
                            Josh in fact beat Mahoney that game.
                            Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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                            • sahlensguy
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 13042

                              #74
                              Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                              Originally posted by Turf View Post
                              Josh in fact beat Mahoney that game.
                              That's right (just not in the final score)

                              When neither McD nor Allen want to address their crunch time inadequacies, they'll never learn.

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                              • Mad Max
                                Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 6218

                                #75
                                Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..

                                Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                                That's right (just not in the final score)

                                When neither McD nor Allen want to address their crunch time inadequacies, they'll never learn.
                                IMO neither task is insurmountable.

                                I see McD evolving, now he’s still a cromag not quite human but he’s getting there.

                                Josh needs to channel the chill of guys like Montana/Brady/Brees and not do stupid AVOIDABLE ish throughout the courier of entire games. (People too often trumpet his end of game or complete game heroics while ignoring the egregious mistakes he made in those games that made heroics necessary in the first place).

                                If he can avoid the easily avoidable mistake the Bills will hoist.

                                For example he single-handedly lost us the jets and broncos games with completely idiotic decisions. We win those games and we probably win the AFC and avoid playing in the costly WC game where those key injuries occurred which then likely cost us the Division game and…

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