So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

[Woodman]

Beane knew that the team was going to be well over the cap in 2024. I think that the plan all along was to move McGovern to center (possibly his most natural position) after 2023 for cost savings. He did play center in college and took some snaps there for Dallas as well. Morse is on the wrong side of 30 and has a history of concussions - one more and he might be done. Plus, Edwards seems to be a good fit at guard since the running game is being re-established.

Excellent post!

[Woodman]

Now you’re just not making sense. There are at least 3 teams in the AFC alone that had better rosters than us before all the cap cuts.

We made the correct cuts.

[Woodman]

With Beane everything is systematic. Does everything he does work? Of course not, but at least there’s a plan and those plans have worked to the tune of four straight division titles.

Yes they have.

[OpIv37]

We made the correct cuts.

I understand the cuts. But this isn’t about whether or not the cuts are correct. It’s about the state of the product on the field after the cuts.

[Woodman]

I understand the cuts. But this isn’t about whether or not the cuts are correct. It’s about the state of the product on the field after the cuts.

You believe you know more than the rest of us?

[OpIv37]

You believe you know more than the rest of us?

We lost two starters, arguably 3 if you count White, and we have no cap space to replace them

It doesn’t matter what I believe. Facts are facts.

[Woodman]

We lost two starters, arguably 3 if you count White, and we have no cap space to replace them

It doesn’t matter what I believe. Facts are facts.

wrong 100%

[OpIv37]

wrong 100%

Um no. It is literally a 100% objective fact.

[Woodman]

Um no. It is literally a 100% objective fact.

laughable nothing about it is objective ..... to be taken seriously be objective.

every move was correct and disqualifies any of them as far as the team is concerned as starters.

[OpIv37]

laughable nothing about it is objective ..... to be taken seriously be objective.

every move was correct and disqualifies any of them as far as the team is concerned as starters.

Whether or not the moves were correct is a subjective opinion.

We lost 2, arguably 3 starters. That is objective fact. We have no cap space. That is objective fact.

[Woodman]

Whether or not the moves were correct is a subjective opinion.

We lost 2, arguably 3 starters. That is objective fact. We have no cap space. That is objective fact.

They lost no starters they lost former starters ..... moving on and up ....... that's being objective and that's fact ....... in other words the way it is ....... the proverbial bottom line.

[jamze132]

We lost two starters…Poyer or Morse. And we’re gaining one in Milano.

Can’t count White since he pretty much missed another season.

[Woodman]

And we’re gaining one in Milano.

Can’t count White since he pretty much missed another season.

This is accurate of course.

[sukie]

Were Hyde and Poyer really starting caliber or were they starters mostly out of tenure? We lost a starter in Edmunds and he was easily replaced by a nobody non starter inexperienced question mark. That inserted body just had an awesome season as a starter.

The term starter is just a designation some times.

[TacklingDummy]

It is time for new starters at saftey, center, WR, Punter, kick holder, and a few other positions.

[OpIv37]

Were Hyde and Poyer really starting caliber or were they starters mostly out of tenure? We lost a starter in Edmunds and he was easily replaced by a nobody non starter inexperienced question mark. That inserted body just had an awesome season as a starter.

The term starter is just a designation some times.

As of right now, we have no one on the roster equal to or better than Poyer or Morse. The team is objectively worse. And we have no cap space to replace them.

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It is time for new starters at saftey, center, WR, Punter, kick holder, and a few other positions.

Which isn’t possible with the current cap situation.

[sukie]

So you are saying the Bills will not field a complete team because at this moment they have no one on the roster to replace them and no cap space.

see how silly a snap shot in time projected forward looks? Stop doing that…

[OpIv37]

So you are saying the Bills will not field a complete team because at this moment they have no one on the roster to replace them and no cap space.

see how silly a snap shot in time projected forward looks? Stop doing that…

I’m saying we need to get better to compete with teams like the Chiefs. As of right now, we have gotten worse and we don’t have the cap space to get better.

Of course there will be a complete team. The problem is the quality of said team. We have to make up for the existing talent gap between us and the Chiefs AND compensate for the loss of multiple starters with no cap space.

[sukie]

Perhaps our old safeties were the gap of which you speak. Just sayin. Chiefs had Morse and replaced him without issue or tear shed.

of course you don’t see 11-6 or better next season. Naturally no AFC East either.

[OpIv37]

Perhaps our old safeties were the gap of which you speak. Just sayin. Chiefs had Morse and replaced him without issue or tear shed.

of course you don’t see 11-6 or better next season. Naturally no AFC East either.

Ok. Say our old safeties were the problem. How do we get better ones with no cap space? That’s the issue here.