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  • Mace
    Haha...yeah you think so ?
    • Mar 2013
    • 20315

    #31
    Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

    We're in the 8th year of a program, 7 with Josh Allen, this isn't fresh anymore. They're still working on receivers and a passing offense after just coming up with an ol and a legitimate threat at rb.

    They're not a hungry team on fire with enthusiasm...a motivational coach works best with young guys and we patch yearly with vets. They're placid...when not if reflects their yearly blown games....we'll be fine next week or the week after...or the week after.... coach says so.

    McD is going to rah rah. I'm tired of it. His players are comfortable in their happy underachiever space because there is always maybe if you just believe and coast along because your boss says it's all dandy.

    No.... it's not all dandy, we're losing ground and McD needs to step up his clapping and lip service. Imho.

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    • Typ0
      honey pie
      • Jul 2002
      • 32593

      #32
      Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

      Originally posted by Mace View Post

      McD is going to rah rah. I'm tired of it. His players are comfortable in their happy underachiever space because there is always maybe if you just believe and coast along because your boss says it's all dandy.
      The effects of that are culturally profound! Nice job putting that into words. It's the "Process" they are in they need to "Trust". It's like the Jews trusting the Gestapo and getting onto the train. Our guys don't need to worry about a lot of **** as long as they follow McDermott's process. That is all that really matters.

      This can work in a lot of environments not sure about the NFL where you are better off having pissed off intense freaks running the coach over than someone who is so humble the only person they are going to run over is themselves.

      But he gets along great with his guys I'm sure he does.

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      • ghz in pittsburgh
        Registered User
        • Aug 2004
        • 5861

        #33
        Re: Sean McDermott: It�s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

        Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
        No not really. Mostly to yourself. It effects how you see everything because the context is simply what you are doing and how you can grow.

        Diggs goes out for a cross route and Allen throws the ball 2 feet short. Diggs response is to ask himself what HE could have done to help that play succeed NOT worry about that being on Josh Allen.

        It is not about fault and/or who is responsible. It simply is the mentality I am very focused on ME and what I need to do to keep growing.

        It NEVER happens when people don't feel emotionally safe. There is no emotional safety when there is no trust.

        I would even say there are things about being in the NFL that destroy the emotional safety so it's the idea of the growth mindset is fundamentally flawed in the NFL. Just having the media be the way they are destroys the growth mindset in some ways.

        Do something else not something that is properly aligned with what you are trying to achieve and can support it not destroy it!
        My point is there is a lot of honesty, accountability, and transparency BEHIND the door. Guys being called out by coaches, by each other. The plays that happened the past Sunday is played to everyone more than you know. They know what is the call from the coaches, they know what happened, who did what. It is pretty much black and white for everyone involved, coaches included. But to us fans, reporters, they lie, maybe white lies. That's the context.

        It happens in all line of business as well, different levels. Because there is something called trade secret.

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        • sahlensguy
          Registered User
          • Mar 2015
          • 13479

          #34
          Re: Sean McDermott: It�s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

          Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
          My point is there is a lot of honesty, accountability, and transparency BEHIND the door. Guys being called out by coaches, by each other. The plays that happened the past Sunday is played to everyone more than you know. They know what is the call from the coaches, they know what happened, who did what. It is pretty much black and white for everyone involved, coaches included. But to us fans, reporters, they lie, maybe white lies. That's the context.

          It happens in all line of business as well, different levels. Because there is something called trade secret.
          And you know what that all leads to, right?

          Arrogance

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          • ghz in pittsburgh
            Registered User
            • Aug 2004
            • 5861

            #35
            Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

            Like it or not, a football team, pretty much like a business, is a dictatorship, not a democracy like a government. The holy concept of honesty, accountability, and transparency lives from a rank to the next chain of command, having nothing to do with the public or fans. Thus the ultimate responsibility goes to the ownership. If the ownership sees his subordinates having the honesty, accountability, and transparency, that's the end of it. If the ownership judgement is not up to par, the whole organization is in trouble. In an open market economy, that organization would fold quickly and be replaced by a capable one. But NFL is not exactly open market - teams like the Bills with 17 years draught still survived.

            Don't for a minute think Terry Pegula is hands off. When he purchased team, he consulted a lot of people. Bill Polian suggested him to hire a football czar to oversee football operations. Pegula didn't go for that, instead he has HC and GM report to him directly. He wants to know what is going on. And McDermott is not his first hire either.

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            • sahlensguy
              Registered User
              • Mar 2015
              • 13479

              #36
              Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

              Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
              Like it or not, a football team, pretty much like a business, is a dictatorship, not a democracy like a government. The holy concept of honesty, accountability, and transparency lives from a rank to the next chain of command, having nothing to do with the public or fans. Thus the ultimate responsibility goes to the ownership. If the ownership sees his subordinates having the honesty, accountability, and transparency, that's the end of it. If the ownership judgement is not up to par, the whole organization is in trouble. In an open market economy, that organization would fold quickly and be replaced by a capable one. But NFL is not exactly open market - teams like the Bills with 17 years draught still survived.

              Don't for a minute think Terry Pegula is hands off. When he purchased team, he consulted a lot of people. Bill Polian suggested him to hire a football czar to oversee football operations. Pegula didn't go for that, instead he has HC and GM report to him directly. He wants to know what is going on. And McDermott is not his first hire either.
              I'm not expecting honesty. But dont't be hypocritical. Don't preach hungry and humble and then act entitled and arrogant.

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              • notacon
                Registered User
                • Aug 2012
                • 33079

                #37
                Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                I have confidence (although not necessarily "full" confidence) in Sean McDermott as head coach of the Buffalo Bills.

                The fans that DO NOT don't matter very much because......


                The ONLY person's opinion that matters, Terry Pegula, is 100% McD and he has his full support and has backed that up with a contract through 2027.

                Plus, as we found out today with the NFLPA's annual "report card" of players, the BILLS PLAYERS have full confidence in McD as coach....and the players love ownership.

                McD gets an "A" grade from the players.

                Pegula gets an "A-" grade from the players.

                Interestingly, KC players give Reid an "A+", but gave ownership an "F-"....32nd in the NFL. Ouch!!!

                Basically, right now, the belly aching from the "fans" about McD is whistling in the wind.

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                • Mad Max
                  Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 6698

                  #38
                  Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                  Originally posted by notacon View Post
                  I have confidence (although not necessarily "full" confidence) in Sean McDermott as head coach of the Buffalo Bills.

                  The fans that DO NOT don't matter very much because......


                  The ONLY person's opinion that matters, Terry Pegula, is 100% McD and he has his full support and has backed that up with a contract through 2027.

                  Plus, as we found out today with the NFLPA's annual "report card" of players, the BILLS PLAYERS have full confidence in McD as coach....and the players love ownership.

                  McD gets an "A" grade from the players.

                  Pegula gets an "A-" grade from the players.

                  Interestingly, KC players give Reid an "A+", but gave ownership an "F-"....32nd in the NFL. Ouch!!!

                  Basically, right now, the belly aching from the "fans" about McD is whistling in the wind.
                  Correct. Like it or not Opie is our head coach in 2024 so why people hand-wring wishing it weren’t so I don’t understand.

                  He also absolutely is on a timer which the hand-wringers refuse to believe. I personally don’t think he has more than one more collapse left.

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                  • jamze132
                    Don’t hate…
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 29401

                    #39
                    Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                    Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                    It has nothing to do with anyone's mentality.

                    We know there are two teams in the conference that we simply can't beat in the playoffs. We don't have the cap space to close the talent gap between us and them. There are several other teams that are gaining on us and either already have or are about to surpass us. And you're using the exception to prove the rule. Maybe a few teams that aren't as good as us won a SB. But there are a LOT more examples of teams as good or better than us that never won a SB.

                    So, believe whatever you want but it's not the reality of the situation.
                    You can’t say we can’t beat them. If KCs defense was in the position ours was in, we’d probably have won. If Hamlin didn’t die and come back to life, maybe the team wouldn’t have been so emotionally drained. Too many variables each season.

                    KC got lucky…they beat the Bills who had no LBs. They beat the Ravens who stopped running the ball like they had for 18 games. They beat the 49ers who inexplicably stopped giving the ball to McCaffery in the 3rd quarter.

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                    • Typ0
                      honey pie
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 32593

                      #40
                      Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                      Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
                      You can’t say we can’t beat them. If KCs defense was in the position ours was in, we’d probably have won. If Hamlin didn’t die and come back to life, maybe the team wouldn’t have been so emotionally drained. Too many variables each season.

                      KC got lucky…they beat the Bills who had no LBs. They beat the Ravens who stopped running the ball like they had for 18 games. They beat the 49ers who inexplicably stopped giving the ball to McCaffery in the 3rd quarter.
                      They did not get lucky they outcoached everyone and played smarter football. We don't prepare for that under McDermott how many times do you have to see the consequences?

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                      • jamze132
                        Don’t hate…
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 29401

                        #41
                        Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                        Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                        They did not get lucky they outcoached everyone and played smarter football. We don't prepare for that under McDermott how many times do you have to see the consequences?
                        I’ll not take anything away from KC…they took full advantage of injuries and ineptitude. Doesn’t mean we can’t beat them with a healthy roster, which is my point.

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                        • Typ0
                          honey pie
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 32593

                          #42
                          Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                          Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
                          I’ll not take anything away from KC…they took full advantage of injuries and ineptitude. Doesn’t mean we can’t beat them with a healthy roster, which is my point.
                          The health of the roster has nothing to do with it which is my point. The bottom line is, for whatever reason, when it really matters and the pressure is really on, our team can't think as fast as other teams and they get it handed to them.

                          Welcome to the Growth Mindset in the NFL. There isn't time for the better human **** that takes too much to play out in the NFL.

                          People are fooled by McDermott because he's really smart and a great coach ... but his culture bogs them down at the worst possible moments. McDermott is a cerebral defensive guru whose only real downfall is his timing is bad...

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                          • Woodman
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 65988

                            #43
                            Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                            Originally posted by notacon View Post
                            The full interview and article that NBC Sports refers to is from (where else...the best sports media source) The Athletic, by Tim Graham. It is a fantastic article....


                            Undeterred in Super Bowl pursuit, Bills coach Sean McDermott says “when, not if”

                            “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                            "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                            Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                            • Woodman
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 65988

                              #44
                              Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                              Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                              And a big problem he has is being submersed in believing his own narcissistic bull**** and not making adjustments. Same ole same ole will get the same results .... so I say it remains an "IF".
                              Everything is "IF" really.

                              “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                              "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                              Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                              • Woodman
                                Legendary Zoner
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 65988

                                #45
                                Re: Sean McDermott: It’s a matter of when, not if, we win a Super Bowl

                                Originally posted by Mad Max View Post
                                I’m not the guys biggest supporter but don’t understand the hate on this comment. You gotta believe before you achieve.

                                Also he’s now just bet his reputation. Takes courage and I commend him for it.
                                This is key!

                                “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                                "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                                Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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