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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    I'll be honest, I thought the first move would be to restructure Josh Allen, then pick your targets from there.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    I'll be honest, I thought the first move would be to restructure Josh Allen, then pick your targets from there.
    I think they are probably doing everything else first, so they can gauge how much of a restructure they need to do with Josh.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    As I said in another thread...."The only surprise is Mitch Morse. He will be missed but probably best to get this over with now, to make moving younger and setting up for success both TODAY and going forward.

    The "Purge" will not effect competitiveness in any substantial manner.

    With (soon to be after compensatory 3rd round pick is awarded) eleven draft picks and money to spend on mid level free agents......Beane keeps on showing why he is such a smart GM."

    Morse is a loss. But last year's draft steal of Torrance in the 2nd round and McGovern showing he has a lot left and both tackles solid starters (especially Spencer Brown improving substantially after many here were ready to bury him) mitigates the loss.

    Developing young talent is the way forward.

    It's going to take months for Beane's (and McD's....Beane does not make these moves in a vacuum) plan to unfold. FA first and then the draft.

    As usual, I'm bullish on the Bills competitiveness. With Josh Allen every season is a possible Super Bowl year.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    As I said in another thread...."The only surprise is Mitch Morse. He will be missed but probably best to get this over with now, to make moving younger and setting up for success both TODAY and going forward.

    The "Purge" will not effect competitiveness in any substantial manner.

    With (soon to be after compensatory 3rd round pick is awarded) eleven draft picks and money to spend on mid level free agents......Beane keeps on showing why he is such a smart GM."

    Morse is a loss. But last year's draft steal of Torrance in the 2nd round and McGovern showing he has a lot left and both tackles solid starters (especially Spencer Brown improving substantially after many here were ready to bury him) mitigates the loss.

    Developing young talent is the way forward.

    It's going to take months for Beane's (and McD's....Beane does not make these moves in a vacuum) plan to unfold. FA first and then the draft.

    As usual, I'm bullish on the Bills competitiveness. With Josh Allen every season is a possible Super Bowl year.
    I mean, Josh has been the QB for 6 years and has won 0 SB's. It takes more than just him.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Bills got younger today. It’s like if the Zone dumped Woody, Notty , Mace, and Lecter. The freaking kids would rule this place.

    i of course would be restructured and although Lecter isn’t old… but he can stick it.



    Except you are not one of the "freaking kids" and as you realized on your last birthday, you were "officially in the "old farts" club of us 60 year olds on the downside of life"

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I mean, Josh has been the QB for 6 years and has won 0 SB's. It takes more than just him.
    He's the key .... nobody would be dumb enough to refute that.


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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I mean, Josh has been the QB for 6 years and has won 0 SB's. It takes more than just him.
    John Elway had been the QB for 14 years and had won 0 SB's.

    Peyton Manning had been the QB for 8 years and had won 0 SB's.

    Drew Brees had been the QB for 8 years and had won 0 SB's.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Rumor has it McGovern is switched to center... hasn't played it since college...Edwards goes to lg.

    Morse is the only center besides Bates, Allen has ever worked with...finally got a decent year from the ol in front of the franchise gem and they're going to pork around with it?

    Center is the qb of the ol.... it's not plug and play and gravy.

    Whatever.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    John Elway had been the QB for 14 years and had won 0 SB's.

    Peyton Manning had been the QB for 8 years and had won 0 SB's.

    Drew Brees had been the QB for 8 years and had won 0 SB's.
    Because they needed the right talent around them.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Rumor has it McGovern is switched to center... hasn't played it since college...Edwards goes to lg.

    Morse is the only center besides Bates, Allen has ever worked with...finally got a decent year from the ol in front of the franchise gem and they're going to pork around with it?

    Center is the qb of the ol.... it's not plug and play and gravy.

    Whatever.
    I highly doubt the plan is for McGovern to just step in and play Center, and putting a relatively unknown at LG.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post



    Except you are not one of the "freaking kids" and as you realized on your last birthday, you were "officially in the "old farts" club of us 60 year olds on the downside of life"
    I’m like a long snapper. I play 10 or so snaps a game. Lo mileage.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Because they needed the right talent around them.
    Huh???

    The talent around a QB changes every single year.

    It takes a certain amount of luck and a few plays here and there to go your way.

    The point is that your statement that "Josh has been the QB for 6 years and has won 0 SB's." is dumb.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    Huh???

    The talent around a QB changes every single year.

    It takes a certain amount of luck and a few plays here and there to go your way.

    The point is that your statement that "Josh has been the QB for 6 years and has won 0 SB's." is dumb.
    It's not dumb because it was in response to your comments about every year being a possible SB year because we have Josh. It's simply not true. The QB is the biggest piece but he can't do it alone and the last 6 years prove that.

    We were already behind KC, Cincy and probably a few other teams, and now we're worse than we were a few weeks ago. We aren't closing the talent gap. We're going in the wrong direction.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    McGovern to center Edwards to LG.
    our depth ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5BYiJ6NOgA

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    John Elway had been the QB for 14 years and had won 0 SB's.
    Elway won it after he got TD to take the pressure off him.

    Lets hope our improved run game has the same effect with Josh.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    McGovern to center Edwards to LG.
    Jesus Christ.

    They finally have a unit where guys are playing where they are supposed to be and came out completely healthy and moderately successful and it's "Well, hell, we can't have that let's **** things up and start switching them around again".

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    ^Didn't see Mace's post before I ranted. My bad, brother.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian'eh! View Post
    Do you mean draft?

    because we definitely need 3 safeties at this point. Including both starters.
    From wherever, I was just referring to starting spots in general that need to be filled.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    It's not dumb because it was in response to your comments about every year being a possible SB year because we have Josh. It's simply not true. The QB is the biggest piece but he can't do it alone and the last 6 years prove that.

    We were already behind KC, Cincy and probably a few other teams, and now we're worse than we were a few weeks ago. We aren't closing the talent gap. We're going in the wrong direction.
    Nope. It's dumb.

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    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Definitely need a center and at least one starting-caliber safety.
    I agree, they say there gonna move McGovern to center which i think is stupid, you do that you have 2 position changes instead of 1.

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